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PNW December 2022 - Part II


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4 minutes ago, Doinko said:

What do the temps on Thursday/Friday look like for Portland and Seattle according to thd 06z control?

It seems like it might have an issue with temps because this would be pretty insane... but it trended colder so that is the takeaway for me which is a slower warm up.  

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2 minutes ago, dhoffine said:

I got to bed with 10+ inches planned by the NWS, I wake up and now its hardly anything until Tuesday now and that's cut in half... why do they change those numbers so D**n much?

I have a gut feeling my area will be moisture starved until later next week. I might not have anything on the ground until then. But eventually everything will be snowy for most of us. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

It seems like it might have an issue with temps because this would be pretty insane... but it trended colder so that is the takeaway for me which is a slower warm up.  

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Back to back maxes in the teens in Portland? Wow. Looks like some extremely strong east winds as well

32 in Eugene as well... Could it happen?

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4 minutes ago, dhoffine said:

I got to bed with 10+ inches planned by the NWS, I wake up and now its hardly anything until Tuesday now and that's cut in half... why do they change those numbers so D**n much?

They said 10 inches tonight?    No model has shown anything remotely close to that.    Even in the heart of the c-zone near the I-90 corridor it looks like 2-3 inches tonight.    You could definitely get 10 inches on Tuesday though.  

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18 minutes ago, TeacherLori said:

Not gonna lie; was disappointed to wake up this morning and see that our predicted snowfall was pushed back from 8am to 3pm. Is this thing gonna happen or not? (And why do I spend so much time here, combing the forum, instead of doing other productive things??😆🤣)itr

More fun to grade the ECMF and the GFS than papers.

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

They said 10 inches tonight?    No model has shown anything remotely close to that.    Even in the heart of the c-zone near the I-90 corridor it looks like 2-3 inches tonight.    You could definitely get 10 inches on Tuesday though.  

Tonight was 2-4, was just saying 10 inches for the whole event tonight through Wednesday.

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1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

Gfs shows us staying all snow here still. About the same as the last run with the low placement. At this point I’d just really like to know if this’ll happen or not but I won’t until the event happens probably good times. 

Hoping the South Sound does well. I selfishly want the NAM solution but that would be pretty dry for everyone.

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Just now, dhoffine said:

Tonight was 2-4, was just saying 10 inches for the whole event tonight through Wednesday.

10 inches still looks like a good bet for your area.   I just think you are probably too far south for the c-zone tonight.    

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7 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I have a gut feeling my area will be moisture starved until later next week. I might not have anything on the ground until then. But eventually everything will be snowy for most of us. 

I think you will be pleasant surprised.   The GFS and ECMWF shows you getting a decent amount of snow on Tuesday.   Get that plow ready!  

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4 minutes ago, Cloud said:

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I still have maybe a half to an inch of snow depth from four days ago. I decided to place my board where the indent shows (i.e. a snow hole where the board was) rather than eyeballing and double checking the spot like I usually do.

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

Yep the south sound is not out of the game yet. I’m just going to try and hope for the best with snow tonight and hopefully Tuesday works out. 

Need the ECMWF to shift a little south on the 12Z run... which I think will happen.

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1 minute ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Low of 35 here which is chillier than I expected with the cloud cover. Going to be fun tracking the arctic front to the north the next few days.

South of 46N all eyes have now turned to the mid range and just how juicy that will be. Also potential cool down around New Years. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

I think you will be pleasant surprised.   The GFS and ECMWF shows you getting a decent amount of snow on Tuesday.   Get that plow ready!  

I’m hoping we get at least enough to cover the ground today as well! Not holding my breath though. 

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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GFS is super aggressive with the low level CAA Wednesday night and early Thursday morning.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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12Z GFS significantly delaying the warm up and overrunning event from its 00Z run.    This trend is across all the models now except the ICON.   I think it stays dry everywhere until Friday.

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

Need the ECMWF to shift a little south on the 12Z run... which I think will happen.

I’m not getting my hopes up even if it does shift the low back to where the 00z run was. It’s going to be really close for anyone south of Seattle…probably won’t know until we actually see the storm moving in real time. 

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4 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

Yep the south sound is not out of the game yet. I’m just going to try and hope for the best with snow tonight and hopefully Tuesday works out. 

I’ve got an 8 am follow up appointed for my windshield being replaced in my 4Runner before my road-trip.  Sensors were all out of wack so they have to redo.  Hopefully this appointment won’t be impacted.  

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1 hour ago, FroYoBro said:

Some chilly rain moving into the Portland area this morning. 38 degrees with light rain here. 
 

I’m ready for another day of pathetic model riding! 

34f and drizzle now.  Temp has remained mostly constant all night.  33f at 9pm last night. 

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2 minutes ago, Doinko said:

Euro too. It thinks PDX will advect into the teens and stay there all day

I have a hard time believing that, but who knows. Would be fantastic if it happened. I think pulling off hood #s while avoiding a true regional upper level blast is a best case scenario for the rest of winter and posterity. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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