Front Ranger Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 That was 2008. Whether or not PDX's 62/48 on 8/31 will be surpassed with this one, just two and a half weeks later, is yet to be seen! You're thinking of a different event than him. There actually was a fairly beefy trough Labor Day weekend 2009. The 2008 event was definitely impressive, and yielded one very impressive day at PDX, but wasn't it more of a clipper-type deal? Not very wet, definitely not a massive trough like this one parking itself over the region for a few days. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 That was 2008. Whether or not PDX's 62/48 on 8/31 will be surpassed with this one, just two and a half weeks later, is yet to be seen! I am pretty sure there was one in 2009 too. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Late September 2007 was nice. Very similar to late Sep 2013. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I am pretty sure there was one in 2009 too.That one wasn't nearly as impressive. At least down here. 68/57 and 69/58 on September 5th/6th. Today was colder and the trough hasn't even technically arrived yet. 8/31/08 on the other hand was easily the coldest day this century in either July or August at PDX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Eugene still has an air quality alert from smoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 It's looking like this trough could be the most impressive September trough for the PNW since 2013. However, that trough came at the end of the month. You'd probably have to go back to 2004 to find one this cold that occurred before the last week of the month. Mid-September 2006 was nice. Snowed down to Government Camp, but it didn't stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Eugene still has an air quality alert from smoke.The air quality monitoring system appears to be broken. I can't detect any residual smokes. http://www.lrapa.org/216/Todays-Current-Air-Quality In case it starts working again, it currently says, "Service Temporarily Unavailable!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 00z ECMWF starts dumping snow across the high latitudes. The projected Eurasian snowfalls are well ahead of schedule and would assist in building the Siberian High. http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww243/phillywillie/Mobile%20Uploads/1515D0E4-A49B-4CC2-9BBF-4AD4918AAD9E_zpszerjtaf1.png 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Greenland actually ran a positive mass balance anomaly for the 2017 melt year, thanks to a cold summer and excesssive snowfall. Looks like new season is picking right up where the old one left off, with record snows already occurring. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Does that model take into account falling precipitation though? From what I understand it only uses upper air analysis guidence. Hard to imagine the smoke particles making it that far east when you have widespread falling precipitation. Seems like the particles would be surpressed to areas closer to the fires. The smoke is indeed back this morning in the Flathead Valley... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Getting a nice soaking rain this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 The smoke is indeed back this morning in the Flathead Valley... The smoke is indeed back this morning in the Flathead Valley... Uhhh, that's rain. Stratiform rain. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=mso&sid=JETM8&num=72&raw=0 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Uhhh, that's rain. Stratiform rain. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=mso&sid=JETM8&num=72&raw=0 Air quality is not great in Idaho and Montana this morning... http://wasmoke.blogspot.com/p/national-interagency-fire-information.html Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Air quality is not great in Idaho and Montana this morning... http://wasmoke.blogspot.com/p/national-interagency-fire-information.html Looks real smoky in Kalispell as well... Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Models have slowly been pushing back the warm up coming after the trough. The EPS doesn't show SEA going above normal until day 10. The GFS ensembles are also slower to warm things up now than they were a couple days ago. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Air quality is not great in Idaho and Montana this morning... http://wasmoke.blogspot.com/p/national-interagency-fire-information.htmlanything below Unhealthy is good in my book after this summer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I'm back! I went somewhere else to get my cold fix, you guys should try it! I was in Calgary over the weekend. When I landed in Calgary, the air was noticeably more nippy than here. The temps in the morning dropped below 32F, and when I went on a hike, there was fresh snow on the ground. Some people here could use this experience to freshen things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Models have slowly been pushing back the warm up coming after the trough. The EPS doesn't show SEA going above normal until day 10. The GFS ensembles are also slower to warm things up now than they were a couple days ago. Looks like perfect fall weather actually... starting Thursday it should be partly to mostly sunny and pleasant for an extended period of time. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Looks like perfect fall weather actually... starting Thursday it should be partly to mostly sunny and pleasant for an extended period of time. Didn't say it wasn't. Just commenting on temps. Should see some very chilly lows towards the end of this week. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Didn't say it wasn't. Just commenting on temps. I was agreeing with you. