PNW February 2023 Weather Discussion - Meteorological winter finale

[MossMan]

14 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

It's ridiculous to leave out the Seattle area for the advisory.  

Michael Snider mentioned the other day that he thinks it could be that they don’t like to pull any triggers anymore before the event is underway in case it busts it won’t mess with their “score rating” or something like that? But if they post a warning during the event it also doesn’t affect their score? 

[snow_wizard]

9 minutes ago, Weiner Warrior said:

Fox 13 just reminded us the roads will be warm. No accumulation on the roads. It's over. Bring on Summer

WTF?  It was 20 degrees here and the ground is frozen rock hard.  Talk about clueless!

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF with the main front tonight.

[snow_wizard]

1 minute ago, MossMan said:

Michael Snider mentioned the other day that he thinks it could be that they don’t like to pull any triggers anymore before the event is underway in case it busts it won’t mess with their “score rating” or something like that? But if they post a warning during the event it also doesn’t affect their score? 

It's worthless if they wait that long though.

[Doinko]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF with the main front tonight.

Weather.com is forecasting 1-3" here. I kind of doubt it but maybe we'll get lucky again

[Kolk1604]

3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

WTF?  It was 20 degrees here and the ground is frozen rock hard.  Talk about clueless!

Donald Trump was right about one thing... The news is fake! 

[TT-SEA]

This is total precip through tomorrow morning... amounts have been trending downward for the Seattle area which is why its showing less snow.

[TacomaWx]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF with the main front tonight.

Gfs and euro kuchera maps both show exactly 1.4” here…Gem 0.3”. Maybe the NWS taking the gem into consideration for not putting out an advisory for the Seattle metro? 

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z ECMWF with the main front tonight.

Kind of weak for this area.  It could be right though.  At least we have a lot of chances after this.

[TT-SEA]

High temps and wind tomorrow.

[GHweatherChris]

I say no more snow, temp, precip or wind maps posted today, lets old school this bytch!!

Edited February 25, 2023 by GHweatherChris

[runninthruda206]

11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

What is amazing up north in the Vancouver area is that the ECMWF shows the event starting by noon today and yet tomorrow morning at 6 a.m. its still going strong up there while the main front has already cleared the Seattle area.  

I’m bout to be in the biggest snowstorm of my life up in whistler

[TT-SEA]

Snow from tomorrow afternoon through early Monday afternoon... precip is very scattered by tomorrow afternoon.  

[Cold Snap]

16 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

It showed precip approaching the Vancouver area between 10 a.m. - 1 p.m.  

Good to know. I thought the precip was arriving several hours early but it’s good that it’s still on time.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, runninthruda206 said:

I’m bout to be in the biggest snowstorm of my life up in whistler

I hope you are already there!  

[flya00]

26 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Getting reports of flurries in metro Vancouver, though nothing IMBY yet. Looks like it’s coming in early.

Looking at cameras I’m seeing nothing. The closest I saw some flurries was on the Island.

[TT-SEA]

High temps on Monday.

[KingstonWX]

3 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

It's worthless if they wait that long though.

This goes back to what I was saying the other day... when they forecast snow and it busts, they lose more trust with the general public than they do by waiting until an event is underway to issue warnings and nowcasts. When they are late to the party, it's just us weather nerds that get all uppity. The general public just sees it as surprise snow and doesn't really assign blame on the mets the way they do when they buy 700 rolls of toilet paper and gas up their generator only to have a snow forecast turn to 35 degrees and rain. 

That being said, there's been quite an uproar in Kitsap County this week. A lot of roads went untreated last week due to the NWS downplaying the chance of snow. Even though most areas only got 0.1"-1" of snow, schools were shut down, roads were a mess, and hundreds of cars were in ditches. The county is pointing the finger directly at the NWS, saying they didn't know what was coming and couldn't get roads treated in time. 

[Gummy]

1 minute ago, Cold Snap said:

Good to know. I thought the precip was arriving several hours early but it’s good that it’s still on time.

I am supposed to fly out of Seatac on Tuesday at 10:00 AM. Not rooting for snow Tuesday morning. My luck is awful though, we will probably get hammered.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

This is total precip through tomorrow morning... amounts have been trending downward for the Seattle area which is why its showing less snow.

More for here though.

[TT-SEA]

Boom!   Seattle area snow on Monday night.

[GHweatherChris]

5 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

I say no more snow, temp, precip or wind maps posted today, lets old school this bytch!!

I wasn't joking.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Gummy said:

I am supposed to fly out of Seatac on Tuesday at 10:00 AM. Not rooting for snow Tuesday morning. My luck is awful though, we will probably get hammered.

12Z ECMWF says Tuesday morning might be problematic at SEA.    Your bad luck might pay off for everyone this time.  

[High Desert Mat?]

16 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Omg where do these idiots get this shitt. We just had a couple of nights with lows in the low to mid 20's and highs barely above freezing and some places not above freezing for 2 days. Roads are about as cold as they can get. The stupidity and inexperience in the weather forecasting world in this area is embarrassing.  

Solar radiation is a real thing. Cloudy or not. 

[snow_wizard]

The ECMWF really gets the job done Tuesday morning.  925mb temps check out too.

[Kolk1604]

Tuesday 4AM, if your placing your bets on a 10:1 Ratio (I am!) 

 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Boom!   Seattle area snow on Monday night.

Holy fukkk another 5 here  

[TT-SEA]

Tuesday morning through 10 a.m.... that morning looks very snowy for King County.    Even though it also shows a strong SW wind developing.  

[snow_wizard]

8 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

I say no more snow, temp, precip or wind maps posted today, lets old school this bytch!!

You know as well as I do that's about impossible for most of us.

[TacomaWx]

Euro still way north with the low, noticed the gem is also further north but not quite as far. Gfs way south with it. 

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Tuesday morning through 10 a.m.... that morning looks very snowy for King County.    Even though it also shows a strong SW wind developing.  

I'm sure hoping the more southern low track of the GFS verifies.

[snow_wizard]

3 minutes ago, High Desert Mat? said:

Solar radiation is a real thing. Cloudy or not. 

But still.  The road beds are frozen and this will be happening at night.

[GHweatherChris]

2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

You know as well as I do that's about impossible for most of us.

Ya, but it would be awesome to experience it as it unravels naturally not in a what a computer says might happen kind of way, like when most of us were kids!!

[TT-SEA]

Another run showing a roaring SW wind in Seattle on Tuesday afternoon with a really strong c-zone along the King/Snohomish line.  

[bainbridgekid]

@TT-SEAcan you post the Euro BC snow map for the Euro? I wanna see how much it shows here in Whistler.

[GHweatherChris]

no more maps, no more maps, no more maps

[snow_wizard]

Even with that burst of SW winds the ECMWF still drops it below freezing early Tuesday night.

[runninthruda206]

10 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

I hope you are already there!  

On our way should be driving through a little bit of snow falling in Vancouver area but should make it by 1 before the heavy stuff starts! Made sure my buddies knew we had to leave earlier rather than later haha

[TT-SEA]

Just now, GHweatherChris said:

Ya, but it would be awesome to experience it as it unravels naturally not in a what a computer says might happen kind of way, like when most of us were kids!!

Then sign off and enjoy it!  

[snow_wizard]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Another run showing a roaring SW wind in Seattle on Tuesday afternoon with a really strong c-zone along the King/Snohomish line.  

Some places will do well with both the main event and the C-Zone.