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December 2016 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest


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Heard it's snowing in Olympia despite the south wind

 

For Central Puget Sound we want a north wind plowing into the south wind later tonight.  Good things happen with that as you know.  The fact that areas with south winds are getting snow means we will have little wait for precip to become snow when the convergence begins.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Yeah...Bellingham getting snow with SE winds is pretty newsworthy.  Looks like Vancouver is really doing well so far.

 

We've got 2" down already and it's coming down pretty hard.

 

I don't think we'll get much more since it seems like the precip is on its way across the border, but we've had five 4" events this month, so I'm not complaining.

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Looks like the wind shift has reached Vancouver. It also appears the cloud bands north of the low are producing snowfall, so the moisture field is pretty extensive.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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I'm wondering if I get a temp jump this evening too...

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Upper levels must be pretty warm down here. Just took a drive and pure solid rain. Not one slush drop :(

Yeah...we are in the warm sector right now. Models say by mid evening the profile will support snow. That is especially true with convergence. I really hope this can be a fun experience for us tonight. Today was painful on the forum.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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925 temps around -2 in king county and -1 in pierce

The WRF was showing a brief period of around zero in the SE lee of the Olympics.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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The upper levels won't be cold enough to support snow here until about 9-11pm. However, if the mid layer doesn't mix out I should be fine...We'll see. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Looks like the wind shift has reached Vancouver. It also appears the cloud bands north of the low are producing snowfall, so the moisture field is pretty extensive.

The wind shift in Abbotsford in a couple of hours ago. It's snowing nicely. The roads are going to be pretty bad everywhere since people don't want to go out for plowing tonight.

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Looking at the obs from WA it would be a good bet most of W. Oregon will warm this evening. Most temps 35-40 across W. WA. 

 

Quite a bit of warming along the coast now too...

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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The wind shift in Abbotsford in a couple of hours ago. It's snowing nicely. The roads are going to be pretty bad everywhere since people don't want to go out for plowing tonight.

Dumping snow here now and 31... roads are completely snow covered.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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Lol ..... reading the past 4 pages. Seriously.

The Bible teaches us that he without sin is the only one with the moral authority to cast a stone.

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Yeah...we are in the warm sector right now. Models say by mid evening the profile will support snow. That is especially true with convergence. I really hope this can be a fun experience for us tonight. Today was painful on the forum.

My concern is still that most of the moisture will be gone and we will have to rely on the unreliable convergence zone.

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DJ...save us with some thoughtful model analysis and Euro Ensemble snowfall maps....

Well, I can tell you this. Analyzing 12 hour WV/IR Loops shows the shortwave and arctic trough has not slowed down at all. It's also moving southeast. It is supposed to do slow down and stall, then dig west off Oregon and I just don't see it. We'll see I guess....

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My concern is still that most of the moisture will be gone and we will have to rely on the unreliable convergence zone.

This is a classic atypical C-Zone situation for us. The actual zone where the pressure is higher both to the north and south. When that happens the moisture gets further squeezed between the Olympics and the Cascades. This one of the better scenarios for us. Interestingly the models have been trending toward keeping snowfall going into the morning in this area now.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Well, I can tell you this. Analyzing 12 hour WV/IR Loops shows the shortwave and arctic trough has not slowed down at all. It's also moving southeast. It is supposed to do slow down and stall, then dig west off Oregon and I just don't see it. We'll see I guess....

You can see it on satellite and even radar that this baby is moving southeast fast.

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Might as well just copy paste this for every run the next three days.

I'm not going to comment on posts like this anymore tonight.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Lol, I just looked around and that is the warmest temp there is. :)  :lol:

 

 

Upstream does not look real cold... but that is sort of given at this point.   

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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