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We remain above average temperature wise while going through one small early summer/late spring wet period. We had a remarkably dry and sunny spring. Every summer since 2013 has been a complete blowtorch essentially with west coast ridges popping up for weeks on end. Yet it seems so hard for people who like sunny weather all the time or act like they do to even acknowledge the fact that they've been truly blessed throughout that time period. Then they use a few wet winters which are always wet anyways to try and say hey well the year overall wasn't dry. These winters were still warm too.

Rain is so much more valuable for our native vegetation during the growing season after March and before October anyways. That rain in the winter is almost completely futile to helping them grow during the summer and when it totally just stops raining in April or May it stresses them out. Just remarkable.

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We remain above average temperature wise while going through one small early summer/late spring wet period. We had a remarkably dry and sunny spring. Every summer since 2013 has been a complete blowtorch essentially with west coast ridges popping up for weeks on end. Yet it seems so hard for people who like sunny weather all the time or act like they do to even acknowledge the fact that they've been truly blessed throughout that time period. Then they use a few wet winters which are always wet anyways to try and say hey well the year overall wasn't dry. These winters were still warm too.

Rain is so much more valuable for our native vegetation during the growing season after March and before October anyways. That rain in the winter is almost completely futile to helping them grow during the summer and when it totally just stops raining in April or May it stresses them out. Just remarkable.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2020-21: 12.0"                        2020-21: 52.02"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

 

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We remain above average temperature wise while going through one small early summer/late spring wet period. We had a remarkably dry and sunny spring. Every summer since 2013 has been a complete blowtorch essentially with west coast ridges popping up for weeks on end. Yet it seems so hard for people who like sunny weather all the time or act like they do to even acknowledge the fact that they've been truly blessed throughout that time period. Then they use a few wet winters which are always wet anyways to try and say hey well the year overall wasn't dry. These winters were still warm too.

Rain is so much more valuable for our native vegetation during the growing season after March and before October anyways. That rain in the winter is almost completely futile to helping them grow during the summer and when it totally just stops raining in April or May it stresses them out. Just remarkable.

We get 2-3 months a year of decent weather typically...Would be nice to get some going. Sorry your area is a desert wasteland.
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We remain above average temperature wise while going through one small early summer/late spring wet period. We had a remarkably dry and sunny spring. Every summer since 2013 has been a complete blowtorch essentially with west coast ridges popping up for weeks on end. Yet it seems so hard for people who like sunny weather all the time or act like they do to even acknowledge the fact that they've been truly blessed throughout that time period. Then they use a few wet winters which are always wet anyways to try and say hey well the year overall wasn't dry. These winters were still warm too.

Rain is so much more valuable for our native vegetation during the growing season after March and before October anyways. That rain in the winter is almost completely futile to helping them grow during the summer and when it totally just stops raining in April or May it stresses them out. Just remarkable.

I honestly really like it when it rains in the warm season. Good for keeping fires down but 55-60 degree rain after its been dry for a week or two smells and feels amazing. Definitely true that it’s very important and beneficial for rains to fall in the warm season as well.
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Warmest high temp-66

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We get 2-3 months a year of decent weather typically...Would be nice to get some going. Sorry your area is a desert wasteland.

 

Exactly.

 

There is no point if you don't get that 2-3 month window of really nice weather.   Its seems so short.   In about 5 or 6 weeks we will be talking about the first fall storm in sight in the models.   That is no time at all.  

 

I truly don't mind rain in the summer... it is very welcome.   Its when it rains every day for 2 weeks straight that it gets to be a little much and it seems like everyone in the family starts to get depressed.    It is what it is.  Its climo here.   Telling them that trees got even more water after being so wet this year already does not make anyone feel happier.  :rolleyes:

 

Different opinions and perspectives.   I respect the other opinions and can see their perspective.   But I literally never worry about a lack of rain here.  

