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This weekend looks like a another good opportunity for showers and

even some thunderstorms as another dynamic low pressure system

swings out of the northern Rockies and into the Great Lakes. 

 

Finally!! 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Finally!! 

Exactly, lets hope this trend is our friend this upcoming Winter season.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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After looking at the latest guidance, I think the game is going to be cancelled today. Not a good day for baseball.

 

The radar is lighting up to the south and is only supposed to get heavier. If I were to make a decision, I would cancel. Ugly looking afternoon with a strong wind off the lake and likely very heavy rain at times.

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Tbh...I honestly wish that Winterstorms didn't have any names. Just plain Winterstorm Watch or Warning would've been just fine. All these names are ridiculous. Ofc, tropical systems I have no issue with having them named.

 

I have this in my sig on the local SMI forum  :lol:

 

 

 

"In my day, they didn't name 'em, they just called 'em blizzards! *Shakes fist in air and ambles away mumbling to himself"
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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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12z Euro trending towards the GFS with the weekend system...less amped that's for sure...

 

Tbh, the same kinda happened last weekend. Sans a strong cold push out of Canada, we barely had a cold front temps drop. Surely wasn't your typical robust autumn chill like the N Plains just experienced. The cold has to be on the move into our region, not just parked up north, otherwise the SLP just goes to the cold, and and the dynamics won't be there for the excitement us wx peeps want to see. Not to deflate, It's actually a bit early for those kind of systems. Need some snow cover or some better cold via a month from now. 

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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GFS with a nice looking storm at the end of its run. Haha

Lala land

 

Map me, I'm game. This autumn should be one where some of these have a better chance a coming true. Or at least close

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Our NE peeps get their first Freeze of the year tonight! Except for our OMA peeps...

 

 

After looking at the latest guidance, I think the game is going to be cancelled today. Not a good day for baseball.

 

The radar is lighting up to the south and is only supposed to get heavier. If I were to make a decision, I would cancel. Ugly looking afternoon with a strong wind off the lake and likely very heavy rain at times.

I'm kind of swaying back and forth about the freeze. My tomato and pepper plants have a lot of produce on them yet. I don't want to do what I did last year and cover everything up, I didn't get things cleaned up until about thanksgiving! I think I'm gonna just let the freeze take everything out! 

 

I'm also swaying back and forth about the game tonight. I missed last night's game, gonna be late for tonight's game and would miss the make-up game Wednesday because of conferences. This week sucks for my schedule!!! GO CUBS!

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You have to love a system that trends upward as it approaches, eh?? RPM had me fooled yesterday, guess it's a shorter time-frame model or they didn't run it out to the time stamp they posted on the graphic?, or it's just truly been playing catch-up to the dynamic situation. Not sure tbh..

 

 

 

 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Wondering if there's enough West to east component on this system that will allow it to move on by in a couple hours. Maybe postpone the Cubs game to 7 start time?

It looks like the models want to have the SLP pivot across C IL which basically causes this thing to move so slowly.  I don't think a later start time is any better.  Earlier would have been the better but TBS was all to worried about ratings.

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Been a very dreary day here in Cedar Rapids, IA. Sitting at 48 degrees with a windchill of 43. We’ve had a constant rain since at least 11:00am today and looks to continue overnight. So far, radar estimates show we’ve gotten about an inch of rain as of 4:00pm. Could get to 1.5 or close to 2 by tommrow.

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Been a very dreary day here in Cedar Rapids, IA. Sitting at 48 degrees with a windchill of 43. We’ve had a constant rain since at least 11:00am today and looks to continue overnight. So far, radar estimates show we’ve gotten about an inch of rain as of 4:00pm. Could get to 1.5 or close to 2 by tommrow.

Tom posted: "Someone may be measuring snow depths in yard sticks this year! Impressive!"

 

With that qpf in winter? Tom's gonna nail it!

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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You getting any drenching yet? Large area of hvy returns heading into S Chicago.

Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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I have this in my sig on the local SMI forum  :lol:

;)

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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They finally updated after two days. Prolly cuz this breaks the broken record dryness they needed to make sure they weren't seeing a mirage lol

 

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Thats a fricken excellent track for heavy snow in SMI.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Cloudy and coolish outside. Temp holding in the 50s. No rain as of yet.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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You getting any drenching yet? Large area of hvy returns heading into S Chicago.

Oh ya, picked up close to .60" of rain thus far with a breezy wind coming out of the NE.  Finally, a real autumnal feel to the day/night.  Radar has lit up to the SW and should be rotating here overnight.  

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Rain on the way! its looking like a soggy, Autumn, chilly, dismal day tomorrow. Radar looking good! :)

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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I could be looking at healthy rain totals. Maybe 1"+.

Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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Today's spinning cyclone looks real healthy on the radar this morning.  A widespread defo band has spread across the Lower Lakes as it spins near Kankakee, IL:

 

 

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/1000hPa/orthographic=-88.36,41.22,3000

 

 

This storm system looks very promising for future cycles.  Picked up another .95 so far since midnight and a total creeping close to 2".

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Today's spinning cyclone looks real healthy on the radar this morning.  A widespread defo band has spread across the Lower Lakes as it spins near Kankakee, IL:

 

 

https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/isobaric/1000hPa/orthographic=-88.36,41.22,3000

 

 

This storm system looks very promising for future cycles.  Picked up another .95 so far since midnight and a total creeping close to 2".

 

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#1 - it's really impressive. Came further north after all 

 

 

 

 

Very surprised at the winds, considering the high baro

 

 

 

 

 

#2 - I posted the same, lol

 

 

Winds with this nice event are a pleasant surprise. Should be sweet if this cycles back during the new SRC. 

 

#3 - Wow, what a storm this would be for you if that were +SN ..Dude you'd be buried!

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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To bolded:

 

#1 - it's really impressive. Came further north after all 

 

attachicon.gif20171011 Intellicast GLs map-5am Obs.jpg

 

 

Very surprised at the winds, considering the high baro

 

attachicon.gif20171011 Intellicast GLs wind map-6am Obs.jpg

 

attachicon.gif20171011 KLAN Obs 7am.JPG

 

#2 - I posted the same, lol

 

 

#3 - Wow, what a storm this would be for you if that were +SN ..Dude you'd be buried!

Jaster, you hit it on the head my man...read my mind buddy!  I woke this morning and checked the radar and noticed the jog north as well.  It's the most ideal track for MBY to not only sit under the defo band but get the lake involved.  It's pretty breezy and gusty out there today.  I could hear the winds blowing the trees all night as the rain drops pelted my sky light.  It's going to be a dreary, damp, raw day at Wrigley.  Prob misty and very wet.  Quite the contrast to last year when it was in the 70's and 80's pretty much all of October and a SSW wind!

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It finally looks like an October day.....wet, breezy and chilly.....temps in the upper 40s.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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This storm track today is an ideal track for some nice, heavy snowfall in SEMI during Winter. Cant be better than this.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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