Niko Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 A few of the 12Z runs are showing the Low pressure area retrograding back through lower Michigan on Thursday and adding some strength to it. A surprise storm perhaps???!!! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE Wisconsin Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 We got a quick burst of snow here in SE WI that amounted to about 2-3 inches. But the sun is out now and it is starting to disappear. March snow will never last very long around here. None of the area cross-country ski trails will be groomed and reopen because of this snow. Might have to make a trip up to the UP before the end of March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgeek Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Okay, that is enough snow for me this season. Spring fever/t-storm fever starting to kick in! Hoping for a more eventful year than last. Only 1 notable storm hit here last year and it was a nasty hail storm that hit in the morning JUST to my south (luckily). Everything else died on the doorstep. It is pretty crazy how timing is off just enough to where storms lose heating and intensity right as they approach this area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Sunshine peeking through those clouds, but quite chilly w current temp @ 35F. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 This doesn't bode well for the southern Plains! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 This doesn't bode well for the southern Plains! My location in Central Nebraska is not that far north of the elevated colors. The many storm misses last fall and this winter, rain and snow, looks like it will come back to haunt our region. Gosh I hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 My location in Central Nebraska is not that far north of the elevated colors. The many storm misses last fall and this winter, rain and snow, looks like it will come back to haunt our region. Gosh I hope I'm wrong.Sure hope the later half of March delivers when the cold tries to push back bc when April arrives, so will the early season warmth...maybe even heat down by the TX Panhandle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 You know its getting bad when GOES satellite is picking up on flying Dust in KS...no bueno...I smell an inferno coming this summer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 My air conditioning and water bills will be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig-OmahaWX Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 The 12z EURO at the end has a nice sized trough coming in Quote 2018-2019 Snowfall Totals So Far : 59.5" For More Winter Weather Forecasts for 2017-2018 : https://www.facebook.com/snowdayweather/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajohn Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 You know its getting bad when GOES satellite is picking up on flying Dust in KS...no bueno...I smell an inferno coming this summer...And Nebraskans on this forum always say nothing ever shows up on Radar in their parts..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 And Nebraskans on this forum always say nothing ever shows up on Radar in their parts.....They're wrong. We get plenty of virga returns and bird migrations on radar. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 and here are the advisories as I expected. NOAA: Winter Weather AdvisoryURGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENational Weather Service Detroit/Pontiac MI400 PM EST Tue Mar 6 2018...ACCUMULATING SNOW TONIGHT AND INTO WEDNESDAY...MIZ061>063-068>070-075-070915-/O.NEW.KDTX.WW.Y.0009.180307T0000Z-180307T1800Z/Genesee-Lapeer-St. Clair-Livingston-Oakland-Macomb-Washtenaw-Including the cities of Flint, Lapeer, Port Huron, Howell,Pontiac, Warren, and Ann Arbor400 PM EST Tue Mar 6 2018...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO1 PM EST WEDNESDAY...* WHAT...Snow, with peak rates up to half an inch per hour. Total snow accumulations of 2 to 4 inches are expected with isolated 5 inch totals possible.* WHERE...Genesee, Lapeer, St. Clair, Livingston, Oakland, Macomb and Washtenaw Counties.* WHEN...From 7 PM this evening to 1 PM EST Wednesday.* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Plan on slippery road conditions, including during the morning commute on Wednesday. Be prepared for reduced visibilities at times.PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...A Winter Weather Advisory for snow means periods of snow willcause primarily travel difficulties. Be prepared for snow coveredroads and limited visibilities, and use caution while driving. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Clouds have already lowered and thicken. Temps are falling and it smells like snow out there. Very likely to break that 60"+ mark in the Detroit Metro area this Winter. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 6, 2018 Report Share Posted March 6, 2018 Round 2: More accumulating snow tomorrow afternoon into Thursday night for SEMI..... NOAA: Forecast gets even trickier Wednesday afternoon through Thursdaynight as the secondary upper low stalls and wobbles around southernMI with the remnants of the surface low elongating into a troughthat will then pivot over Mid MI Wednesday night and sweep backsouth through the area on Thursday. We could be looking at anotherround of accumulating snowfall on the order of 2-5 inches fromThursday 00Z-18Z. Low confidence forecast at this point as it alldepends on where the wobbling upper low sets up, where the surfacetrough stalls and pivots, and potential strength of a trowal. