Hawkeye Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 00z GFS 4 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Your welcome...we also have the LRC in our back pocket and the fact that the storm will be tracking through the seasons Long Term Long Wave Trough....So we know it should intensify as it moves east. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 So we know it should intensify as it moves east.What a difference a little blocking up near Greenland can do to the pattern...I commented early on in the season that when the west-based Greenland block would develop in the Winter it would rock for our Sub... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Nice returns showing up by Sioux Falls. I'm tempted to get up during the night to see if its snowing much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 The UK is suppressed far to the south next Monday. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mi_Matthew Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 The UK is suppressed far to the south next Monday. The UK also made a big shift west with moisture from the gulf low this weekend. Anyone have access to UK snow maps? All I can see is QPF. It does spit out 0.6"+ of something in Niko and I's backyards though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 What part of Neb is Papillon in?Just south of the Omaha metro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Last nights 00z Euro took a big step back towards its original solution but farther South. Needless to say, looks like we have something to track over the rest of this week. It seems like the Euro's bias of over exaggerating blocking is coming to fruition as this storm is trending NW now. Most models, if not all, are latching onto to the blocking and a slower storm system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Fired up a storm thread for early next weeks Plains/OHV cutter... http://theweatherforums.com/index.php/topic/2138-1215-1218-plainsohv-major-cutter/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Later on today, I'll put in some time and provide my insight on some LR thoughts and let me tell you, I'm fired up where this pattern is heading and it starts early next week! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Last few days of the EURO and into it's control run (days 11-15) is a downright yawner and near torch for many-- especially outside the snowpack. https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=sfct&rh=2019121100&fh=234&r=conus&dpdt=&mc=https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=prateptype_cat_ecmwf&rh=2019121100&fh=234&r=conus&dpdt=&mc= Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Last few days of the EURO and into it's control run (days 11-15) is a downright yawner and near torch for many-- especially outside the snowpack.Don't buy it one bit...the amount of blocking now showing up in the models and the warming on going in the Strat suggests the opposite. We are in for an interesting period of winter weather. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 GFS mean is beautiful! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Don't buy it one bit...the amount of blocking now showing up in the models and the warming on going in the Strat suggests the opposite. We are in for an interesting period of winter weather.No torch coming anytime soon. Nobody in this part of the pattern has any long duration warm up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Don't buy it one bit...the amount of blocking now showing up in the models and the warming on going in the Strat suggests the opposite. We are in for an interesting period of winter weather.I hope your correct!!! Just showing others what the long range Euro is showing - it also agrees with it's own weeklies to an extent. 2 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I hope your correct!!! Just showing others what the long range Euro is showing - it also agrees with it's own weeklies to an extent.For sure Grizz, it's always good to acknowledge the Euro's LR forecast. I was just making a point that the models are now "correcting" to their "own" ideas of high lat blocking which I believe without a doubt now its coming. The 10mb/30mb strat warming LR tools I use are going to be rock solid. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Looks like a little over an inch fell overnight here. Too bad it all happened while I was asleep. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Nice surprise here! Measured 2.2" of snow on my patio table. I knew this system had a shot at over performing. I woke up about 3am and looked out and it was coming down nicely. Fat flakes. Got up at 5 for work and it was just winding down. Measurement was at about 5:30. The interesting thing is the radar was only showing very light returns over my area at 3am when it was coming down pretty heavy and there were heavier returns to my SE. I wonder what areas received down there. Saw a few plows out on my way in to work and it sure adds to the holiday spirit seeing lights and decor glowing under the snow! This is my largest snowfall of the season so far. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Looks like a little over an inch fell overnight here. Too bad it all happened while I was asleep.Surprised you didn't get more. Looked like you had some nice returns down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Nice surprise here! Measured 2.2" of snow on my patio table. I knew this system had a shot at over performing. I woke up about 3am and looked out and it was coming down nicely. Fat flakes. Got up at 5 for work and it was just winding down. Measurement was at about 5:30. The interesting thing is the radar was only showing very light returns over my area at 3am when it was coming down pretty heavy and there were heavier returns to my SE. I wonder what areas received down there. Saw a few plows out on my way in to work and it sure adds to the holiday spirit seeing lights and decor glowing under the snow! This is my largest snowfall of the season so far.Congrats on the overachiever! Always nice to score those once in a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Waterloo with officially 2.1" overnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Storm Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1-4” of