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6 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

00z Euro looking much better than the GFS and especially the GEM in the 7-10 day range 

The GFS just will not bite. Instead of flattening the ridge, it just settles in right on top of us. When the GFS is this stubborn, it is correct in my experience. It has been walking all over the Euro lately. 

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9 hours ago, The Blob said:

Remember the thunder we had in June 2020? That was a good time.

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I remember working out at the golf course during a thunderstorm, I was mowing greens and was up around green #5 which was about the furthest away from the pro shop or the maintenance shop, I stopped mowing when it got intense and hoped the tree I was under didn’t get hit. The golfers however…They acted like it was a 70 degree sunny day and didn’t stop at all. It was either in 1998 or 1999. 

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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0.27” since midnight. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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7 hours ago, DJ Droppin said:

1:22 AM Radar Update

Very heavy rain just southwest of Seattle

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That looks like bright banding. Must be snowing aloft.

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4 minutes ago, Phil said:

Winter is probably over here. :( Nothing but upper 60s/low 70s going forward. PUKE.

I had at least my quota for snow so I'm not a disappointed customer. ;)

Not bad too since since it didn't really start snow until half way into the winter.

Can all of these days have lightEning on them? Time for booms, bees and booze. 

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Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 16
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 

Severe storms: 2

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https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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27 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said:

time to move? when is school over?? are we invited to graduation?

Maybe, in a year, and yes. 

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30 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

I had at least my quota for snow so I'm not a disappointed customer. ;)

Not bad too since since it didn't really start snow until half way into the winter.

Can all of these days have lightEning on them? Time for booms, bees and booze. 

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There’ll be stretches in the summer where every day will have convective chances. It’s the only way we get rainfall in the warm season, minus the occasional tropical system.

Unless we get caught under a death ridge, of course. Then it’s just hot and miserable.

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I have absolutely no memory of this, but apparently it snowed on this date last year... Facebook remembered.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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25 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

Just another sunny day here in the Desert NW. .03” in the bucket on the day. GFS not caving. 

Of course PDX is currently +1.81 for the water year.   So a normal rainy season based on climo would have been drier.

Luckily for you... this has been a wetter than normal rainy season.   

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19 hours ago, BLI snowman said:

Cooler temps with periodic +EPO and storm systems is the biggest thing.

That's been the big hurdle. Even with a plethora of Ninas, the problem with the 2014-present patterns is that they have either been blocky and bone dry, usually on the warm side but occasionally cold as well, or they have been warm/wet. And then with a large percentage of our precip coming from warm fronts and tightly focused ARs with sharp gradients. 

Cold onshore flow has been MIA more often than not, particularly in the critical spring months. Hell, we still really haven't even seen any since the last week of December.

I've lived at ~500 feet in Southern Snohomish County (Mountlake Terrace and now South Everett) since 2015 and it's definitely been noticeable how many fewer cold onshore flow/CZ snow patterns we've had than I expected. I've still managed a pretty decent amount of average snowfall, but there has been almost none without some form of continental/arctic influence.

Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I have absolutely no memory of this, but apparently it snowed on this date last year... Facebook remembered.

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Lol…..that happens a lot to me now days! 
 

Nice little shower overhead currently (thought I heard some hail as well).  
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1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

Of course PDX is currently +1.81 for the water year.   So a normal rainy season based on climo would have been drier.

Luckily for you... this has been a wetter than normal rainy season.   

We'll be below normal for March after today. We were well below normal in February. We'll be down on the water year soon enough. If our ''wet pattern'' is 1/2'' in 10 days in March, we're screwed.

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3 hours ago, RentonHillTC said:

time to move? when is school over?? are we invited to graduation?

Sounds like heaven to me. I very much dislike mid March thru April here. The rest of the year I love. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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11 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

We'll be below normal for March after today. We were well below normal in February. We'll be down on the water year soon enough. If our ''wet pattern'' is 1/2'' in 10 days in March, we're screwed.

You can't be screwed when its been a wetter than normal rainy season.    PDX is also less an inch from normal for 2022.   Pretty close to climo overall.   

