October 2023 Weather in the PNW

[Gradient Keeper]

00z GFS 10 Day Rainfall totals.

[Cold Snap]

Had a high of 64 today. Picked up 0.36” of rain yesterday.

[Phil]

I started a live-stream from my roof.

 

[Gradient Keeper]

35 minutes ago, Phil said:

I started a live-stream from my roof.

 

Storms?

[Doinko]

Wind is blowing pretty loudly right now

[ShawniganLake]

11 hours ago, MossMan said:

Wish I was alive to have experienced this windstorm…Though I would have needed to be nearly 20yrs older to be alive and old enough fully remember it lol.

 

Wind estimated at 150kt gusting to 170kt at Cape Blanco. that’s stronger than Hurricane Andrew in Florida. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

Had a 63/52 day Wednesday, some scattered heavy showers but most of the really heavy stuff was up toward Mount St Helens.

70/48 day yesterday, mild with east winds developing in the afternoon.

East winds intensified overnight with a mild low of just 58 so far. Looks like PDX didn’t even get below 60. Starting to look like this month is shaping up to be one of our warmer Octobers on record. All time record warmest was set just last year.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

16 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Had a 63/52 day Wednesday, some scattered heavy showers but most of the really heavy stuff was up toward Mount St Helens.

70/48 day yesterday, mild with east winds developing in the afternoon.

East winds intensified overnight with a mild low of just 58 so far. Looks like PDX didn’t even get below 60. Starting to look like this month is shaping up to be one of our warmer Octobers on record. All time record warmest was set just last year.

Well at least we had an average September and ended fire season on schedule. We all know in some sense the worm will turn. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Beautiful morning in Kennybunkport. 

[TT-SEA]

61 degrees in North Bend on this clear morning.

[LowerGarfield]

It's 43F outside and 62F inside. Turning on that heater.

[MossMan]

33 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

61 degrees in North Bend on this clear morning.

47 here. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Low of 44.1˚F here. Running the heat this morning.

[LowerGarfield]

8 hours ago, Phil said:

I started a live-stream from my roof.

 

Such a pretty day.

[TT-SEA]

Sunrise in Seattle... we are approaching the latest sunrise of the year in a couple weeks (at 7:57) which is matched again in late December after turning the clocks back in early November.

[Phishy Wx]

36.  some frost on the roof

[ShawniganLake]

42F.  High clouds moving in.  Turned the fireplace on this morning.  Myself and 1 of the kids are sick.  Fall is definitely here. 

[LowerGarfield]

9 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

42F.  High clouds moving in.  Turned the fireplace on this morning.  Myself and 1 of the kids are sick.  Fall is definitely here. 

So sorry to hear that. Thank goodness it is Friday and you'll have the weekend to rest up 

[LowerGarfield]

Looks like a hot anamoly today lol jk.

 

Taking a day off from work today. Have errands to do but enjoying a relaxed start at a coffee shop. 

[TT-SEA]

18 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said:

42F.  High clouds moving in.  Turned the fireplace on this morning.  Myself and 1 of the kids are sick.  Fall is definitely here. 

Fall is half over already!

[Deweydog]

72 days until Christmas.

438 days until Christmas 2024.

[the_convergence_zone]

1 hour ago, TT-SEA said:

Sunrise in Seattle... we are approaching the latest sunrise of the year in a couple weeks (at 7:57) which is matched again in late December after turning the clocks back in early November.

And yet there are crazies out there who think we shouldn't turn the clocks back in the fall. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Just now, the_convergence_zone said:

And yet there are crazies out there who think we shouldn't turn the clocks back in the fall. 

I think we shouldn’t turn them ahead in spring.

[the_convergence_zone]

1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I think we shouldn’t turn them ahead in spring.

If we're not going to change clocks, then we should definitely stay on standard time so that solar noon corresponds to actual noon. 

4 AM sunrises would be pretty brutal in the summer. 

[T-Town]

1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I think we shouldn’t turn them ahead in spring.

Exactly. Stay on standard time. There is talk of staying on DST which would give us 9 am sunrises in mid-winter. No thank you. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 minute ago, T-Town said:

Exactly. Stay on standard time. There is talk of staying on DST which would give us 9 am sunrises in mid-winter. No thank you. 

My own private term for standard time is “the real daylight-saving time,” since it means earlier sunrises in winter, and morning light is more important to me than evening light.

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

5 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Exactly. Stay on standard time. There is talk of staying on DST which would give us 9 am sunrises in mid-winter. No thank you. 

