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Great to have some pessimism back on the thread…It was way too positive the last few days…Just didn’t feel like home, now it does. 🥰

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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1 minute ago, AlTahoe said:

Just took a peak at weather.wrong and it looks like it might snow some here. 

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Just some snow showers, nothing to worry about. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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8 minutes ago, Timmy said:

This thing is teetering on pretty lame if it doesn’t produce snow at pdx. Canadian isn’t impressive. 

12Z GEM is worse for snow going into the cold for western WA compared to its 00Z run.

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2 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Another snowstorm up north 

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Dry blast into lingering chill with sloppy snow events. Sorta bummed that the initial blast increasingly looks dry IMBY, but have had several non-dry blasts recently and can’t win ’em all.

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It's called clown range for a reason.

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1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Dry blast into lingering chill with sloppy snow events. Sorta bummed that the initial blast increasingly looks dry IMBY, but have had several non-dry blasts recently and can’t win ’em all.

Onto next season. November is going to be epic! 

Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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30 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z GFS is much less snowy for western WA going into the cold.    Over the last two days... the focus on the snow going into the cold has been shifting south on the GFS runs.    Previously over Whatcom County and SW BC and now over western OR on the 12Z run.

 

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That looks pretty nice for the Valley

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6 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Vancouver is the bigger winner again

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Wow, not really sure what all the whining is about. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Wow, not really sure what all the whining is about. 

Looks awesome, i have not been looking to hard for my home area but it looks great for my cabin area, trying to get up there next weekend. Still looking like a big dump around the canal .

We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Wow, not really sure what all the whining is about. 

No whining? I just said “Vancouver is the big winner again” since they are in a good spot for a couple storms. Chill buddy.  I like the southern trend for the first system. I want Portland to to get hit. 

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32 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

Just took a peak at weather.wrong and it looks like it might snow some here. 

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I don’t follow/use wx-apps all that much, but have noticed that TWC accuracy has tanked here over the last 1-2 years.

Daily forecasts on postfrontal/pressure rise days will often call for 10-20mph NW winds w/ no gusts, but in reality we end up with 45-55mph gusts.

And last summer their temperature forecasts beyond D5 were insanely cool biased..it was basically trolling. :lol: All those mid/upper 80s ended up being low 90s.

Must be some serious cost-cutting going on behind the scenes, because they used to do well with this stuff. Any model that handles topography/BL mixing sufficiently can pick up on this stuff, but it whatevs.

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3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Wow, not really sure what all the whining is about. 

Of course the GFS is going to show tons of snow after day 7... and its marginal errors keep getting compounded and it will look great for everyone!

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Of course the GFS is going to show tons of snow after day 7... and its marginal errors keep getting compounded and it will look great for everyone!

Exactly. I don’t really care about snow modelled in deep clown range. If I saw as much snow IMBY as those models forecast, they would be able to run a small ski slope in Queen Elizabeth Park on the resulting annual snowfall.

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11 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

No whining? I just said “Vancouver is the big winner again” since they are in a good spot for a couple storms. Chill buddy.  I like the southern trend for the first system. I want Portland to to get hit. 

I wasn’t really directing that at you. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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3 minutes ago, Fircrest said:

Did Rob leave the forum? Or is he just busy with his FB group?

Rob comes and goes all the time... and usually disappears as big events become imminent.  

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1 minute ago, Snownerd3000 said:

Curious to see if this is a trend or just one model run. 

Um it’s been fluctuating up and down about 1in ish every run. However, Portland looks to be in good shape🙂

No major downtrends yet in snow. 

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1 minute ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z WRF... snow total over the next week.

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Looks good for the Willamette Valley. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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