August 2023 Weather in the PNW

[Omegaraptor]

5 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

SF = 20th century SF

Lake Forest = 20th century Reykjavik

[Phishy Wx]

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Kind of doubt we can make it through August without hitting the century mark, but if it happens it would be the first time since 2018 SLE goes through summer without hitting 100. 

2008?

[Deweydog]

8 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

2008?

Salem hit the century mark three times in 2008. Then it snowed. But it snowed more here.

Edited August 1 by Deweydog

[Phil]

4 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

We ended July this year with 0.10" which is pretty close to our decadal average. September is a month that has not been a complete loss in recent years, so I have some hope we can have some decent rainfall next month. In fact September 2019 and 2021 had about 3" of rain at SLE, which puts them in the top 15, and of course September 2013 blew away every other year with 7.05" blowing away the previous record of 4.84" from 1914. We had about 13" up here that month, almost doubling the previous monthly record. 

September will deliver this year.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Mill Creek in Salem, OR - CIRCA December 1972. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

33 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

2008?

The years that did not hit 100 at SLE this CENTURY

2018

2014

2013

2011

2005

2001

 

26 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Salem hit the century mark three times in 2008. Then it snowed. But it snowed more here.

Snowed a lot more at SLE than EUG though. Sorry TWL  

[Rubus Leucodermis]

2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

The years that did not hit 100 at SLE this CENTURY

2018

2014

2013

2011

2005

2001

 

Snowed a lot more at SLE than EUG though. Sorry TWL  

In recent winters, RDD has gotten more snow than EUG.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Going to be camping in the Washington Cascades east of Chinook Pass for several days. Hoping to catch some thunderstorm action this weekend. If I do, I will not be posting about it real-time as I will be off the grid.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

5 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

In recent winters, RDD has gotten more snow than EUG.

Is that actually true? I know it was last winter, but Eugene had 10.1" in December 2021 and 18.9" in February 2019. 

 

[the_convergence_zone]

1 hour ago, the_convergence_zone said:

I figured we would see this pop up eventually after about 2/3 of the EPS members were showing a decent rain yesterday. 00Z was more like 50/50. Hopefully the 12Z ensembles are closer to that 2/3 rainy mark again. 

Sadly the 12Z EPS backed off on the rain (~1/3 of members with > 0.1" at KSEA in that time period), so the friendly deterministic run will probably back off in the next cycle. 

[Omegaraptor]

40 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

In recent winters, RDD has gotten more snow than EUG.

Idk about EUG because of Feb 2019. But yes, Redding, despite having 100°F average July highs and date palms, has gotten more snow than some parts of the Willamette Valley in the last five winters. Pretty sure they’ve got Corvallis beat.

I was so pissed when they got 8” this Feb lmao

[Cloud]

OLM +1.1

BFI +1.3

SEA +1.4

PAE +2.4

All things considered, I’d say a reasonable July for W. WA. PAE is the warmer spot but they never hit 90. 87 was warmest day.

OLM, SEA, and BFI all ended the month with 8 consecutive negative departure days. 

[LowerGarfield]

20 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

Idk about EUG because of Feb 2019. But yes, Redding, despite having 100°F average July highs and date palms, has gotten more snow than some parts of the Willamette Valley in the last five winters. Pretty sure they’ve got Corvallis beat.

I was so pissed when they got 8” this Feb lmao

They did really well during the Snowpocalypse too.

[TT-SEA]

30 minutes ago, Cloud said:

OLM +1.1

BFI +1.3

SEA +1.4

PAE +2.4

All things considered, I’d say a reasonable July for W. WA. PAE is the warmer spot but they never hit 90. 87 was warmest day.

OLM, SEA, and BFI all ended the month with 8 consecutive negative departure days. 

I remember we discussed how much easier it will be to get colder than normal days and months after the 1991-2020 update with the averages jumping up.    And we are still increasing those averages by coming in even warmer.  