The sun would be up at 3 am in June. Give me the 9 am winter sunrises, winter is mostly dark anyway. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

2 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

The sun would be up at 3 am in June. Give me the 9 am winter sunrises, winter is mostly dark anyway. 

Cuts both ways. Summer is mostly light anyway.

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

4 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Cuts both ways. Summer is mostly light anyway.

Luckily, those that would make this decision mostly agree with me. 

[TT-SEA]

I like 9 p.m. sunsets in the summer.    I don't care so much about November - March since its generally dark anyways.  

[the_convergence_zone]

4 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Luckily, those that would make this decision mostly agree with me. 

History tells us that the current format is what most people at high latitudes prefer. They complain for 2 days per year and are happy the other 363. Prior attempts to remove DST have been quickly reversed. The only thing I would change is to move up "springing forward" to the first weekend in March. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

23 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

History tells us that the current format is what most people at high latitudes prefer. They complain for 2 days per year and are happy the other 363. Prior attempts to remove DST have been quickly reversed. The only thing I would change is to move up "springing forward" to the first weekend in March. 

I think compromise also plays into it. I don’t like DST, but I would rather have DST during the warmer months only than to have year-round DST. The resulting dark winter mornings of the latter would be truly depressing.

[TT-SEA]

13 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

I think compromise also plays into it. I don’t like DST, but I would rather have DST during the warmer months only than to have year-round DST. The resulting dark winter mornings of the latter would be truly depressing.

4:20 p.m. sunset is also considered depressing by many.   We can only move things around and can't change the reality that winter days are short and winter is generally dark.   

[iFred]

41 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Luckily, those that would make this decision mostly agree with me. 

I regret to inform you that those people along with you are wrong. Y'all can take my 2pm golden hours from my cold dead hands.

Also Anti-Mass is right, some of the most vocal people about DST on the west coast would complain for a couple days and probably would bitch that now it's too dark to go to school.

Great boon for seedy biki stand customers though who need that cover of darkness to purchase that 45 dollar latte.

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

4:20 p.m. sunset is also considered depressing by many.   We can only move things around and can't change the reality that winter days are short and winter is generally dark.   

I much rather come home to some light and have to drive in a little darkness to work than the reverse. Losing the late sunsets in summer would kill some of the glory of high lat summers. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 minute ago, iFred said:

I regret to inform you that those people along with you are wrong. Y'all can take my 2pm golden hours from my cold dead hands.

Also Anti-Mass is right, some of the most vocal people about DST on the west coast would complain for a couple days and probably would ***** that now it's too dark to go to school.

Great boon for seedy biki stand customers though who need that cover of darkness to purchase that 45 dollar latte.

Change the school schedule.

[iFred]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

4:20 p.m. sunset is also considered depressing by many.   We can only move things around and can't change the reality that winter days are short and winter is generally dark.   

For the life of me I can't find it, but a large newspaper (Seattle Times or WaPo, or NYT, or someone) did a write up about the "The Big Dark" in Bellingham back in 2014 or 2015. One thing that stood out was that long timers had acclimated to the darkness and the winter spaces people frequented where "nordic" in nature, warmer earth tones, cozy, warmly lit, and communal.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, iFred said:

For the life of me I can't find it, but a large newspaper (Seattle Times or WaPo, or NYT, or someone) did a write up about the "The Big Dark" in Bellingham back in 2014 or 2015. One thing that stood out was that long timers had acclimated to the darkness and the winter spaces people frequented where "nordic" in nature, warmer earth tones, cozy, warmly lit, and communal.

Also why Christmas lights are so popular in northern climates.

[Chewbacca Defense]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

A 4:20 sunset is also considered depressing by many.   We can only move things around and can't change the reality that winter days are short and winter is generally dark.  

Having the later winter sunset would give folks a chance to get out after work/school...weather permitting of course.  Most people can't really do any thing with the "earlier"/current sunrise time we have because  they have to get to work/school.  Folks like to freak out about kids going to school in the dark, but they already do up here in Bellingham, and folks up in Canada, Alaska, etc seem to be able to get their kids off to school in the dark without issue.

On the summer side of things is to keep the late summer evenings when the weather is actually nice so we can enjoy it.  I personally would hate a 4am sunrise, recognizing that it gets like 30-45 minutes before that.

[TT-SEA]

3 minutes ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

I much rather come home to some light and have to drive in a little darkness to work than the reverse. Losing the late sunsets in summer would kill some of the glory of high lat summers. 

Can't mess with summer.   Earlier sunsets and daylight starting just after 3 a.m. is silly.     I am ambivalent to the winter clock schedule because it's not that meaningful... but think having the earliest sunset be around 5:20 is a little better than having more morning light.