TT-SEA Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Out here timing of the rain is more important than quantity for the vegetation. 2019 was a much drier than normal year here and yet it was by far the most lush and green summer in the last decade. 2022 was a wetter than normal year with a 5 month dry spell through the warm season and trees were dying. We could have received 60 inches of rain in March 2022 and it would have been just as bad by October. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Angeles Foothiller Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Out here timing of the rain is more important than quantity for the vegetation. 2019 was a much drier than normal year here and yet it was by far the most lush and green summer in the last decade. 2022 was a wetter than normal year with a 5 month dry spell through the warm season and trees were dying. We could have received 60 inches of rain in March 2022 and it would have been just as bad by October. Hope to never experience a dry spell like that again. Quote PWS: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWAPORTA220 2023-2024 Snow Total: 18" (6 events) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 12Z EPS shows warm up followed by a cool down followed by a warm up. We just can't get out of those woods with this progressive pattern. Its almost like climo means some dry spells in April. Need to research more. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 its been dry, yesterday was good, but yea dry Irrigation district already sent a letter about potential restrictions starting in May Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Just now, Phishy Wx said: its been dry, yesterday was good, but yea dry Irrigation district already sent a letter about potential restrictions starting in May No cushion over there. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 https://ecology.wa.gov/blog/march-2024/water-supply-update Water Supply Update There’s snow doubt, we’re still in drought Despite the snow covering Hurricane Ridge, the Olympic Mountains are still at only half of their normal snowpack with spring right around the corner. National Park Service webcam photo With all the clouds in the air over the last month, you’d think at least one would have a silver lining. But to those who thought recent weather events might alleviate the state’s ongoing drought, there’s “snow such luck.” Weather events during the first weekend in March bumped statewide snowpack by 10 percent, raising our snow water equivalent (the amount of our water supply stored as snow) from 61 percent to 71 percent of normal. “The snow was helpful for the magnitude of drought impacts, but there is still significant concern for multiple regions of the state,” said Ecology’s statewide drought lead Caroline Mellor. “The Olympics did go from 34 percent last week to 51 percent today (March 2), which is a huge jump for a week. That doesn't make 51 percent any less concerning.” Mellor said the state would still need significantly above normal precipitation and cold temperatures to address the existing snowpack deficit and snowpack drought concerns. However, statewide, predictions for the next three months are for higher-than-average temperatures and lower -than-average precipitation. In addition to the existing drought declaration, areas of specific concern include the Olympic region, the central Cascade foothills and the upper Columbia Basin. A snowpack drought is one in which we receive normal amounts of precipitation, but it falls as rain when it’s historically been snow. Washington relies heavily on snowpack melting into streams and aquifers through spring and summer months for water supply. According to climate models, by 2050, we can expect a snowpack drought more than 40 percent of years. The state’s current drought, declared in July last year for 12 watersheds in 12 counties, is still in effect and scheduled to expire at the end of June. The statewide drought advisory is still in effect. Water supply at a glance: Source: National Integrated Drought Information System Snowpack – 71 percent Precipitation for the water year so far – 92 percent of normal Current Streamflows – Ranging from below normal to normal statewide with impacts from the snow drought anticipated in spring and summer. Streamflow Forecast – Areas in the northwest, central and eastern regions of the state are expected to rank among the lowest years on record. What’s next? Ecology continues to monitor the situation and depending on evolving conditions, has the option to extend the duration of the drought declaration or expand the number of affected areas. Each month Ecology chairs a meeting of the Water Supply Availability Committee. This meeting includes updates from various state and federal agencies regarding the many factors that contribute to our water supply. A recording ot the February meeting is available below. The state of Washington defines drought as the combination of less than 75 percent of normal water supply and the potential for undue hardship. While the WSAC meets monthly to discuss the water supply component of drought, we rely on other input to help determine hardship. You can help us understand your concerns about drought by filling out this survey. This information will help Ecology and other state agencies to better understand the current and future impacts of drought in different regions of the state. No identifying information will be collected in this survey. Online resources Keep up with current water supply information by visiting our statewide conditions page and our water supply monitoring page. The National Integrated Drought Information System recently launched new state-specific drought pages. The folks at NDIS worked with our staff to include some language describing how Washington defines drought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: 12Z EPS shows warm up followed by a cool down followed by a warm up. We just can't get out of those woods with this progressive pattern. Its almost like climo means some dry spells in April. Need to research more. It shows basically all of North America with slightly above normal heights by the end. Doesn't look like much of a signal to me. Pretty far out, obviously. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, the_convergence_zone said: Yep, most of the excess just runs off. Snowpack is the problem, it's around the 5th worst year in the past ~30 years in most of Washington. 5 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said: https://ecology.wa.gov/blog/march-2024/water-supply-update Water Supply Update There’s snow doubt, we’re still in drought Much different story in OR. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted March 28 Author Report Share Posted March 28 51F, blustery and the occasional shower. Nice and cool day. Cherishing these before we start counting up the 90F burgers between May and September. 2 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_convergence_zone Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 34 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said: Let’s just assume that below average rainfall is the same for water supply as average or above. I mean even when we hit average it just feels like too much rain to me, personally. #science It amuses me that you treat me like I'm an idiot and openly mock about half of the things I post on this forum. I make an offhand comment about something that seems straightforward to me and I get a barrage of insults from you in response. There's no point in engaging in a one-sided debate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 For those of you traveling to TX, there’s a chance you’ll end up smack dab in the middle of a tornado outbreak instead. That 12z ECMWF run is cringe. Giant wedge tornado during the middle of an eclipse would be one hell of an acid trip (except it would be real, hehe). 1 1 1 1 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 29 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: It shows basically all of North America with slightly above normal heights by the end. Doesn't look like much of a signal to me. Pretty far out, obviously. I like the weak troughing signal over AK and the GOA. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunriver Snow Zone Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, Phil said: For those of you traveling to TX, there’s a chance you’ll end up smack dab in the middle of a tornado outbreak instead. That 12z ECMWF run is cringe. Giant wedge tornado during the middle of an eclipse would be one hell of an acid trip (except it would be real, hehe). Well I've never seen a tornado before, but I have seen 3 solar eclipses. ITS TIME TO ROOT FOR THE TORNADOES, ITS COMING!!! WOOOOO!! GET YOUR CONCRETE BASEMENTS, BUY YOUR PRODUCE, BUY YOUR GASOLINE AND CANNED FOOD BECAUSE TORNADOMAGETON IS COMING!!! WOOOO!! 1 1 Quote Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107" Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none 23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunriver Snow Zone Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 9 minutes ago, Phil said: For those of you traveling to TX, there’s a chance you’ll end up smack dab in the middle of a tornado outbreak instead. That 12z ECMWF run is cringe. Giant wedge tornado during the middle of an eclipse would be one hell of an acid trip (except it would be real, hehe). On a serious note though, in the path of totality how does it look for Arkansas, SE Missouri, and South Illinois? Also cloudy for them? I'm rooting for it to be clear in Texas but I have a backup plan to view it in those regions. Quote Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107" Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none 23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, Phil said: For those of you traveling to TX, there’s a chance you’ll end up smack dab in the middle of a tornado outbreak instead. That 12z ECMWF run is cringe. Giant wedge tornado during the middle of an eclipse would be one hell of an acid trip (except it would be real, hehe). Looks like a big storm here. For our PNW friends, the trough dropping down next week is both deeper and a bit faster. Significantly improved blocking in the GOA. 3 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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the_convergence_zone Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, RentonHill said: Where did that chart come from? It looks low but not 6 sigma low...https://zacklabe.com/antarctic-sea-ice-extentconcentration/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Currently only 47 degrees and raining at 1pm here. Very chilly for the last few days of March. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, RentonHill said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 36 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said: It amuses me that you treat me like I'm an idiot and openly mock about half of the things I post on this forum. I make an offhand comment about something that seems straightforward to me and I get a barrage of insults from you in response. There's no point in engaging in a one-sided debate. Par for the course... its always been that way. Got a little better post-banning but right back to normal again now. Very abrasive with an ever-present know-it-all mocking tone. 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said: It amuses me that you treat me like I'm an idiot and openly mock about half of the things I post on this forum. I make an offhand comment about something that seems straightforward to me and I get a barrage of insults from you in response. There's no point in engaging in a one-sided debate. You haven’t lived until you have gotten a PM from him! (Or many) I’m part of that PM elite crowd!! I feel so special! 