Front Ranger Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 That is my thought too. There have only been 7 years where SEA has had below normal precip every month from May - August: 1951, 1952, 1958, 1970, 1982, 1994, and 2003. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 A little dribble of drizzle! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 64F under marine clouds in Springfield. Very pleasant morning. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 The persistently low dewpoints the past few summers have been a big problem. The higher humidity in the summers of 2013 and 2014 was much appreciated.Of course, there are many summers that have been moist without being torches like those (especially 2014). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Heavy drizzle! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Of course, there are many summers that have been moist without being torches like those (especially 2014). Semi-regular rains May through July seems like the best antidote to a bad fire season. Some of the worst wildfire years like 1958, 2015, and 2017 all turned dry in late spring and then really dry for a month or two in the summer. Unfortunately, 2018 has taken that path so far as well. A region-wide soaking before August would be hugely beneficial, but that doesn't look likely at all. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Highs in the 70s would fit my definition of paradise, yes. Scheduled to land at SeaTac around 8pm tomorrow, then making the drive up to Everett. Also grabbed some tickets to the Mariners/White Sox game on the 20th. That looks like it will be just that.https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lon=-122.19068745489528&lat=47.97076872041694#.W1C7itJKg2w Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Basically all of western OR/WA south of Seattle is now in moderate drought conditions. When comparing to maps at this time from previous years (they go back to 2000), the only time the drought situation was worse for areas west of the mountains was 2015, when much of the region was in severe drought. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Of course, there are many summers that have been moist without being torches like those (especially 2014). Whatever keeps the dust and fire danger down keeps me happy. I don't remember those being bad fire seasons here locally but I could be forgetting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Fascinating. http://www.stce.be/news/414/welcome.html Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Clouds even more extensive this morning. Low of 55 last night felt great! Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Basically all of western OR/WA south of Seattle is now in moderate drought conditions. 20180717_west_none.png When comparing to maps at this time from previous years (they go back to 2000), the only time the drought situation was worse for areas west of the mountains was 2015, when much of the region was in severe drought.Heavy drizzle!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Whatever keeps the dust and fire danger down keeps me happy. I don't remember those being bad fire seasons here locally but I could be forgetting.2014 had some bad ones on the east side. Well above average temps are a pretty significant part of the fire equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 2014 had some bad ones on the east side. Well above average temps are a pretty significant part of the fire equation. Yeah, I forgot about the big Okanogan County fire that year. 2013 was fairly average though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just another 70” of snow over the next 10 days across Western Greenland. No biggie. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Hmmmmm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Looks like the wildfire near The Dallas has grown to over 50,000 acres and expected to increase by tonight. The good news is that the winds are suppose to die down by tomorrow so hopefully they can make progress. "THE DALLES, OR (KPTV) - Crews responding to the wildfire burning near The Dalles are expecting a busy day with similar weather conditions as Wednesday as they try to get a handle on the growing fire. Officials provided an update on the Substation Fire Thursday morning and said the fire remained at more than 50,000 acres, but they expect it to increase by the evening." http://www.kptv.com/story/38684614/deadly-substation-fire-remains-at-more-than-50k-acres-cause-under-investigation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Chilly 59 here in Skykomish currently. Nothing around here looks drought stressed either. Lush!! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just another 70” of snow over the next 10 days across Western Greenland. No biggie. That reminds me of this story. Birds that breed in the Arctic are finding their food supplies cut off by the deep snow still. Many places have snow depths of 1 m or more. Birds are starving by the thousands. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/late-snowpack-signals-a-lost-summer-for-greenlands-shorebirds/ Being dubbed the year without a summer in Greenland and Baffin Island areas. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Looks like the wildfire near The Dallas has grown to over 50,000 acres and expected to increase by tonight. The good news is that the winds are suppose to die down by tomorrow so hopefully they can make progress. "THE DALLES, OR (KPTV) - Crews responding to the wildfire burning near The Dalles are expecting a busy day with similar weather conditions as Wednesday as they try to get a handle on the growing fire. Officials provided an update on the Substation Fire Thursday morning and said the fire remained at more than 50,000 acres, but they expect it to increase by the evening." http://www.kptv.com/story/38684614/deadly-substation-fire-remains-at-more-than-50k-acres-cause-under-investigationIt looks like they are suspecting arson as the cause of the wildfire. After what happened last year with the Columbia River Gorge fire, it continues to amaze me how irresponsible people are. This one is even worse than last year because this would have been intentional. If it is arson they need to find the person(s) and hopefully bring them to justice. An