July 2019 Weather Discussion for the PNW

[Frontal Snowsquall]

Good morning. TWC is going for 91 today at PDX. It's going to be a hot one.

[Front Ranger]

I feel like February and March of this year is just a taste of what this coming winter season will offer! I had 41 straight days with snow on the ground...let’s see if I can surpass that number!

That's an insane number for anywhere in the lowlands.

[Front Ranger]

[Jesse]

Another coolish late July morning. Got down to 54 here.

[TacomaWaWx]

I was seriously jealous of your bare ground during the first half of March... that snow cover was really annoying as we moved into spring.

It was pretty crazy. We were melted out here by March 1st completely but my buddy in graham had a half foot of snow in his backyard while we were trying to BBQ on my birthday March 18th while it was 75 degrees outside. I’ve never seen that before.

[TacomaWaWx]

Morning low of 55 degrees, currently 61.

[seattleweatherguy]

I think this one has top 10% potential.

 

In terms of snow or more in terms of bitter cold reaching the puget sound?

[Phil]

Where is the video Phil? Dinner can't last that long....

[BLI snowman]

99 in London today, good for an all time record.

 

I'm going there next week, disappointed to have to just miss out on the fun.

[Jesse]

99 in London today, good for an all time record.

 

I'm going there next week, disappointed to have to just miss out on the fun.

All time record heat is a dime a dozen these days anyway.

[Jesse]

[GHweatherChris]

Looks lovely.

[BLI snowman]

All time record heat is a dime a dozen these days anyway.

 

Hopefully a little all time treat for me here when I get back if I can't have it there....

[Front Ranger]

The Sunshine State!

[Frontal Snowsquall]

I'm already beginning to scrape togther the data for a winter forecast. I feel inspired this year!

Can’t wait to see that!

I think this one has top 10% potential.

That's great to hear. I'm also thinking we're going to have a cold and snowy winter ahead. The last 2 Dec/Jan have been duds so I'm liking our chances one or both months. Interested in the analogs you're looking at.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

Hot and humid rain, my favorite. I'll take it over cold rain any day of the week.

[Jesse]

Hopefully a little all time treat for me here when I get back if I can't have it there....

You’ve got it!

 

That will be .008333 cents...

[Jesse]

[Phil]

Hot and humid rain, my favorite. I'll take it over cold rain any day of the week.

You trolling brother?

[Jesse]

[TT-SEA]

Saturday morning will feel incredible to Phil... c-zone and clouds right over Everett that morning. Clearing up a little by afternoon but low 70s at best that day. Sunday will be wall-to-wall sunshine and 80.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

You trolling brother?

Nope, to me nothing is worst than experiencing cold rain when just slightly colder air means it would be snow instead. Plus, I like the convection associated with rain during the warmer months. The thunder, hail, strong winds and tornado we received earlier this summer is more exciting to me than just plain old rain. That's what I meant.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

[Jesse]

[Omegaraptor]

[Jesse]

[Omegaraptor]

Remember, in just a few short weeks it will be September.

 

And everyone knows that on September 1st the weather pattern in the Northwest instantaneously switches to heavy overcast and 48°F drizzle every single day until July 5th comes around again.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

Beautiful sunny day so far. About to head out for lunch. Currently 79 out here in Hillsboro.

[Front Ranger]

[Phil]

Saturday morning will feel incredible to Phil... c-zone and clouds right over Everett that morning. Clearing up a little by afternoon but low 70s at best that day. Sunday will be wall-to-wall sunshine and 80.

That would be perfect. Contrary to the forum mantra, I would actually prefer sunny/80*F afternoons with low humidity as opposed to drizzle all day long. I need some kind of diurnal variability.

 

But having the foggy, marine conditions in the morning would be a huge plus. I like waking up to a cool, damp, moody atmosphere in the morning as opposed to that yellow, fire-breathing dragon heating up temperatures immediately. Plus it adds interesting mesoscale variability and differential heating gradients (stuff I like to observe back home since it can predict where convection will start, etc).