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We remain above average temperature wise while going through one small early summer/late spring wet period. We had a remarkably dry and sunny spring. Every summer since 2013 has been a complete blowtorch essentially with west coast ridges popping up for weeks on end. Yet it seems so hard for people who like sunny weather all the time or act like they do to even acknowledge the fact that they've been truly blessed throughout that time period. Then they use a few wet winters which are always wet anyways to try and say hey well the year overall wasn't dry. These winters were still warm too.

Rain is so much more valuable for our native vegetation during the growing season after March and before October anyways. That rain in the winter is almost completely futile to helping them grow during the summer and when it totally just stops raining in April or May it stresses them out. Just remarkable.

This this this this this this.

 

It’s been an incredible stretch from a climatological standpoint and the snap-back is coming.

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We get 2-3 months a year of decent weather typically...Would be nice to get some going. Sorry your area is a desert wasteland.

If you’re only happy when giant, anomalous ridges park overhead all summer long, then you’re living in the wrong climate and should consider moving.

 

Period.

 

Because you’ll never be satisfied if that’s what you want.

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If you’re only happy when giant, anomalous ridges park overhead all summer long, then you’re living in the wrong climate and should consider moving.

 

Period.

We know climo here. That is why locals say summer starts on July 5th. It makes us appreciate the hell out of any nice weather we get... more so than other places.

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Exactly.

 

There is no point if you don't get that 2-3 month window of really nice weather.   Its seems so short.   In about 5 or 6 weeks we will be talking about the first fall storm in sight in the models.   That is no time at all.  

 

I truly don't mind rain in the summer... it is very welcome.   Its when it rains every day for 2 weeks straight that it gets to be a little much and it seems like everyone in the family starts to get depressed.    It is what it is.  Its climo here.   Telling them that trees got even more water after being so wet this year already does not make anyone feel happier.  :rolleyes:

 

Different opinions and perspectives.   I respect the other opinions and can see their perspective.   But I literally never worry about a lack of rain here.  

 

Fall storm in early to mid August...mmmk.  :rolleyes:

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Total snowfall: 86.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 12.0"

Highest snow depth: 18.0"

Coldest high: -7.0º

Coldest low: -17.1º

Number of subzero days: 7

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Fall storm in early to mid August...mmmk.

 

Usually by the middle of August we start seeing more frequent rains up here... that is climo.    And that is when people on here starting talking about signs of fall.   And the first snow can happen in Montana!   Its just around the corner.

 

Not so much down in Oregon though.   Different perspectives. 

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Got up to 77F. Beautiful day in the south valley. Should be beautiful star watching tonight. Vega going to be straight overhead.

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  • Coldest low: 23F (Oct 26)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 50 (Most recent: Apr 14, 2021)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 3 (Most recent: Dec 24)
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  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 14, 2017 (31F)
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Usually by the middle of August we start seeing more frequent rains up here... that is climo.    And that is when people on here starting talking about signs of fall.   And the first snow can happen in Montana!   Its just around the corner.

 

Not so much down in Oregon though.   

 

The prominent pattern is still very much summer in mid August though, even out here. 

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Cold Season 2020/21:

Total snowfall: 86.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 12.0"

Highest snow depth: 18.0"

Coldest high: -7.0º

Coldest low: -17.1º

Number of subzero days: 7

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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The prominent pattern is still very much summer in mid August though, even out here. 

 

 

Writing is on the wall by then.   Particularly in the northern areas.   It just is... the days are getting shorter and rains become more frequent and school is about to start.    It feels like summer is waning by then.   Its not really debatable... just a fact of life.   Some years are different of course.

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8/29/15! No power for 2 days...That was a heck of a cleanup afterwards.

 

That's not early to mid August.

Cold Season 2020/21:

Total snowfall: 86.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 12.0"

Highest snow depth: 18.0"

Coldest high: -7.0º

Coldest low: -17.1º

Number of subzero days: 7

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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Writing is on the wall by then.   Particularly in the northern areas.   