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 No question a 2007-08 redux is a big fear for this winter. I would like to see something break the back of that analog fairly soon. As people have pointed out that winter came very close to delivering the goods on a number of occasions so it wouldn't take much. Sounds we need something like 2007-2008, but with a more offshore flow. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Received 0.22" of rain so far. It was nice stepping outside this morning and smelling the rain cleansed air! Looks like Jose might be an issue for Cape Cod on Wednesday. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 First snow of the season at Timberline Lodge this morning. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Winter Storm watch for Rainier and surrounding areas. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENational Weather Service Seattle WA219 AM PDT Mon Sep 18 2017WAZ569-182215-/O.EXT.KSEW.WS.A.0001.170919T0100Z-170919T1800Z/Cascades of Pierce and Lewis Counties-219 AM PDT Mon Sep 18 2017...WINTER STORM WATCH NOW IN EFFECT FOR THE CASCADES OF PIERCE ANDLEWIS COUNTIES ABOVE 5000 FEET FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH TUESDAYMORNING...* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...A total of 8 to 14 inches are possible bylate Tuesday morning.* SOME AFFECTED LOCATIONS...Paradise on Mount Rainier and ChinookPass.* TIMING...The heaviest snow is expected to fall tonight.* SNOW LEVEL...Near 5500 feet, lowering to near 5000 feet earlyTuesday.* MAIN IMPACT...Winter driving conditions are possible.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...A Winter Storm Watch means there is a potential for significantsnow...sleet...or ice accumulations that may impact travel.Continue to monitor the latest forecasts. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Received 0.22" of rain so far. It was nice stepping outside this morning and smelling the rain cleansed air! Looks like Jose might be an issue for Cape Cod on Wednesday. Also shows the rain event for Wednesday morning going even further south of us than previous runs. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted September 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Whistler got a dusting of snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Seems like the kind of day where we could see some cold core thunderstorms in spots, later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Also shows the rain event for Wednesday morning going even further south of us than previous runs. Still looks like a decent rain. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder98 Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Storm #1 totals for the Puget Sound area so far. Olympia: 0.32"Tacoma: 0.31"Seattle (Boeing Field): 0.06"Everett: 0.33"Mount Vernon: 0.13"Bellingham: 0.25" Sources: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=sew&sid=KOLM&num=72&raw=0http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=sew&sid=KTIW&num=72&raw=0http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=sew&sid=KBFI&num=72&raw=0http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=sew&sid=KPAE&num=72&raw=0http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=sew&sid=KBVS&num=72&raw=0http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?wfo=sew&sid=KBLI&num=72&raw=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Marine Layer Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 They finally got some measurable rain in Portland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Picked up close to .3" this morning. The air smells and feels the freshest it has in a long time. 54 right now after a low of 51. It's dried out for now but it looks like there is another healthy batch of showers off to the west. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 They finally got some measurable rain in Portland. Measurable rain is a pretty big deal in these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Measurable rain is a pretty big deal in these parts.We're ahead of Laguna Beach, for now, but I'm sure they will catch up to us again in the coming days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Modelling has sure trended drier over the next couple weeks up this way. Maybe 0.1" over the next few days and then the GFS has been consistently showing dry weather the next 2 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Modelling has sure trended drier over the next couple weeks up this way. Maybe 0.1" over the next few days and then the GFS has been consistently showing dry weather the next 2 weeks.GFS spits out 3" for us between now and Wednesday. I'm sure that is overdone. But 1"-1.5" wouldn't surprise me for our Sunday-Wednesday total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Euro wants to warm us up a lot faster than the GFS next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 GFS spits out 3" for us between now and Wednesday. I'm sure that is overdone. But 1"-1.5" wouldn't surprise me for our Sunday-Wednesday total.Yea, things have trended south a fair bit. We had 0.04" yesterday with the 12z showing a few hundredths of an inch later today and again Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Euro wants to warm us up a lot faster than the GFS next week. Canadian is more like the GFS. Still, can't ever bet against the Euro days 7+. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 I'm heading up to the Cariboo area this weekend. If the skies are clear it should be well down into the 20's during the early mornings. Clinton, BC has been 22, 23, 29, 27 the past 4 mornings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted September 18, 2017 Report Share Posted September 18, 2017 Canadian is more like the GFS. Still, can't ever bet against the Euro days 7+.PDX's shot at a record warm September will likely be decided by how warm the 27th-30th decide to get. Stressful days! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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