[High Desert Mat?]

[Phil]

Nope, to me nothing is worst than experiencing cold rain when just slightly colder air means it would be snow instead. Plus, I like the convection associated with rain during the warmer months. The thunder, hail, strong winds and tornado we received earlier this summer is more exciting to me than just plain old rain. That's what I meant.

Ah, okay. I agree 33*F rain is the absolute worst during the winter, for reasons that are mostly psychological (and we get a lot of that cold rain too..so I get it).

 

But as far as how it feels, comfort wise, I’d pick cold rain over warm rain. There is nothing more uncomfortable than those 1-2 hours following a typical “sun-shower” (as opposed to a real t-storm) on a humid summer day, when dews spike into the 80s. An actual thunderstorm will cool the boundary layer, but a sun shower or light rain from anvil blowoff will make things feel a million times worse.

[TT-SEA]

That would be perfect. Contrary to the forum mantra, I would actually prefer sunny/80*F afternoons with low humidity as opposed to drizzle all day long. I need some kind of diurnal variability.

 

But having the foggy, marine conditions in the morning would be a huge plus. I like waking up to a cool, damp, moody atmosphere in the morning as opposed to that yellow, fire-breathing dragon heating up temperatures immediately. Plus it adds interesting mesoscale variability and differential heating gradients (stuff I like to observe back home since it can predict where convection will start, etc).

 

 

Saturday morning will be your dream scenario in Everett...

 

 

 

[Phil]

Saturday morning will be your dream scenario in Everett...

 

 

 

Sounds lovely.

 

Now I just need the models to blow up a super cyclone over Hippa Island during the 7/31 to 8/3 period and it will be a perfect vacation.

[Omegaraptor]

Ah, okay. I agree 33*F rain is the absolute worst during the winter, for reasons that are mostly psychological (and we get a lot of that cold rain too..so I get it).

But as far as how it feels, comfort wise, I’d pick cold rain over warm rain. There is nothing more uncomfortable than those 1-2 hours following a typical “sun-shower” (as opposed to a real t-storm) on a humid summer day, when dews spike into the 80s. An actual thunderstorm will cool the boundary layer, but a sun shower or light rain from anvil blowoff will make things feel a million times worse.

Really can’t dislike cold rain in winter when it brings snow in the mountains, among other benefits I have talked about.

 

Also, just IMO, freezing rain is far worse than 33°F rain.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Really can’t dislike cold rain in winter when it brings snow in the mountains, among other benefits I have talked about.

 

Also, just IMO, freezing rain is far worse than 33°F rain.

Can confirm. Fixin’ to get the tree next to the carport cut down since it leans and overhangs the power lines.

 

If the niño is a no-show then we are going to see regional action again.

[Front Ranger]

Can confirm. Fixin’ to get the tree next to the carport cut down since it leans and overhangs the power lines.

 

If the niño is a no-show then we are going to see regional action again.

 

 

Dud cancel?!?

[High Desert Mat?]

Really can’t dislike cold rain in winter when it brings snow in the mountains, among other benefits I have talked about.

 

Also, just IMO, freezing rain is far worse than 33°F rain.

I disagree. Zr is one of my favorite events. It’s really pretty and the phenomenon just excites me. I’ve seen it at 16 degrees here in Redmond with zr and sleet falling. Makes quite the mess but people just shouldn’t drive during the event. I know about the power outages too, some people like wind (K2) and that causes problems as well. To each his own.

[Requiem]

One thing that bummed me out last winter was the fact there was continuous snow cover for weeks just a couple of miles north of here while I only had 12 days.  It was still decent here, but nothing like just up the road.

 

It is interesting to note how big Februaries one winter often lead to great things the following winter.

 

I mean, it was still 12 days! I had one...

[Omegaraptor]

I mean, it was still 12 days! I had one...

Yeah, again, I’m personally hoping that the Portland area gets a massive blizzard while the entirety of Puget Sound as well as Eugene gets 33°F rain.