[TT-SEA]

From 1945-2012 there were just 3 years with a July as warm as this year at SEA... 1958, 1985, and 2009.    Since 2013 this July was pretty much normal.

[Front Ranger]

45 minutes ago, Cloud said:

OLM +1.1

BFI +1.3

SEA +1.4

PAE +2.4

All things considered, I’d say a reasonable July for W. WA. PAE is the warmer spot but they never hit 90. 87 was warmest day.

OLM, SEA, and BFI all ended the month with 8 consecutive negative departure days. 

Also BLI checked in with +1.0

[Front Ranger]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

From 1945-2012 there was just 3 years with a July as warm as this year at SEA... 1958, 1985, and 2009.    Since 2013 this July was pretty much normal.

12 Julys from 1945-2012 were warmer at OLM.

The update to 1991-2020 normals was a much bigger deal for SEA than OLM.

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

12 Julys from 1945-2012 were warmer at OLM.

The update to 1991-2020 normals was a much bigger deal for SEA than OLM.

The 2013-2022 average for July at SEA was 68.46.     This July finished at 68.50.    Right in line with the last decade.

 

[BLI snowman]

18 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

From 1945-2012 there was just 3 years with a July as warm as this year at SEA... 1958, 1985, and 2009.    Since 2013 this July was pretty much normal.

Like I've said, a July like 2001 might as well be the 1950s or 1850s at this point. That version of our climo is gone and not coming back anytime soon. 

Even the deified air around OLM hasn't come within two degrees of that July since 2011.

Edited August 1 by BLI snowman

[Cold Snap]

Made it down to 49 this morning again.

[TT-SEA]

Looks like SEA will end up at 80+ today.

83 here currently.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

6 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Like I've said, a July like 2001 might as well be the 1950s or 1850s at this point. That version of our climo is gone and not coming back anytime soon. 

Even the deified air around OLM hasn't come within two degrees of that July since 2011.

I agree completely. I feel like what we saw this July was essentially normal for our current climo. 

[Cloud]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Looks like SEA will end up at 80+ today.

83 here currently.

Starting out august right. By breaking the sub-80 streak.  

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

2-25-19 & that 72 hour stretch was the 2nd snowiest in the books I believe. Only Wine Dine ‘69 Big Snow was bigger which was an Arctic blizzard that dropped 3 feet like a poor-man’s Buffalo, NY.

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That event was so damaging in rural Douglas County at Loon Lake that the campground would not re-open until mid-summer 2022. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

That was quite the event. Places in Central Oregon  had 2-3' of snow, we had a two day total around 11" I believe, but were a bit north of the main action. 

Edited August 1 by SilverFallsAndrew

[TigerWoodsLibido]

2-25-19 & that 72 hour stretch was the 2nd snowiest in the books I believe. Only Wine Dine ‘69 Big Snow was bigger which was an Arctic blizzard that dropped 3 feet like a poor-man’s Buffalo, NY.
 

[Omegaraptor]

30 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

The 2013-2022 average for July at SEA was 68.46.     This July finished at 68.50.    Right in line with the last decade.

 

If you used 2013-2023 as the average… PDX would actually classify as a “hot-summer Mediterranean climate” per the Köppen system.

Portland = southern Spain and Greece!!!

[TigerWoodsLibido]

BAM! 90F

[Front Ranger]

49 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Like I've said, a July like 2001 might as well be the 1950s or 1850s at this point. That version of our climo is gone and not coming back anytime soon. 

Even the deified air around OLM hasn't come within two degrees of that July since 2011.

Thankfully, no such trend for the cold season. 

2000-present, I mean.

[Deweydog]

@Front Ranger

[TT-SEA]

35 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Thankfully, no such trend for the cold season. 

2000-present, I mean.

Jim?   Is that you?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

32 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Thankfully, no such trend for the cold season. 

2000-present, I mean.

The January thing still puzzles me. 