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Gfs and Canadian both showing some snow for Saturday night for parts of the area. Something to keep an eye on. Looks pretty weak right now but could be a couple inches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Here is video of the fire around the McCook NE area yesterday afternoon that caused damages and evacuations. It is a town of over 7000 in Southwest Nebraska. The dry conditions are already a major concern and it is only March. My area is about 80 miles northeast of this location. http://www.knopnews2.com/content/news/City-of-Mccook-evacuating-residents--476032833.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 It's a bit chilly (26F) this morning and with a slight dusting of snow overnight, mother nature just wants to remind us that winter is still holding on. Are you ready for a brief taste of Spring??? I sure am and I'm looking forward to possible 60's later next week/weekend. Like I said before, it won't last long but at least we'll be able to enjoy some warmer weather. Overnight 00z GEFS continue to illustrate the "brief" warm up during the 15th-18th ish period (more so across the Plains), then its back to a BN pattern with a couple back-to-back storms systems late next weekend and then around the Spring Solstice. The Spring Solstice storm may have a wintry side to it, but I'm not quite sure where it sets up just yet. A hard cutter is likely late next weekend. March is certainly behaving like a wild one that I was expecting it to be. Nonetheless, at least it isn't boring (unless your in NE of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Here is video of the fire around the McCook NE area yesterday afternoon that caused damages and evacuations. It is a town of over 7000 in Southwest Nebraska. The dry conditions are already a major concern and it is only March. My area is about 80 miles northeast of this location. http://www.knopnews2.com/content/news/City-of-Mccook-evacuating-residents--476032833.htmlThat's just terrible bud, not a good sign at all...and there isn't much relief over the next 10 days. The one storm that might produce some precip in the forseeable future may be the Spring Solstice system I'm expecting to develop. In any case, this area will likely be an inferno during the warm season and I can hear the media hype already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 That's just terrible bud, not a good sign at all...and there isn't much relief over the next 10 days. The one storm that might produce some precip in the forseeable future may be the Spring Solstice system I'm expecting to develop. In any case, this area will likely be an inferno during the warm season and I can hear the media hype already.McCook is in an area of Southwest Nebraska that is very hilly, so when a fire begins it goes up and down these hills and canyons. Fortunately where I live we are almost completely flat with irrigation covering the entire area with some of the best farmland and soil in the world. I talked with my father-in-law and he said grain prices have been going up recently with predictions of a hot and dry summer in parts of the wheat and corn belt. That will eventually translate to higher food prices. Lose - lose situation for many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 McCook is in an area of Southwest Nebraska that is very hilly, so when a fire begins it goes up and down these hills and canyons. Fortunately where I live we are almost completely flat with irrigation covering the entire area with some of the best farmland and soil in the world. I talked with my father-in-law and he said grain prices have been going up recently with predictions of a hot and dry summer in parts of the wheat and corn belt. That will eventually translate to higher food prices. Lose - lose situation for many. Hedge your bets and buy some calls on grains! Indeed, its def an issue in terms of pricing, but hopefully the rest of the eastern Ag belt can make up for some of the anticipated crop losses this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Hedge your bets and buy some calls on grains! Indeed, its def an issue in terms of pricing, but hopefully the rest of the eastern Ag belt can make up for some of the anticipated crop losses this season.I'm hoping Lincoln is too far East to be lumped in with the "dry and hot" crowd. FWIW, the dry line is normally to our West, the farthest East it goes is usually Grand Island-ish, so I still have hope on having a non-droughty Summer. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Gonna say adios to what I believe will be our last snowcover of the season today. Good riddance, Winter of 2017-2018. 26.6*F. Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 I'm hoping Lincoln is too far East to be lumped in with the "dry and hot" crowd. FWIW, the dry line is normally to our West, the farthest East it goes is usually Grand Island-ish, so I still have hope on having a non-droughty Summer.What we hope for here is the dry line can be in Eastern Colorado, Western KS/NE and storms can fire as it moves east in the overnight hours. Even in some of our driest years, we can get drenching thunderstorms. Hard to predict and not everyone benefits. Summer of 1988 for example, most of the Plains and Midwest suffered, but here we benefited from timely nighttime rains that others didn't receive so it can go both ways I assume. Maybe things will flip positively, but not holding my breath. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Back to looking kind of like winter here. just under 2" of new snow over night. It is the kind that stick to the side of the trees and unlike yesterdays morning snow cover today's is also on the road and driveway. Temperature here is now 26° Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minny_Weather Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 What we hope for here is the dry line can be in Eastern Colorado, Western KS/NE and storms can fire as it moves east in the overnight hours. Even in some of our driest years, we can get drenching thunderstorms. Hard to predict and not everyone benefits. Summer of 1988 for example, most of the Plains and Midwest suffered, but here we benefited from timely nighttime rains that others didn't receive so it can go both ways I assume. Maybe things will flip positively, but not holding my breath.Yeah, exactly. Predictions of a dry, hot Summer don't mean that convection isn't still possible. It's still possible to have a good severe season with an overall dry Spring/Summer. Last Summer was TOO wet, imo. The floods shut down the road I take to get to Milford. 1 Quote Formerly *ahem*: LNK_Weather, TOL_Weather, FAR_Weather, MSP_Weather, IMoveALot_Weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 NOAA:Accumulating snow is expected on Thursday, with accumulations of 2 to4 inches.Winter Wonderland outside. Picked up couple of inches last night. Temp @ 31F. It stays quite cold and gets colder still by next week. Cant wait for Spring! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 EC is getting crushed. NYC is forecasted at 12"+. Ironically, Boston doesn't do as well. Philly does very good as well. NYC is the big winner along the i-95 corridor as for now. I cant wait to see that totals, especially, Winter snowfall totals for the season. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FV-Mike Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 EC is getting crushed. NYC is forecasted at 12"+. Ironically, Boston doesn't do as well. Philly does very good as well. NYC is the big winner along the i-95 corridor as for now. I cant wait to see that totals, especially, Winter snowfall totals for the season.central park currently reporting rain. I think Philly has the best chance to score the high totals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 central park currently reporting rain. I think Philly has the best chance to score the high totals.It should go over to all snow soon and become heavy at times. Both locales do very well. This is a great storm for them. Second in a week. Quite impressive. Quinn will do the damage, that's for sure. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEJeremy Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 looks like the next big system for around the 10th has turned into a nothing burger, then it's quiet around here until the 16th or 17th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 looks like the next big system for around the 10th has turned into a nothing burger, then it's quiet around here until the 16th or 17th.Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Models have suddenly gone very mild/warm, at least briefly, in the extended period. Last night's Euro went 60s, and now the GFS has this. 3 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Models have suddenly gone very mild/warm, at least briefly, in the extended period. Last night's Euro went 60s, and now the GFS has this. gfs_t2max_iowa_228.pngThat's gonna be nice, but what won't be so nice is what is lurking right after that into the following week. Today's 12z GEFS just threw a wrench into the warmth next weekend and usher back the cold quicker. #RelentlessMarch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 if we hit 70 on the Friday of March Madness, man that would be sweet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud2380 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Euro continues to show snow move into central Iowa Saturday night and then completely stop and fall apart without hitting eastern Iowa. It's showing a few inches for Des Moines on the 12z run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Models have suddenly gone very mild/warm, at least briefly, in the extended period. Last night's Euro went 60s, and now the GFS has this. gfs_t2max_iowa_228.pngBring it here please in SEMI. From I am seeing, it remains cold IMBY until all of next week w highs in the low to mid 30s and lows in the teens and 20s. UGH! Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Surprising amounts on GRR's map for this event - Thumb looks crazy - better there than mby Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 18-24" just in the past several hours in parts of NJ, 3-5" per hour rates. Literally takes nothing to get a giant snowstorm there. Winters aren't even really cold. 3 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 Boston area scores again. Scary with trees down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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