 

The writing is on the wall that the days are getting shorter now so I guess summer is over!

Cold Season 2020/21:

Total snowfall: 86.0"

Highest daily snowfall: 12.0"

Highest snow depth: 18.0"

Coldest high: -7.0º

Coldest low: -17.1º

Number of subzero days: 7

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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This is now the 5th wettest June on record at PDX at 3.49", moving ahead of 1981 (a hottttt summer). Could move into 4th ahead of 1954 (a very coldddddd summer) if we get another tenth of an inch with the trough this weekend. 

 

Totals to the north and south on the I5 corridor aren't particularly noteworthy. Seattle could even end the month with below average precip.

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The writing is on the wall that the days are getting shorter now so I guess summer is over!

 

Takes until early August to start noticing it.   Just like it often feels like spring is arriving here in February... with some very notable exceptions like 2011 and 2019.   ;)

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This is now the 5th wettest June on record at PDX at 3.49", moving ahead of 1981 (a hottttt summer). Could move into 4th ahead of 1954 (a very coldddddd summer) if we get another tenth of an inch with the trough this weekend. 

 

Totals to the north and south on the I5 corridor aren't particularly noteworthy. Seattle could even end the month with below average precip.

PDX got insanely lucky with showers earlier in the month and the east valley/foothill locations have experienced plenty of orographic precipitation.

 

At HIO (or even here in Tigard/Beaverton) it hasn’t been an eye-popping June at all precip-wise.

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Another great day of golf today, weather was perfect. I Placed 10th out of 51 for our weekend tourney!!

 

 

Weak effort! 

 

9 people were better than you??

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Yep, had a ton of fun, won some cash and did not Timplain about upcoming weekends weather shown on the models!!

Good job!

 

We had a beautiful afternoon too.

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We get 2-3 months a year of decent weather typically...Would be nice to get some going. Sorry your area is a desert wasteland.

There is no doubt your area has been warmer and drier than average the wide majority of warm seasons starting in 2013. There’s a reason your property is dotted with dead trees. ;)

 

The north south difference get played up here by people trying to push the same tired narrative, but looking at the big picture the last several summers have been remarkably warm and dry on the whole for the entire region. Basically an unprecedented stretch for as long as weather has been recorded around here.

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Western Washington’s storm season lasts from September 1 to June 15. Temperatures never go above 60, the average high is 46 for this entire period, it rains an average of 28 days per month, and the sun shines for an average of 15 hours a month. Only between June 16 and August 31 is nice weather possible.

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There is no doubt your area has been warmer and drier than average the wide majority of warm seasons starting in 2013. There’s a reason your property is dotted with dead trees. ;)

 

The north south difference get played up here by people trying to push the same tired narrative, but looking at the big picture the last several summers have been remarkably warm and dry on the whole for the entire region.

 

 

There was rain on 40 days last year from July - Sept last year in my area... way above climo.   We never had to water and that was the first time ever.   It was not a stressful summer for the trees in this area.    2015, 2017, and 2018 were definitely years with tree stress.   But 2016 was also a frequently wet summer in that period.

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If you’re only happy when giant, anomalous ridges park overhead all summer long, then you’re living in the wrong climate and should consider moving.

 

Period.

 

Because you’ll never be satisfied if that’s what you want.

Why don’t you live here again??
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Western Washington’s storm season lasts from September 1 to June 15. Temperatures never go above 60, the average high is 46 for this entire period, it rains an average of 28 days per month, and the sun shines for an average of 15 hours a month. Only between June 16 and August 31 is nice weather possible.

 

 

I bet you would have a very different perspective if you lived up here... and I would have a very different perspective if I lived down there.    Not sure why that is hard to understand.    Its pretty simple.   

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The VAST climatological differences between western Oregon and Western Washington just cannot be overstated.

