Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I appreciate your optimism, but I'll believe a cold and snowy winter when I see a cold and snowy winter. After two bad ones in a row, my expectations aren't high.Didn’t you complain non-stop about the 5 weeks of inane arctic cold we had last winter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Didn’t you complain non-stop about the 5 weeks of cold we had last winter? Keyword snowy. Feb 2019 was nothing but straight disappointment through and through. I was complaining because if it wasn't going to snow, it might as well just not be cold at all. The highlight of that month locally was the 1.9" of rain that fell in one day on February 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Keyword snowy. Feb 2019 was nothing but straight disappointment through and through. I was complaining because if it wasn't going to snow, it might as well just not be cold at all.Your opinion I guess. And as we all know those things are like omega blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I appreciate your optimism, but I'll believe a cold and snowy winter when I see a cold and snowy winter. After two bad ones in a row, my expectations aren't high. OK, I understand your last criticism, but I have to say this one is a bit unfounded. Yes, last winter was horrible for us. It was a crappy winter for many on the westside, yes. But 2017-2018, was not bad at all. We had a White Christmas and an ice storm, and then two snowstorms in February which dropped several inches on most of the city. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I appreciate your optimism, but I'll believe a cold and snowy winter when I see a cold and snowy winter. After two bad ones in a row, my expectations aren't high. Dude... last February and the first half of March was pretty much unprecedented for much of western WA in terms of snow and consistent cold. And fairly historic to south of you as well. That was just dumb luck for you... during a wicked cold pattern across most of the western US. Nature delivered in an historic way for the PNW last winter. Ask Kayla in Bozeman for her thoughts. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Nice thunderstorm back in early July 2008... Several that year that were memorable. 05/24/2008, all 3 metro counties simultaneously under SVR warnings, plus minor flooding.06/29/2008, nice lightning event, mammatus/crepuscular ray sunset I wished I could take pictures of (a couple months before my first camera).07/03/2008 yeah that was a nice late night and early AM storm, shook my apartment at 2 in the morning.08/16-17 2008, two nights/mornings back to back. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I understand why Omegaraptor hated last winter. I hated it too, even though I understand that for many areas it was historic. My personal experience with last winter didn't entail anything exciting but disappointment, but overall it was an excellent winter regionally. Just not so much in Portland. 1 Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Dude... last February and the first half of March was pretty much unprecedented for much of western WA in terms of snow and consistent cold. And fairly historic to south of you as well. That was just dumb luck for you... during a wicked cold pattern across most of the western US. Nature delivered in an historic way for the PNW last winter. Ask Kayla in Bozeman for her thoughts. There was no boating in February or March! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Dude... last February and the first half of March was pretty much unprecedented for much of western WA in terms of snow and consistent cold. And fairly historic to south of you as well. That was just dumb luck for you... during a wicked cold pattern across most of the western US. Nature delivered in an historic way for the PNW last winter. Ask Kayla in Bozeman for her thoughts. After Las Vegas got more snow than us last winter? I'm done with optimism. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised next winter, but odds are I probably won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 After Las Vegas got more snow than us last winter? I'm done with optimism. Yeah... definitely sucks to miss out on that insane 6 weeks if snow and cold is your thing. I get that. But nature absolutely unloaded on the West. It was not a dud. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 I understand why Omegaraptor hated last winter. I hated it too, even though I understand that for many areas it was historic. My personal experience with last winter didn't entail anything exciting but disappointment, but overall it was an excellent winter regionally. Just not so much in Portland.Yeah but to say he has his doubts about next winter because Mother Nature didn’t deliver snow and cold last year is pretty silly, considering the historic cold pattern that locked into the western US last February/early March and brought snow to much of the region. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Yeah but to say he has his doubts about next winter because Mother Nature didn’t deliver snow and cold last year is pretty silly, considering the historic cold pattern that locked into the western US last February/early March and brought snow to much of the region. It is, but I get the emotion behind it. I'm not going to lie and say that it was pleasant seeing 15+ inches of snow fall fifty miles north and fifty miles south of us, but I do recognize that it's probably insanely rare to be so closely screwed in a winter. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 We haven't had a wet winter since 16-17 either, even though for some reason Portland is stereotyped as a place where it rains all the time. Sacramento has had more rain than us YTD. That's depressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeinthevalley Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Good call. PDX got into the low 80s and that helped ignite the thunderstorms.Watched the initial convection start from McMinnville earlier. Maybe 10 miles north. Only 75f there. Further south it was even cooler. Position of the low probably had more influence on the initiation than actual surface temperature as the mid level moisture was present throughout the valley. The flow around the low acted as the trigger. Areas to the south were stabilized by the onshore flow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Got plenty of both lightning bugs and frequent lightning. Currently 90 degrees, feels like 95. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 We haven't had a wet winter since 16-17 either, even though for some reason Portland is stereotyped as a place where it rains all the time. Sacramento has had more rain than us YTD. That's depressing. What is your favorite weather event? That you have ever experienced? Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Lightning bugs is about 5/sec. Lightning flash is about 1 every 5 sec. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 What is your favorite weather event? That you have ever experienced? February 2014 arctic blast was pretty wonderful, as was 1/10/17. I'll finally admit to being very young. I was five years old when December 2008 happened, so I don't remember that one all too well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 February 2014 arctic blast was pretty wonderful, as was 1/10/17. I'll finally admit to being very young. I was five years old when December 2008 happened, so I don't remember that one all too well.Whoah. Even K12 is like a forum elder compared to you. This definitely clears things up a little. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 February 2014 arctic blast was pretty wonderful, as was 1/10/17. I'll finally admit to being very young. I was five years old when December 2008 happened, so I don't remember that one all too well. Wow, you're younger than me? Huh. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 One portion of our visitor this evening seems to be (maybe) re-intensifying over the Cascades. Already see heavier precipitation towards the core of the cell. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BLI snowman Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Whoah. Even K12 is like a forum elder compared to you. This definitely clears things up a little. He seems to think 2016-17 was a long time ago, so it makes sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 3rd thunderstorm day in the last 7 here. Nice!How did you do for rainfall? I ended up with about .75” here. Nice way to start the month. 0.54” at PDX which is nothing short of mind blowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 How did you do for rainfall? I ended up with about .75” here. Nice way to start the month. Only a few hundredths. Rain let up even more just to my north. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Only a few hundredths. Rain let up even more just to my north.Yeah there appeared to be a pretty sharp cutoff up there. Hopefully more shower chances the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 That’s a thick marine layer covering the south and central Willamette valley this evening. Eugene only hit 66 today. We could end up pretty socked in tomorrow. The pattern the last few weeks has felt so much more like the old school PNW summers I remember. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 How did you do for rainfall? I ended up with about .75” here. Nice way to start the month.0.54” at PDX which is nothing short of mind blowing.PDX recorded fairly low numbers on 6/26 and 6/27. This got them back up on par with the rest of the metro area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Love this cool summer day. Can we pls have these kind of cold anomalies in Dec-Jan. 1 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 NOAA July forecast. Let’s see if the warm and dry prediction for the PNW holds up. If Phil’s prediction about troughing later in the month is correct, then maybe it just has recency bias. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Not quite but I lived on the west sides of the metro almost half my life. Hillsboro from 2004-2010 and lived in Bethany from 1999-2004. Hillsboro/Forest Grove just had some nice storms and hail a little while ago.Oh sweet, didn't know you lived up here. Bethany is a really good area to live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Watched the initial convection start from McMinnville earlier. Maybe 10 miles north. Only 75f there. Further south it was even cooler. Position of the low probably had more influence on the initiation than actual surface temperature as the mid level moisture was present throughout the valley. The flow around the low acted as the trigger. Areas to the south were stabilized by the onshore flow.Thanks for the insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Looks like PDX will finish with a 81/60 today. Good for a +4 departure on the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deweydog Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Been a warm July... 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 My prediction was a heat wave sometime during the first half of the month.Score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakeinthevalley Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Areas to the east and north of the low center (as it approached the coast) were not under the influence of the stabilizing, westerly flow. The southerly and SE flow around the low tapped into the mid level moisture and triggered the convection over Washington county. Just like many other extreme weather events west of the Cascades, the ingredients have to come together perfectly. Even then, the results are very localized. That is what makes forecasting in this region such a challenge, in every season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted July 2, 2019 Report Share Posted July 2, 2019 Probably because some grown a** men on here act about the same.He was never that bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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