MossMan Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Rain/snow mix at work. Update: And it’s done. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Unless we have Phil caliber melting before Thursday, I will officially have 40 straight days with snow on the ground. If you would have told me (Matt would have told me) on MLK Day that I would have snow on the ground for 40+ days and a 36” total by mid March I would have laughed and stabbed a fork into the 2017 Christmas snowball that I still have in the freezer...And then cried. 5 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 SEA is up to 47 now... which representative of the stations around there. ECMWF showed a high of 43 today. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Look like the PSCZ that keep streaming into Kirkland (my workplace) all day is finally about to leave the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 C-zone never materialized to any precip but now the suns out so it’s all good..temp only made it to 43 so far 10 below avg Today might be the last sub 50 high of the season here at my house Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 EPS is also slower with the ridge break down... but ends up with generally mild zonal flow with normal 850mb temps across the PNW. Sort of looks like the action would be more focused on CA again. But I am sure there would be some rainy periods up here too. Looks Nino-ish... I can totally feel this ridge “breaking down” into a split flow pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 I can totally feel this ridge “breaking down” into a split flow patternI am getting that feeling too. It would be much more springy though. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epiceast Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 I am getting that feeling too. It would be much more springy though.Split flow is an above average pattern... Could even be a sunny one for favorable locales 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Meteorological definitions of the seasons make a lot more sense.Cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Meteorological definitions of the seasons make a lot more sense. Unless you're talking about spring in the PNW, which according to certain sources starts in mid January and lasts until early July. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 The developing Midwest storm has everything I would ever want in a system. High winds, heavy rain, crazy snow, historic low pressure. It’s high time for another windstorm. This time, I want all those Weather Channel folks to see what a storm here can do, and not be disappointed. Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Unless you're talking about spring in the PNW, which according to certain sources starts in mid January and lasts until early July. Basically does in many years. By the standards of other places in the northern US... we usually have spring-like weather around here starting in late January when they are still in deep winter. And we often still have spring-like weather in June when they are in full blown summer. This year has obviously been a huge exception to that general rule. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Almost humidity season in DC!Off limits. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Boooo. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 C-zone is finally winding down. Unofficial start of spring here right now as it will start to slowly but steadily improve going forward... better late than never!Until the jet blasts in! Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Until the jet blasts in!That is still an improvement! And happens all the time. Except this year. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Basically does in many years. By the standards of other places in the northern US... we usually have spring-like weather around here starting in late January when they are still in deep winter. And we often still have spring-like weather in June when they are in full blown summer. This year has obviously been a huge exception to that general rule.Almost like coastal climate is quite a bit different than continental. It's just a totally different animal... continental climates tend to be much more variable and extreme - the seasons themselves are just different, but that doesn't mean they "start" at radically different times. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Almost like coastal climate is quite a bit different than continental. It's just a totally different animal... continental climates tend to be much more variable and extreme - the seasons themselves are just different, but that doesn't mean they "start" at radically different times.Whatever. Obviously its just a general sentiment. You are taking it too seriously and keep bringing it up. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 12, 2019 Report Share Posted March 12, 2019 Seattle’s spring doesn’t start in January. Recency bias. Similar to how the last 6 summers have been historically warm and sunny..when things inevitably return to “normal” it will shock lots of folks. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Watch this summer be completely different than the past 5 summers and be cooler and wetter 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Can't change a calendar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Can't change a calendar Actually you can... What you can't change is our orbit! 1 Quote Cold Season 2023/24: Total snowfall: 26" Highest daily snowfall: 5" Deepest snow depth: 12" Coldest daily high: -20ºF Coldest daily low: -42ºF Number of subzero days: 5 Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Seattle’s spring doesn’t start in January. Recency bias. Similar to how the last 6 summers have been historically warm and sunny..when things inevitably return to “normal” it will shock lots of folks. So shocking! Having some rain in the summer and not choking for weeks in thick smoke?? That will be shocking. I am sure people really want more wildfires and summer ruined by heat and smoke every year. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Seattle’s spring doesn’t start in January. No sh*t... but when its in the 50s and sunny most of the month and flowers are blooming and it stays above freezing at night then some people might joke that spring starts in January. Because it sure felt like it this year. And then we had record cold and snow that is still going... so February and the first half of March have been VERY winter-like. Nature does not follow a script. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Surprisingly had a tiny patch of snow last until this afternoon, the last snowfall last week created the longest duration of snow on the ground for the winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 So shocking! Having some rain in the summer and not choking for weeks in thick smoke?? That will be shocking. I am sure people really want more wildfires and summer ruined by heat and smoke every year. I want heat this summer, all the heats!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CulverJosh Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Has Ventrice ever been right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 I want heat this summer, all the heats!!Another smoky summer would be really depressing. Don't think it will happen. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Whatever. Obviously its just a general sentiment. You are taking it too seriously and keep bringing it up. If the post leaders of this forum have taught me one thing, it's that repetition is the key to getting a point across. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Another smoky summer would be really depressing. Don't think it will happen.I didn't say anything about smoke, we can still have really hot weather and get enough rain to stifle fire risk throughout our region, just because it hasn't happened recently doesn't mean it can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 I didn't say anything about smoke, we can still have really hot weather and get enough rain to stifle fire risk throughout our region, just because it hasn't happened recently doesn't mean it can't.Totally agree. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 As much as I really don't want a summer 1993 or 2011 repeat, the climactic effects that cause it are not magically gone. It can still happen. If it does anytime soon, it's going to be massive whiplash. Sad piece of truth about our climate: Summer is not a guaranteed season here. It happens almost every year, and some are genuinely hot, but every 10 years or so we get a "summer" that is complete garbage. That's just climate, and that's just how anomalies work. If it makes you feel any better, California is affected by similar weather systems and they had a crap summer in 2010. It's not unique to the PNW in the slightest. Pretty sure the east can get screwed some years as well, but I'm not totally sure on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Mt Si still looks like winter... Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 No sh*t... but when its in the 50s and sunny most of the month and flowers are blooming and it stays above freezing at night then some people might joke that spring starts in January. Because it sure felt like it this year. And then we had record cold and snow that is still going... so February and the first half of March have been VERY winter-like. Nature does not follow a script. You just have to look at averages. And both temps and precip play a role. On average, SEA precip drops from 5.77" in January to less than half that in April. Average high temps in April are 12 degrees warmer than January, which doesn't sound like much until you consider that by the end of April, average high temps are exactly halfway between their lowest in December/January (45) and their highest in July/August (75). Overall, April and May are the most "spring-like" months in the PNW (temps halfway between winter and summer), just as they are the vast majority of places. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 I still think we are going to have a Jesserific summer. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 This storm dropped 0.20" before midnight and 0.36" today on PDX. A storm that actually lives up to the forecast. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 I can totally feel this ridge “breaking down” into a split flow patternNice spring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 CFS models for the next six weeks show no cold anomalies. Does CFS long term climate actually mean anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 So is it really looking like the past month and a half may have just been a blip in an overall torch that doesn't stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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