innocent man lost his life in all of this. "During a press conference Thursday morning, when asked about the cause of the Substation Fire, Oregon Gov. Kate Brown told a reporter, "clearly, you're hearing there is a likelihood of arson, and our agencies are going to help in that investigation." After the press conference ended, KGW reporter Tim Gordon spoke to Oregon Assistant State Fire Marshal Mariana Ruiz-Temple and Doug Grafe, the Fire Protection Division Chief with the Oregon Department of Forestry, and both confirmed that local law enforcement agencies are investigating the fire as suspected arson." https://www.kgw.com/mobile/article/news/local/deadly-wildfire-near-the-dalles-being-investigated-as-suspected-arson/283-574914450 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Awesome trends on the GEFS from 00z to 12z for the end of July onwards (trend map, not an anomaly map). One of the few times I’m actually rooting for this pattern. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 12z ECWMF looks brutal beginning Sunday until the end of the run. Jesse might appreciate that Montana looks to get just enough NW flow from the departing trough to keep things in check so possibly nice escape from the excessive heat. Skirting a real fine line though on this run. Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Chilly 59 here in Skykomish currently. Nothing around here looks drought stressed either. Lush!! I can tell you were parked at that gas station - the only gas station there! Clouds still show no signs of breaking here. 61 only. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 That reminds me of this story. Birds that breed in the Arctic are finding their food supplies cut off by the deep snow still. Many places have snow depths of 1 m or more. Birds are starving by the thousands. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/late-snowpack-signals-a-lost-summer-for-greenlands-shorebirds/ Being dubbed the year without a summer in Greenland and Baffin Island areas.Wow, that’s insane (and sad). Really feels like the beginning of a shift up there. If the Baffin Vortex remains coherent through the month of August (unprecedented in recent decades) then I’ll be convinced that this is a legitimate, longer term climate shift. Until then, I’m on the fence about it (not that it matters what I think, haha). Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Perfect morning for deck staining! Thanks global warming/cooling! 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Looks like the wildfire near The Dallas has grown to over 50,000 acres and expected to increase by tonight. The good news is that the winds are suppose to die down by tomorrow so hopefully they can make progress. "THE DALLES, OR (KPTV) - Crews responding to the wildfire burning near The Dalles are expecting a busy day with similar weather conditions as Wednesday as they try to get a handle on the growing fire. Officials provided an update on the Substation Fire Thursday morning and said the fire remained at more than 50,000 acres, but they expect it to increase by the evening." http://www.kptv.com/story/38684614/deadly-substation-fire-remains-at-more-than-50k-acres-cause-under-investigationIs it all grasslands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Defense Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Is it all grasslands. A lot of wheat fields too, so lots of farmers and farm workers watching their paycheck go up in smoke.....if I had to speculate (I haven't been able to read many articles) the guy who died last night was probably trying to cut a fire line to protect his property and crops. Quote Britton Rd Bellingham Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWABELLI103?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Is it all grasslands.It's mostly scrub grass and wheat fields. The wheat fields are how these farmers make a living so it's not looking good for them at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 The 12z EURO trended warmer for the middle of next week. For PDX it's showing the heatwave starting on Sunday with Monday and Tuesday getting into the mid 90s. Then Wednesday to Saturday it's showing upper 90s/close to 100. July is going to finish the hottest on record here for PDX now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 A lot of wheat fields too, so lots of farmers and farm workers watching their paycheck go up in smoke.....if I had to speculate (I haven't been able to read many articles) the guy who died last night was probably trying to cut a fire line to protect his property and crops. Yeah mostly likely he was trying to protect his crops and home. Sad Can't really see the smoke on the satellite. Interesting cloud patterns off shore. 1 Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Yeah mostly likely he was trying to protect his crops and home. Sad Can't really see the smoke on the satellite. Interesting cloud patterns off shore. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/west/wfo/pqr/vis.jpg Looking north from Pilot Butte in Bend last night the smoke was barely visible. In fact in this picture you cannot really make it out. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Mid July sun not enough strong enough; so far, to break up these marine clouds. Temperature flat line at 61 since 11:30 here. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 What an awful Euro run. Hope it’s out to lunch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 What an awful Euro run. Hope it’s out to lunch. I can tell by the 850 mb temps. Is it highs in the 90s to near 100? Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 I can tell by the 850 mb temps. Is it highs in the 90s to near 100?Sounds fun!! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Clouds starting to break up. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Sounds fun!! Your area probably won't be as hot as it will down this way. Solid cloud deck still, up to 62... Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Finally. The sun is out. Took long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Low cloud shocker in progress! #1985reincarnate! Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 #!!!#!! Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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