October 2019 Weather Discussion for the PNW

[snow_wizard]

PDX down to 37, DP 7 with east winds sustained at 33, gusts to 45mph. Wow.

 

SEA is also 37 with a dp of 3.  Crazy stuff.

 

I had thought PDX might drop to freezing this morning, but I think we traded some temperature drop for extreme low dp.  Places that are able to decouple tonight could have some epic low temps.

 

Meanwhile down to 36 here with a gust to 36 a bit earlier.

[Phil]

Down to 35 here, DP 4. Gusts easily in the 45-50mph range at points.

Sweetness.

[snow_wizard]

Part of me was expecting much of the east metro to be stuck in the 40s all night once the wind kicked in, with a stubborn downslope component. Maybe PDX would get lucky and eke out a 24 hour low in the 30s this evening. The efficiency of cold air delivery even with the strong winds has been impressive.

 

The WRF was spitting out some ridiculous numbers so I figured it would at least be respectable.

[Jesse]

[Phil]

Holy sh*t!

Sorry, I was just catching up on the last two pages of missed posts and the early ones were before the front moved in. Wasn’t trying to be a buzzkill troll with the event going on.

[snow_wizard]

Not saying that at all.    This winter could be like 2009-10.     There is almost no chance of a 2002-03 type winter.  

 

I looked up extreme cold events in Pullman and was surprised at how cold 2002 and 2009 were... wanted to see what those patterns looked like out of curiosity.   

 

2002 and 2009 didn't have the other incarnations of cold we have seen this month though.  This October we have cold that is more typical of La Nina years and neutral years, as well as this more Ninoesque looking incarnation.  That's pretty ironic considering we are seeing a more Ninaish look in the tropics right now.

[Jesse]

2002 and 2009 didn't have the other incarnations of cold we have seen this month though. This October we have cold that is more typical of La Nina years and neutral years, as well as this more Ninoesque looking incarnation. That's pretty ironic considering we are seeing a more Ninaish look in the tropics right now.

Yeah. This month has been extremely different from both of those months.

[Front Ranger]

Unreal.

 

I'm in Vegas, where it's just unseasonably chilly.

 

Headed back to the Arctic tundra back home tomorrow, where there should be over a foot of snow on the ground.

[snow_wizard]

Perfectly timed east wind this year.  The wind totally cleaned all of the dead fir needles off my driveway, walkway, and roof.  Clean as can be in front of the house!

[snow_wizard]

This month has been extremely different from both of those months.

 

That will be pretty evident from the 500mb composites.  Not to mention this month has been far colder average wise for most places.

[Front Ranger]

This month has been extremely different from both of those months.

Closer to 2009, though. At least big picture wise.

[Tyler Mode]

The temp dropped to 32 at 12:01 AM. I was outside when the wind picked up, it was really cool to go from calm to 15-20 mph in just a few minutes.  Temp shot up to 43, but is down to 35 now with NE wind to about 20 mph. Dewpoint is 2, my lowest in years.

[Blizzard777]

Light wind (8mph) within the last half hour and dew point down to 2

Temp has risen 4* 

frost is denied in this mix

[Phil]

[Jesse]

Closer to 2009, though. At least big picture wise.

Yes. Which did deliver some early season action.

[Phil]

2002 and 2009 didn't have the other incarnations of cold we have seen this month though. This October we have cold that is more typical of La Nina years and neutral years, as well as this more Ninoesque looking incarnation. That's pretty ironic considering we are seeing a more Ninaish look in the tropics right now.

Why do you keep saying this? It’s just not accurate.

[Jesse]

I think this was the sort of stuff Fred was talking about. Just let us enjoy our event, Daniel.

[Front Ranger]

Yes. Which did deliver some early season action.

Yep. And the cold has definitely been further west this month compared to 2009.

 

The pattern turning wet/mild by mid month would bode well, I think.

[Phil]

I think this was the sort of stuff Fred was talking about. Let us enjoy our event, Daniel.

