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Jan 18th-20th Potential Winter Storm. Can this be The One??


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GRR announced they will no longer be issuing winter headlines. Something about the gov shutdown. Idk?

 

Said they needed a new excuse not to issue Winter Storm Watches and that the gov shutdown seemed to be a timely excuse. They feel Winter Storm Watches are confusing to the public.

:huh:

 

Makes no sense...

 

EDIT: 

Per USA Today:

 

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which the weather service is under, confirmed in a statement to USA TODAY that its forecasts are on track despite the partial federal closure.

"Much of NOAA National Weather Service operations are in excepted status and therefore remain in place to provide forecasts and warnings to protect lives and property," the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said in a statement to USA TODAY. "With several storm systems impacting the country, staff continue mission-essential functions."

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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:huh:

 

Makes no sense...

 

You realize I'm only half joking don't you?? :P

 

Prolly get a decent GRR Met on duty overnight and if he likes trends, they'll issue something on this event for the morning package. 

 

0z NAMily were staying strong with the FGEN banding along or just south of I-94. I don't know how long they can ignore that. We'll see I guess

 

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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Tom's in for quite the schlammering this weekend tho..

 

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It has been nearly a decade since seeing those totals actually predicted by the NWS in my backyard. This is absolutely amazing, I’m finally getting my Christmas present that I’ve hoped for, for so long. I love Chicago, and despite loving Nebraska, I’m so happy I’m here and this snow is just a plus. I can’t wait :) this is gunna be an amazing weekend!

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You realize I'm only half joking don't you?? :P

 

Prolly get a decent GRR Met on duty overnight and if he likes trends, they'll issue something on this event for the morning package. 

 

0z NAMily were staying strong with the FGEN banding along or just south of I-94. I don't know how long they can ignore that. We'll see I guess

 

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Ofc I did...that's why it made no sense to me.

 

I am disappointed w the NWS for not at least upgraded us to a WWA for the safety of the public. If at any point they feel that they went too far, they can always downgrade. Not a good idea to add headlines during a snowstorm. Idk, I feel that they are not looking at the facts thoroughly.

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Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area 

Oct 2023: 0.2" AN

Nov 2023: 2.2" AN

Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane!

Jan 2024: 17.0" AN

Feb 2024: 1.9"  BN Insane!

Mar 2024: 4.9" BN

April 2024: Trace

Season So Far: 26.7"

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It has been nearly a decade since seeing those totals actually predicted by the NWS in my backyard. This is absolutely amazing, I’m finally getting my Christmas present that I’ve hoped for, for so long. I love Chicago, and despite loving Nebraska, I’m so happy I’m here and this snow is just a plus. I can’t wait :) this is gunna be an amazing weekend!

 

Northern IL is looking good. Hoping the lake effect cranks up for you. it is a crazy experience in Chicago

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Looking forward to Fri night's runs. I think they'll be a lot better. Previous storm was like a last-minute qpf explosion. Let's see if this follows that pattern? Heard that this type of phase is particularly difficult to model.

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Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season)  Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13)   Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1

Avg = 59.2"  (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" 

Avg = 45.0"  (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5"   2021-22 = 35.6"    

Avg = 49.7"  (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2"   2019-20 = 48.0"   2018-19 = 56.1"   2017-18 = 68.3"    2016-17 = 52"    2015-16 = 57.4"    2014-15 = 55.3"    2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!)  2012-13 = 47.2"    2011-12 = 43.7"

Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918

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The 3k nam is basically a wetter version of the 00z HRRR.  I don't like the way they are delaying the storm's ramp-up and so are diverting the heavy plume of moisture south and east of much of Iowa.

season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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It has been nearly a decade since seeing those totals actually predicted by the NWS in my backyard. This is absolutely amazing, I’m finally getting my Christmas present that I’ve hoped for, for so long. I love Chicago, and despite loving Nebraska, I’m so happy I’m here and this snow is just a plus. I can’t wait :) this is gunna be an amazing weekend!

Exciting to see but best to keep your expectations managed. These sort of scenarios do have moderate bust potential. Likely to see some appreciable snows but I’m still skeptical of those higher totals.

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Wow, the worst possible outcome is coming true for eastern Nebraska. This blows. Oh well! Enjoy your snow Iowa! Maybe next time Nebraska...

We should have seen this coming days ago... once area schools cancelled classes earlier this evening for tomorrow I could sense a potential bust upcoming.

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00z RGEM

 

The latest HRRR, NAM, ICON, and RGEM all have the same look.  The northern band is still there, but weaker.  The southern band is being diverted more to the east.  Western Iowa is not looking good.

 

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season snowfall: 34.8"

'22-23: 30.2"      '21-22: 27.1"      '20-21: 52.5"      '19-20: 36.2"      '18-19: 50.2"      '17-18: 39.5"

Average snowfall: ~30"

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00z RGEM

 

The latest HRRR, NAM, ICON, and RGEM all have the same look. The northern band is still there, but weaker. The southern band is being diverted more to the east. Western Iowa is not looking good.

 

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Northern stream really doesn’t seem that much weaker on the NAM, at least in the Eastern half of Iowa. And the HRRR has been starting to look better.
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00z RGEM

 

The latest HRRR, NAM, ICON, and RGEM all have the same look.  The northern band is still there, but weaker.  The southern band is being diverted more to the east.  Western Iowa is not looking good.

 

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Agree- but it does seem like recent HRRR and RAP are starting to babystep more to the NAM- which is more gracious for W.IA

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If that verifies - it would be the biggest bust I can ever remember this close to an event. Almost the entire state of IA is in a warning to that? WOW.

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First signs were RGEM / 3KM NAM from 18Z and also CMC from 18Z  The NAM has been solid all winter but right now I have serious doubts about it.

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