May Winter Continue 2022 PNW

[MossMan]

Be careful all you storm chasers. 

[Brian_in_Leavenworth]

Several April records broken in Eastern WA.

[MV_snow]

4 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Today is the 4th day since April 8th without precip in North Bend.   Pretty amazing run of wet days that will go for at least another week (to get to a month).   Its usually good to get this out of the way early in the warm season.   It never keeps up this pace.    Even in 2010... 30 days was as long as it could go but that was mid May through mid June. 

Nice thing about this stetch... 3 of the 4 dry days have fallen on Sunday.    

We have gotten a decent amount of sun here despite the troughy pattern and rain most days. This time of year, I actually prefer deep troughs with the showers and sunbreaks vs. marine layer days or warm front drizzle. But I would not complain about a stronger ridge for a few days at this point either.

[Cascadia_Wx]

Nice evening out. Mostly cloudy and 57. Love the smell in the air on the evenings of mild spring days with rain on the way.

[Phil]

SNOW

 

[The Blob]

Finally got my raspberry bed done. The days that have been nice and that I've been awake for kind of remind me of 2018.

[TT-SEA]

12 minutes ago, MV_snow said:

We have gotten a decent amount of sun here despite the troughy pattern and rain most days. This time of year, I actually prefer deep troughs with the showers and sunbreaks vs. marine layer days or warm front drizzle. But I would not complain about a stronger ridge for a few days at this point either.

Definitely... deep troughs are not bad.  Regardless when I see stretch of 30 days with rain almost every day then I know a pattern change is coming.   

[SilverFallsAndrew]

16 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Be careful all you storm chasers. 

Rest in power 

[Deweydog]

Ruth!!!

[TacomaWaWx]

1 minute ago, Deweydog said:

Ruth!!!

You saw the ending of Ozark huh (promise I won’t give any spoilers out to anyone)

[Deweydog]

2 minutes ago, TacomaWaWx said:

You saw the ending of Ozark huh (promise I won’t give any spoilers out to anyone)

Yup. Trying to keep it ambiguous.

Very appropriate ending though.

[Thunder98]

49 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Be careful all you storm chasers. 

RIP

[snow_wizard]

1 hour ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Several April records broken in Eastern WA.

Impressive stuff!

[snow_wizard]

12 minutes ago, Thunder98 said:

RIP

The interesting thing about the pic is it leaves you wondering if they knew were going to die when they took it.  It almost looks like it.  Haunting.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Gfs sux 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The interesting thing about the pic is it leaves you wondering if they knew were going to die when they took it.  It almost looks like it.  Haunting.

In retrospect it is haunting, but I don’t think they knew.

[Thunder98]

It’s even more heartbreaking that all three were college Meteorologist students. The youngest victim was only 19 and the other two were in there 20’s. Very tragic.
 

https://abc7chicago.com/three-storm-chasers-killed-ou-meteorology-students-oklahoma-crash-teen/11809244/

[Phil]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Gfs sux 

The more I look at it, the more I think the GFS is on dope. Again.

The way it handles the Aleutian TPV between hr108 and hr144 is reminiscent of what it was doing a month ago in the GOA. I’ll wager a hefty sum it doesn’t get absorbed west like that.

[Meatyorologist]

7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Gfs sux 

Nice through hr170, then goes nuts with the ridging. Would rather be good in the short range and bad in the long range than the other way around.

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Nice through hr170, then goes nuts with the ridging. Would rather be good in the short range and bad in the long range than the other way around.

We can have something other than cold troughing for a few days... its going to be OK.   

[TT-SEA]

20 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The interesting thing about the pic is it leaves you wondering if they knew were going to die when they took it.  It almost looks like it.  Haunting.

They were just goofing around there... they shared that pic before the crash.  They did not know they were about to die there.   Hydroplaning in heavy rain and got hit by a semi.     One minute you are here and the next minute you are gone.   

[Phil]

The GEFS and CMC solutions make a lot more sense to me w/re to the AL/TPV.

The GFS operational sticks out like a sore thumb. I think we’ve been here before.

[Mr Marine Layer]

1 hour ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Several April records broken in Eastern WA.

❄ ❄ ⛸ cold 

[snow_wizard]

The GFS certainly hints that things may get nicer for week two.  The EPS also shows the EPO coming down substantially.  We shall see.

[snow_wizard]

13 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

Nice through hr170, then goes nuts with the ridging. Would rather be good in the short range and bad in the long range than the other way around.

Aren't we to the time of year people want ridging though?  As for me I want a big fat GOA ridge with cool / fairly dry NW flow over the NW. We have had plenty of rain and mountain snow up here.  Same old story I guess.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Aren't we to the time of year people want ridging though?  As for me I want a big fat GOA ridge with cool / fairly dry NW flow over the NW. We have had plenty of rain and mountain snow up here.  Same old story I guess.

Not all people.    Some would be happy with rain every day.   

[snow_wizard]

11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

They were just goofing around there... they shared that pic before the crash.  They did not know they were about to die there.   Hydroplaning in heavy rain and got hit by a semi.     One minute you are here and the next minute you are gone.   

Horrible.  In that case you are most certainly right.  It is amazing how tenuous our existence really is.

[Phil]

4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Aren't we to the time of year people want ridging though?  As for me I want a big fat GOA ridge with cool / fairly dry NW flow over the NW. We have had plenty of rain and mountain snow up here.  Same old story I guess.

There is no such time of year.