snow expected overnight into tomorrow morning from the TC and north. Another miserable morning commute on tap for tomorrow. Meanwhile it only got down to -7F last night at my house. A bit warmer than forecasted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Surprised you didn't get more. Looked like you had some nice returns down there.Returns were decent here as well, but just eyeballing the snow it looks like only around 1/2” of fluff. Hardly worth mentioning as it will melt fast if it thaws, and I’m guessing maybe a hundredth or two of liquid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Congrats to anyone in Iowa who tapped into last nights snow fall. Here in Grand Rapids the official snow fall for yesterday was 2" and with 0.19" of precp. Grand Rapids is now at 48.79" for the year just 0.01" below the record of 48.80" set in 2008. Here at my house at this time I have a temperature of 18 and there is 2" of snow on the ground. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Back home (again). The cold was definitely a shock when I came in last night. 19.6*F. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 A few isolated snowshowers around, otherwise mostly cloudy and chilly w temps at 17F. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 The UK also made a big shift west with moisture from the gulf low this weekend. Anyone have access to UK snow maps? All I can see is QPF. It does spit out 0.6"+ of something in Niko and I's backyards though.Yep..pretty decent run. I'll accept that! 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1.3" in my yard. It would be nice if one of these events would pass through during daylight. Other than the snow squall a few days ago, everything has been at night. I woke up at 4:30 and it looked like the best snow was going around Cedar Rapids, especially south. However, the reports so far show a general 1-2" band through the area. Some places got more than me, but no big deal with a little event like this. 4 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Here is the latest from Terry Swailes. I like his non-biased approach to the model mayhem. He loves cold and snow, but doesn’t look mainly for what he’s hoping/wishing would transpire. Back in November he thought the MJO wasn’t influencing our weather as much as the EPO, but today he didn’t mention the EPO. https://www.tswails.com/terry-s-blog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Congrats to anyone in Iowa who tapped into last nights snow fall. Here in Grand Rapids the official snow fall for yesterday was 2" and with 0.19" of precp. Grand Rapids is now at 48.79" for the year just 0.01" below the record of 48.80" set in 2008. Here at my house at this time I have a temperature of 18 and there is 2" of snow on the ground. That 48.80" is for total precipitation not total snow fall. Just wanted to make that clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 My liquid total this morning is 0.05", so the ratio is 26 to 1. 4 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Looks like a big batch of snow to my west. Temp currently at 21F. Jaster---Looks like you are getting some white powda from these streamers. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Last nights 00z Euro took a big step back towards its original solution but farther South. Needless to say, looks like we have something to track over the rest of this week. It seems like the Euro's bias of over exaggerating blocking is coming to fruition as this storm is trending NW now. Most models, if not all, are latching onto to the blocking and a slower storm system. Well, with the GFS a rainer here, I'm glad to see the Euro south. If all goes right, they meet in the middle and all are happy campers! 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Looks like a big batch of snow to my west. Temp currently at 21F. Jaster---Looks like you are getting some white powda from these streamers. I'm at work in Jackson, not sure if I see anything falling here or not tbh. Your back yard has a headline for SNOW amigo! 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Measured 1.6” in Iowa City and family measured 1.2” in Hiawatha. Whitened everything up a bit 6 Quote 2021-22 Snowfall: (Hiawatha) TOTAL: 10.2" (12/28: 3.0") (12/29: 0.8") (1/1: 6.4") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 we had an inch and a half in NL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'm at work in Jackson, not sure if I see anything falling here or not tbh. Your back yard has a headline for SNOW amigo! Yes sir it does....... TWC:CAUTIOUS TRAVEL IS ADVISED FOR RAPID REDUCTIONS OF VISIBILITIES AND MODERATE SNOWFALL LATE THIS MORNING... WEATHER... * Bands of lake effect snow will impact southeastern Michigan during the mid to late morning hours. * Rapid accumulation of a half inch will be possible for areas impacted through 11 AM EST. * West winds around 15 mph with gusts to 25 mph. * Air temperatures will range between 20 and 25 degrees above zero. IMPACTS... * Localized areas of moderate snow will cause reductions of visibility of less than one mile. There may be rapid fluctuations in visibility. * Accumulating snow and the development of ice may lead to slippery roads particularly on bridges, exit ramps and overpasses. && PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... * Rapid reductions in visibility along with snow covered and slippery roads will cause variable traffic rates throughout the county. Motorists are urged to use caution and account for the variable driving conditions by allowing extra time. * Prepare, plan and stay informed. Visit http://go.usa.gov/c7kkP 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 My liquid total this morning is 0.05", so the ratio is 26 to 1.Impressive. It was definitely very fluffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 The GFS is starting to show the Sunday/Monday storm in 2 waves. One that moves through Sunday and mostly dissipates as it moves east, then the secondary stronger storm behind it a day later. Looks like the 12z run is trying to do the same thing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Clinton will be happy with this run of the GFS. Brings some nice snows to Kansas City 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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