2 1 1 2 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, the_convergence_zone said: It amuses me that you treat me like I'm an idiot and openly mock about half of the things I post on this forum. I make an offhand comment about something that seems straightforward to me and I get a barrage of insults from you in response. There's no point in engaging in a one-sided debate. My apologies. I can try to tone it down. Some of these issues I’m pretty passionate about. Hydrology was my primary area of study as an undergrad. 1 1 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 7 minutes ago, MossMan said: You haven’t lived until you have gotten a PM from him! (Or many) I’m part of that PM elite crowd!! I feel so special! Been about five years since that was a thing. 1 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 41 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said: Where did that chart come from? It looks low but not 6 sigma low...https://zacklabe.com/antarctic-sea-ice-extentconcentration/ gadzooks!! i've been had 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 I don't want to alarm anyone, but it's down to 45 degrees here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 12 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said: Been about five years since that was a thing. You literally sent me another one just last week 2 1 3 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 30 minutes ago, MossMan said: You haven’t lived until you have gotten a PM from him! (Or many) I’m part of that PM elite crowd!! I feel so special! I feel left out. 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fubario Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Phil said: For those of you traveling to TX, there’s a chance you’ll end up smack dab in the middle of a tornado outbreak instead. That 12z ECMWF run is cringe. Giant wedge tornado during the middle of an eclipse would be one hell of an acid trip (except it would be real, hehe). i'll be in Hamilton Ontario for it. Trudeau promised it'll be clear. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Snap Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Some lightning in the Bothell area. 3 Quote 2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats Total Snowfall - 0.75” Max Snow Depth - 0.5” Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13) Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13) Number of Freezes - 51 Sub-40 highs - 12 Highs 32 or lower - 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 35 minutes ago, RentonHill said: gadzooks!! i've been had Really want those to come to CO: https://www.gadzooksaz.com/. It's kinda like Chipotle, but higher quality and enchiladas. So good. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 34 minutes ago, MossMan said: You literally sent me another one just last week Not sure why you are confused, Jesse… 1 3 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunriver Snow Zone Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 26 minutes ago, fubario said: i'll be in Hamilton Ontario for it. Trudeau promised it'll be clear. https://www.ndp.ca/news/10-years-justin-trudeau-10-broken-promises Looks like your getting a cloudy solar eclipse! Quote Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107" Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none 23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 I learned today that annual rainfall has nothing to do with groundwater. 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunriver Snow Zone Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 6 minutes ago, MossMan said: Not sure why you are confused, Jesse… Now you have to show us what he messaged you 2 3 1 2 Quote Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107" Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none 23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyMaestro Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Had a recruiter hit me up about a software dev position in Helena, MT. Probably nothing will come out of it, but it's fun to daydream about Montana snow if I were to relocate there If only! 53F right now, sun's trying to peek through clouds 3 1 Quote 𝘐𝘯 𝘮𝘺 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘭𝘦𝘴𝘴 𝘥𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘮𝘴, 𝘐 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘵𝘰𝘸𝘯. 𝘗𝘶𝘺𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘶𝘱. Reddit: HotlineMaestro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 23 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: I learned today that annual rainfall has nothing to do with groundwater. I learned today that some rainfall runs off into rivers and out to the ocean. The more you get... the more that runs off. If it takes 60 inches of rain a year to recharge an underground aquifer and the area averages 80 inches a year then you have lots of cushion. Because is full is full. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Here is a visual for Andew... Snoqualmie Falls dumping massive amounts of water running off from a heavy rainfall. Its being wasted! Heading right out to the ocean. Ground could not hold any more. 2 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Here is a visual for Andew... Snoqualmie Falls dumping massive amounts of water running off from a heavy rainfall. Its being wasted! Heading right out to the ocean. Ground could not hold any more. Doesn't look too droughty. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 Snow to cover the flowers...at least in the hills?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 28 Report Share Posted March 28 8 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: Doesn't look too droughty. Well not a live pic! Just an example of how our winter rain does run off to some degree. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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