 

There is a pretty big difference when you go north and east of Seattle.    

 

I think the Portland area has one of the best summer climates in the country... and I am talking about climo and not anomalous heat and drought.   

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I bet you would have a very different perspective if you lived up here... and I would have a very different perspective if I lived down there.    Not sure why that is hard to understand.    Its pretty simple.   

Exactly. The precip and sunshine gradient during warm season between western WA and OR has been much more significant than usual the past few years. This is why OR posters generally root for troughing while WA posters generally root for ridging. 

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Wonder how long it will take Dewey to see his bat signal.

 

 

Not rocket science here.    We have been over this a million times.   This is the problem with picking apart preferences... people don't change their minds.   We all know climo.    But the climo in a particular area can make you want things more.   Just like people who don't normally have snow seem to be obsessed with getting snow.  

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Exactly. The precip and sunshine gradient during warm season between western WA and OR has been much more significant than usual the past few years. This is why OR posters generally root for troughing while WA posters generally root for ridging.

 

Any proof backing up the “more significant than usual” claim? Sounds a little shaky/subjective.

 

By far, the most notable aspect of the last several warm seasons has been the unusual REGIONAL warmth and dryness. That goes for the whole area covered by this sub forum, whether you’re talking north and east of Seattle or south and west of Portland.

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The VAST climatological differences between western Oregon and Western Washington just cannot be overstated.

 

It's jarring.

 

PDX (far south climate zone) averages 6.83" of precip from May 1 to September 30.

 

SEA (in the far northern Cordilleran Ice Sheet afflicted climate zone) averages 6.79" of precip from May 1 to September 30.

 

Southerners could never understand.

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This is now the 5th wettest June on record at PDX at 3.49", moving ahead of 1981 (a hottttt summer). Could move into 4th ahead of 1954 (a very coldddddd summer) if we get another tenth of an inch with the trough this weekend.

 

Totals to the north and south on the I5 corridor aren't particularly noteworthy. Seattle could even end the month with below average precip.

 

That would be hilarious. If SEA is warm/dry for June, Fred should start dishing out weenie tags for any and all heat miser complainers.

 

You’d think Seattle had teleported into the bottom of Niagara Falls based on some of the commentary in here.

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That would be hilarious. If SEA is warm/dry for June, Fred should start dishing out weenie tags for any and all heat miser complainers.

 

You’d think Seattle had teleported into the bottom of Niagara Falls based on some of the commentary in here.

Seattle is in no drought while Portland is in severe drought though. The June rain here hasn’t really helped much like I thought it would.
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00Z GFS is nice overall... quicker with the weekend ULL and nice next week again.    

 

But just like with an arctic blast... watching the models in the mid and long range comes down to what is happening in Alaska.   Any ULL over Alaska in this pattern ends up expanding and making a beeline for the PNW.

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That would be hilarious. If SEA is warm/dry for June, Fred should start dishing out weenie tags for any and all heat miser complainers.

 

You’d think Seattle had teleported into the bottom of Niagara Falls based on some of the commentary in here.

 

 

Stats don't tell the whole story.

 

We could have a wetter than normal month that was dry on most days... and a drier than normal month that was wet on most days.   We could have a gloomy month that ends up warmer than normal due to warm overnight lows.    Devil is in the details.

 

The number of days with rain is by far the most meaningful stat to me in rating a month.     We are at 15 out of 21 days here so far this month.   Normal for June is 12 days with measureable precip.   We had 12 days in a row with rain... that is the source of the complaints from some.   Not that it matters.    Just giving you some background.     Its also common for June rain to come in extended streaks around here.

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Why are we talking about this again?    :rolleyes:

 

Statistically this will be a pretty normal June in the Seattle area... actually probably a little warmer and drier than normal by time its over.

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Just talking weather.

 

We should talk weather... and not endlessly about other people's preferences and perceptions.  At least the weather changes.

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