But if I had to choose it would be spring.

[snow_wizard]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Not all people.    Some would be happy with rain every day.   

Just mind blowing to me.  To me March and April can be almost unbearable if the winter gloom hangs on.  At least this year we had some big time below normal temps and some breaks to go with it.

[Meatyorologist]

I just really can't bother right now, it's not worth it.

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I just really can't bother right now, it's not worth it.

Late night preference battles for ever and ever.

[snow_wizard]

3 minutes ago, Phil said:

Late night preference battles for ever and ever.

For me colder and drier than normal about 90% of the time.  The other 10% can be cold and wet.

[Meatyorologist]

This is from four of the coldest days this month.

[Deweydog]

18 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Aren't we to the time of year people want ridging though?  As for me I want a big fat GOA ridge with cool / fairly dry NW flow over the NW. We have had plenty of rain and mountain snow up here.  Same old story I guess.

[TT-SEA]

15 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

 

 

 

This is from four of the coldest days this month.

Lots of bird poop and moss in the last pic!     I am guessing this will bother Matt... since he expressed concern over Randy's dirt spilling a little over the edges of the tarp he laid down in the driveway.   

[Meatyorologist]

21 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Aren't we to the time of year people want ridging though?  As for me I want a big fat GOA ridge with cool / fairly dry NW flow over the NW. We have had plenty of rain and mountain snow up here.  Same old story I guess.

Troughing this time of year is around 60 and more sunny than not, with varying amounts of convective activity. Stellar, incredible weather. Fundamentally different than Nov-Mar troughing.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Meatyorologist said:

Troughing this time of year is around 60 and more sunny than not, with varying amounts of convective activity. Stellar, incredible weather. Fundamentally different than Nov-Mar troughing.

If you live near the water... not so much inland.   As I assume you know.  

[Meatyorologist]

3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

If you live near the water... not so much inland.   As I assume you know.  

I guess we have fundamentally different experiences between identical weather systems based on our climate. And, actually, I think you'd know your local microclimate better than I would. I'm sure you can read a basic regional weather chart and determine how the day will go around North Bend better than I can because you've been living there for a couple decades now.

[Phil]

6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

If you live near the water... not so much inland.   As I assume you know.  

Anything is preferable to a death ridge.

No convection, disappearing snow, wildfire smoke, dying vegetation, and heat stroke.  

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said:

I guess we have fundamentally different experiences between identical weather systems based on our climate. And, actually, I think you'd know your local microclimate better than I would. I'm sure you can read a basic regional weather chart and determine how the day will go around North Bend better than I can because you've been living there for a couple decades now.

There is a sweet spot over Seattle during warm season troughing.    I wouldn't mind troughing as much if lived in Seattle.   Of course there are many other trade offs involved.

[Phil]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

There is a sweet spot over Seattle during warm season troughing.    I wouldn't mind troughing as much if lived in Seattle.   Of course there are many other trade offs involved.

Graffiti and traffic?

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

Anything is preferable to a death ridge.

No convection, disappearing snow, wildfire smoke, dying vegetation, and heat stroke.  

You guys call everything that is not cold troughing a death ridge.     It loses its meaning entirely. 

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Phil said:

Graffiti and traffic?

And very crowded.    I swear my blood pressure goes up every time I go to Seattle.   And it goes down when I get to Issaquah on the way back.   

[Phil]

6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

And very crowded.    I swear my blood pressure goes up every time I go to Seattle.   And it goes down when I get to Issaquah on the way back.   

I hate concrete jungles. City noise, traffic, pollution, no stars, trees, or wildlife. Yuck.

Just not healthy or natural to have so many people crammed together like that, imo. NYC found that out the hard way in April 2020. 

[TT-SEA]

Regardless of the other issues... Seattle is consistently the sunniest and driest place in the area during warm season troughs.    I completely understand the different perspective of someone living there.     Bainbridge Island is also in that sweet spot.     And that is another world compared to Seattle.    I could handle living there.  

[Phil]

1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Regardless of the other issues... Seattle is consistently the sunniest and driest place in the area during warm season troughs.    I completely understand the different perspective of someone living there.     Bainbridge Island is also in that sweet spot.     And that is another world compared to Seattle.    I could handle living there.  

I think you’d be in heaven out here during the summer. Seldom drops below 70°F, and the sun is too strong for low clouds to hold, even with onshore flow.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

I think you’d be in heaven out here during the summer. Seldom drops below 70°F, and the sun is too strong for low clouds to hold, even with onshore flow.

Probably too swampy and buggy for me.     

[TT-SEA]

15 minutes ago, Phil said:

I hate concrete jungles. City noise, traffic, pollution, no stars, trees, or wildlife. Yuck.

Just not healthy or natural to have so many people crammed together like that, imo. NYC found that out the hard way in April 2020. 

But obviously lots of people love living in big cities... NYC included.    

[Phil]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

But obviously lots of people love living in big cities... NYC included.    

My sister is one of them. I’ll never understand it.

[Meatyorologist]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Regardless of the other issues... Seattle is consistently the sunniest and driest place in the area during warm season troughs.    I completely understand the different perspective of someone living there.     Bainbridge Island is also in that sweet spot.     And that is another world compared to Seattle.    I could handle living there.  

Of course don't let that fact fool you, I am more partial than not to clouds. I would rather have 365 days of clouds than 356 days of sun. Neither is preferable of course...a healthy mix is good. In fact the happiest time of year for me is June through September, when we see the most sun.