TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 High temp was 26.9, now dropping, currently 25.7. Gotta love fake cold!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 High temp was 46.5 around 12:30 PM, temp dropped steadily all afternoon now at 40.8 due to low level cold strengthening in the Gorge. Those east winds are mighty chilly today as opposed to yesterday's 48 degree winds. Looking at Mesoanalysis the 925mb cold pool has been expanding. Not bitter, but not bad! C'MON!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 I ran a string to Mark Nelsen's house and left a dixie cup on his porch. My cup is tied on and ready for any information he may have. :). There's your CC, guys. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Christensen87 said: Lots of windstorm potential in the coming weeks. This is about as good as it gets. Definite wind storm pattern. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterdog Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, ShawniganLake said: Squirrel is a favourite of mine especially around the holidays. Try brining it first then a slow roast. They are somewhat more tasty than Possum but you gotta take what you can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, Meatyorologist said: That's unreal. That reminds me of Feb 1989 over Alaska/Western Yukon I believe. These kind of events pretty much put a hole or dent in the atmosphere due to the extreme sinking motion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Deweydog said: Teeth gnashing aside, today is absolutely stunning. Just best to ignore the surrounding snowless foothills. My wife had a Facebook memory pop up from 2015 when we filled the back of the pickup with snow from Larch Mountain. #ninamemories Hate to break it to you but I am enjoying today too. Of course we are in eastern Oregon where it is in the low 30s along with the sunny skies and SNOW on the ground. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyJr Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 SSW has begun. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, AbbyJr said: SSW has begun. Very nice. The models will reflect that fairly soon with huge, profound changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gradient Keeper Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Can we just fast forward present time from today(Monday) to Thursday-Friday when models in the 'believable' time frame may REALLY turn interesting if not crazy! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: Can we just fast forward present time from today(Monday) to Thursday-Friday when models in the 'believable' time frame may REALLY turn interesting if not crazy! Thanks! Believable within 3-5 days or one of those 8-12 windows we know so much about ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 hour ago, ShawniganLake said: Squirrel is a favourite of mine especially around the holidays. Try brining it first then a slow roast. 1 hour ago, ShawniganLake said: Squirrel is a favourite of mine especially around the holidays. Try brining it first then a slow roast. They are high in cholesterol. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Had a high of 41 and a low of 30. currently 37. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Wind has died down and it's down to 39. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 4:39 PM, and hit the lowest temp since midnight already at 25.3. Still very light "inversion" flurries coming down. I will take the fake flurry coating any day of the week!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat? Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, DJ Droppin said: Very nice. The models will reflect that fairly soon with huge, profound changes. Sure wish I knew how to read that map. Someone tell me how you know it’s started now? For real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 The mythical beast SSW has arrived! 2 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Acer said: With all this negativity Jim is likely to have his first winter tantrum soon before exiting stage left. I'm fine with where we're at right now. Massive SSW in progress and the models suddenly becoming more bullish on a potentially very favorable MJO emerging. The models will have lots to think about the next 10 days. MJO and SSW are both wild card the models don't respond well to initially. 4 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyJr Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Just now, snow_wizard said: I'm fine with where we're at right now. Massive SSW in progress and the models suddenly becoming more bullish on a potentially very favorable MJO emerging. The models will have lots to think about the next 10 days. MJO and SSW are both wild card the models don't respond well to initially. What MJO phase is most favourable for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Yes, can someone paint a picture of SSW affects, that even Mat can understand? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Nice to see a Winter Storm Watch posted for most of the Cascade Range. 2 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Do models "think?" Are they sentient? 1 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Do models "think?" Are they sentient? The EM model is very sentient........"Elon Musk Model". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, AbbyJr said: What MJO phase is most favourable for us? IMO 2/3, 5, and 7. Most models show the wave beginning in 2. It seems like 5 is really great when an already emerged wave moves into the region as opposed to emerging there. 7 almost always brings legit cold. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, AbbyJr said: What MJO phase is most favourable for us? Depends on the time of year, ENSO, and cycle+maturity of QBO. 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 Here is an illustration of how fast the SSW will happen over the next week. The warm area moves to the very top of the globe and intensifies. It also splits the PV. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 201 pages so far this month. I am going to predict that January is so insane, 1000+ pages may be happening!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Phil said: Depends on the time of year, ENSO, and cycle+maturity of QBO. Very good point. The areas I gave are dead of winter. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: One of these days I would love for him to be proven right. Really unfair. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, Phil said: Depends on the time of year, ENSO, and cycle+maturity of QBO. Yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakerepp Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 SSW! 1 1 Quote Home Weather Station Stats for 2023 High - Satans Bunghole Lowest High - Not sure Low - I don't have the data Sub 40 highs - Not quite Sub-freezing highs - Try again Lows below 25 - You're joking Lows below 20 - No 2023 Snowfall - LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 What is going to push that SSW out to the NW a little more? Edit: Or even W/SW would work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakerepp Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 1 minute ago, TheNewCulverJosh said: What is going to push that SSW out to the NW a little more? Edit: Or even W/SW would work. Really big fans 2 1 Quote Home Weather Station Stats for 2023 High - Satans Bunghole Lowest High - Not sure Low - I don't have the data Sub 40 highs - Not quite Sub-freezing highs - Try again Lows below 25 - You're joking Lows below 20 - No 2023 Snowfall - LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, jakerepp said: Really big fans Sweet, let me talk to some of those people up there. Seriously though, I know SSW is a great initial player but being up there is only a part of the equation. I don't see any retrogression imminent, I just see the cold air deepening in central Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, TheNewCulverJosh said: What is going to push that SSW out to the NW a little more? Edit: Or even W/SW would work. That’s a temp anomaly at about 100k feet. Little bearing directly on the weather below. What it does say is that cold air high up will be forced down, somewhere. From what I understand it does increase chances of Arctic air and lower latitudes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheNewCulverJosh said: Sweet, let me talk to some of those people up there. Seriously though, I know SSW is a great initial player but being up there is only a part of the equation. I don't see any retrogression imminent, I just see the cold air deepening in central Canada. With the UFO videos released by the navy earlier this year and monoliths popping up in the desert sw, maybe we can make a deal with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, TheNewCulverJosh said: What is going to push that SSW out to the NW a little more? Edit: Or even W/SW would work. The upper level winds reverse when the SSW is complete. Remember the anomalies at 10mb are far different than what is taking place in the lower levels. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyJr Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Phil said: Depends on the time of year, ENSO, and cycle+maturity of QBO. So in this case, January with a -ENSO/+QBO, what would be most favourable? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 3yrs ago it was all about the Kona Low, 2yrs ago it’s all about the Retrogression, and last year it was all about the Low Solar. This season it’s the SSW... Wonder what we will have to obsess about next season. 1 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewCulverJosh Posted December 29, 2020 Report Share Posted December 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: The upper level winds reverse when the SSW is complete. Remember the anomalies at 10mb are far different than what is taking place in the lower levels. Thanks for the info.....we all like to post pretty maps with pretty colors but some are hard to understand. I frankly just do not have the time to dissect and understand as well as some others on here. Cheers to you Jim. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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