If stating facts gets me banned, then I don’t want to post here anyway.

[GHweatherChris]

What a waste of a cold shot, good thing 11/20 is getting closer.

[TT-SEA]

Perfectly timed east wind this year. The wind totally cleaned all of the dead fir needles off my driveway, walkway, and roof. Clean as can be in front of the house!

My yard is much cleaner as well this morning.

 

Very nice... nature did yard work for me while I slept.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

SLE has been as low as 27 this morning. We made it down to 29 here. This after taking a brief detour back up to 38 when the winds arrived. 

[TT-SEA]

If stating facts gets me banned, then I don’t want to post here anyway.

 

Quit being such a princess.

Its censorship. As long as you are not personally attacking anyone... factually discussing weather and the overall pattern should not bother anyone. Even if it goes against the echo chamber of enthusiasm.

[Phil]

Its censorship. As long as you are not personally attacking anyone... factually discussing weather and the overall pattern should not bother anyone. Even if it goes against the echo chamber of enthusiasm.

I’ve always detested groupthink. Been a thorn in the side of scientific progress since the Roman era at least.

[Front Ranger]

I think the number of all-time cold monthly records set with this will end up dwarfing anything seen in the West since December 1990.

 

Probably even more impressive than what the East saw in Feb/Mar 2015.

[Front Ranger]

Its censorship. As long as you are not personally attacking anyone... factually discussing weather and the overall pattern should not bother anyone. Even if it goes against the echo chamber of enthusiasm.

Agreed.

[Jesse]

Agreed.

 

So do I, overall. But it's sort of obvious what Phil is doing this morning. 

 

This is the last post I'm making on the subject. Too much interesting weather to follow today.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Phil is still mad because our trees are bigger and more robust out here.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Down to 4 at Joseph, OR.

[Phil]

So do I, overall. But it's sort of obvious what Phil is doing this morning.

 

This is the last post I'm making on the subject. Too much interesting weather to follow today.

I’ve done absolutely nothing wrong this morning.

[TT-SEA]

I’ve always detested groupthink. Been a thorn in the side of scientific progress since the Roman era at least.

 

I just don't get it.

 

No idea how that comment you made would bother anyone. And ironically... that same person endlessly trolls people who enjoy weather they don't like. Complete double standard.

 

I will say that I am loving this weather!

[TacomaWaWx]

East wind is still rolling pretty good here in north Tacoma. Trees are de-leafed and a few big tree branches cane down last night. Beautiful sunrise but very chilly and breezy 37 with a DP of 4. Still managed to get down to 37 from 45 even with decent East winds blowing here.

[MossMan]

Boring back door blast. Did record a 2.5mph gust which was probably a 12mph gust in reality. Currently 28.9 with a DP of 23. Nice morning! Lots of frost!

[TT-SEA]

SEA is at 38 with a dewpoint of -4 right now.

 

Wind just calmed down significantly here.

[Jesse]

PDX down to 36, DP 6.

[Jesse]

Yep. And the cold has definitely been further west this month compared to 2009.

 

The pattern turning wet/mild by mid month would bode well, I think.

 

I agree with that. Sort of the next pattern change I am scanning the models for, now.

[Phil]

I just don't get it.

 

No idea how that comment you made would bother anyone. And ironically... that same person endlessly trolls people who enjoy weather they don't like. Complete double standard.

 

I will say that I am loving this weather!

I made a factual comment as I was catching up to posts I missed from yesterday. So sue me. I’m not here to appease anyone. And perhaps my natural inclination is to be contrarian to some extent. But I’m tired of having all these evil intentions assigned to me.

[Requiem]

Winds are crazy in the West Hills— I’d estimate 50 mph gusts at times.

[Jesse]

Pretty sunrise.

[Blizzard777]

What a waste of a cold shot, good thing 11/20 is getting closer.

Beginning to think 11/20 already started....or at least the engine is primed