Precip anomalies ebb and flow... its was a little wetter than normal and recently its been a little drier than normal.    But nothing significant in the big picture.    April will be probably be wetter than normal again.    Way too many dire warnings given the fact that we are talking about minor deviations from climo.  

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27 minutes ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

We'll be below normal for March after today. We were well below normal in February. We'll be down on the water year soon enough. If our ''wet pattern'' is 1/2'' in 10 days in March, we're screwed.

March isn't the last wet month! Unless last Spring wants to repeat. lol

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 16
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 

Severe storms: 2

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

You can't be screwed when its been a wetter than normal rainy season.    PDX is also less an inch from normal for 2022.   Pretty close to climo overall.   

Precip anomalies ebb and flow... its was a little wetter than normal and recently its been a little drier than normal.    But nothing significant in the big picture.    April will be probably be wetter than normal again.    Way too many dire warnings given the fact that we are talking about minor deviations from climo.  

It hasn’t really been what we need to

end the long term drought, but in NW Oregon precip has been near to above average for the water year. Not a disaster. Could have ended up better, but doesn’t look like this spring will repeat the driest spring on record trope of last year. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

It hasn’t really been what we need to

end the long term drought, but in NW Oregon precip has been near to above average for the water year. Not a disaster. Could have ended up better, but doesn’t look like this spring will repeat the driest spring on record trope of last year. 

Good news is that NW Oregon (including the Portland area) is no longer in a drought at all now.

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0.48” of rain on the day. Just had a very intense shower. 43 degrees.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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11 minutes ago, 1000'NorthBend said:

Correct. In fact, Oregon is worse off in March 2022 than March 2021. 

March 9, 2021:

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March 8, 2022:

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2 of the last 3 Februaries didn't snow in Klamath Falls. That dark red doesn't surprise me.

It did at least still snow in Feb-Mar 2021, a little bit in portions. 

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 16
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 

Severe storms: 2

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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1 hour ago, Joshua Lake Oswego said:

We'll be below normal for March after today. We were well below normal in February. We'll be down on the water year soon enough. If our ''wet pattern'' is 1/2'' in 10 days in March, we're screwed.

We are at 1.36" through the first 75 days of the year when normal would be 15"

So it could be worse 🙂 

We are looking at the driest Jan - March on record by a large margin. 

Also going back through the records (120 years) we have never had a year where Jan, Feb, March all came in at under 1" of precip. This year will be the first unless we get a surprise storm that the models aren't showing yet. 

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7 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

We are at 1.36" through the first 75 days of the year when normal would be 15"

So it could be worse 🙂 

We are looking at the driest Jan - March on record by a large margin. 

Also going back through the records (120 years) we have never had a year where Jan, Feb, March all came in at under 1" of precip. This year will be the first unless we get a surprise storm that the models aren't showing yet. 

Very impressive.  Really been some crazy drought stats coming from down there in California the past few years. 

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1 minute ago, jcmcgaffey said:

Very impressive.  Really been some crazy drought stats coming from down there in California the past few years. 

There are still some normally wet areas of California that have received 0.0" precip so far this year. San Jose is sitting at a whopping .05" for 2022

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29 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

We are at 1.36" through the first 75 days of the year when normal would be 15"

So it could be worse 🙂 

We are looking at the driest Jan - March on record by a large margin. 

Also going back through the records (120 years) we have never had a year where Jan, Feb, March all came in at under 1" of precip. This year will be the first unless we get a surprise storm that the models aren't showing yet. 

AR season isn't totally done yet. Maybe towards the end but I remember a few great ones in 2014 about this time.

Ashland, KY Weather

'23-'24 Winter

Snowfall - 5.50"
First freeze: 11/1 (32)
Minimum: 2 on 1/17

Measurable snows: 4
Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19)

Thunders: 16
1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15
3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 

Severe storms: 2

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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2 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said:

AR season isn't totally done yet. Maybe towards the end but I remember a few great ones in 2014 about this time.

During the drought years of 2011-2016 March would usually save us from the terrible Jan and Feb's, this year not so much. Maybe April will be a barrage of cut off lows and at least green us up going into summer. 

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