This past January would have been pretty mild by historical standards, but was pretty much right at normal compared to our 30 year averages. 

 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

The January thing still puzzles me. 

This past January would have been pretty mild by historical standards, but was pretty much right at normal compared to our 30 year averages. 

 

The January Jinx has to end some time.

Then again, I thought my March Jinx was going to end this year.

[Omegaraptor]

42 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Thankfully, no such trend for the cold season. 

2000-present, I mean.

 

Here's the trendline for Feb-March temps at PDX for 1990-2023. Actually a pretty pronounced cooling trend for this time of year, and this is PDX we're talking about. The station of the gods has cooled 1.5F in this timeframe on the moving average - Eugene has cooled nearly 2F!

 

Also a slight drying trend although I don't know if it's enough to be significant. 

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

 

Here's the trendline for Feb-March temps at PDX for 1990-2023. Actually a pretty pronounced cooling trend for this time of year, and this is PDX we're talking about. The station of the gods has cooled 1.5F in this timeframe on the moving average - Eugene has cooled nearly 2F!

 

Also a slight drying trend although I don't know if it's enough to be significant. 

This regime has definitely featured colder late winter and early spring weather in addition to consistently warm summers.

[Phishy Wx]

oof

 

 

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Phishy Wx said:

oof

 

 

Tonga?   

[Phishy Wx]

9 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Tonga?   

+ El Nino + ???

[Deweydog]

10 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Tonga?   

Asphalt

[Phishy Wx]

3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Asphalt

Andean asphalt is brutal

[MossMan]

3 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

Asphalt

[ChristheElohim]

Highs today August 1st

KOLM 85°

TNIS ( Nisqually) 88°

KPLU (Pierce Thun Field) 84°

North South Hill 83°

Spanaway 86

KTCM (McChord) 83°

Fort Steilacoom Park 84°

Central Lakewood 83°

Eastside Tacoma Neighborhood 83°

Downtown-Hilltop Tacoma 79°

KTIW (Tacoma-Gig Harbor Airport) 82°

Ruston Way 77°

KSEA (SeaTac) 83°

[Front Ranger]

2 hours ago, Omegaraptor said:

 

Here's the trendline for Feb-March temps at PDX for 1990-2023. Actually a pretty pronounced cooling trend for this time of year, and this is PDX we're talking about. The station of the gods has cooled 1.5F in this timeframe on the moving average - Eugene has cooled nearly 2F!

 

Also a slight drying trend although I don't know if it's enough to be significant. 

I'd guess Nov-Dec is about flat.

Just that dam* January...

[Front Ranger]

2 hours ago, Phishy Wx said:

oof

 

 

This seems legit. 

Unlike the "brutal and unbearable" US summer that some media outlets keep doom-hyping.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

The amount of random fires this summer seems off the charts though that’s just anecdotal… 3 alarm BLAZE goin on down in Silverton right now. 

Edited August 2 by SilverFallsAndrew

[TT-SEA]

12 hours ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

The winter gray/dark is dreadful, especially without snow. Even when it isn't cloudy the sun is only "diet sun" due to its angle. 

You posted this in the July thread so I quoted it over here.  I wouldn't call it dreadful.   I don't really mind much in the winter since the days are so short.   It's not like they have full sun across the rest of the northern US.   It's all "diet sun".   And we get some sun.   Long inversions are the most depressing thing to me... unless my area is above the fog.  I have grown to appreciate the soft green and mild temps of winter as opposed to the harsh brown and bitter cold that most of the country experiences.   And we travel to break it up.  But I quickly get annoyed when April and May are gloomy and cold of course.  All about correlation to daylight for me.   

[Phishy Wx]

warm but not quite top 10

 

 

[Anti Marine Layer]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

warm but not quite top 10

 

 

Chilly 26th 

[Thunder98]

WTF is happening in SA? Its winter down there! 

https://twitter.com/extremetemps/status/1686485331539820545?s=20