Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 That coupled with Tim's EPS map this morning, starting to feel a little deja vu. Was last January top warm? I thought it fell a little short but I have trouble keeping track of all the top warm months anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 We have a pretty solid window of opportunity coming up in early Feb. Some promising model runs in that time frame and the EPS teleconnection forecasts continue to trend better. Finally a signal for some -WPO which is something that has been lacking this winter, and the PNA goes negative again. We will all be watching closely! Would be a rare feat that hasn't happened in a long time if we get snow and cold in February 4 years in a row. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Speaking of recent weather...it's rained here 20 days in a row now...21 if it rains today. It's done measurable precip wether it be rain or snow every day this month so far. Since 12/18 it's rained 10.79" and has rained 31 out of the last 33 days. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Mountain snowpack has vastly improved since mid December. Pattern has been quite good for lots of rain and mountain snow recently. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 At least at PDX, last January wasn't super torchy. Just +1.7 for a departure. January 2018 was their second warmest January on record, though. Three week arctic outbreak and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Mountain snowpack has vastly improved since mid December. Pattern has been quite good for lots of rain and mountain snow recently. Wow. This is great news, good to hear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Was last January top warm? I thought it fell a little short but I have trouble keeping track of all the top warm months anymore. Yeah I think it did fall a little short, but it was warm. SLE's average high was over 50 for the month. I believe January 2018 was warmer. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Just need something before midnight to keep the measurable rainfall streak alive. Kinda rooting for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 It's basically been a drier version of January 1953, that month also had some arctic air make it down to the border, albeit not as intensely. Upside to that is the cold in AK actually has been impressive for a change. Anchorage is posting a -14 departure right now and is looking at another extended stretch of deep cold. If the month ended today it would be their coldest January on record and 2nd coldest month overall. I was thinking that the other night, especially looking at how wet we could close this month. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I was thinking that the other night, especially looking at how wet we could close this month. GFS looks a little drier now to close out the month but it could easily swing back the other way. Should still wind up solidly wet for most of the region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Be nice to get some wind to dry out the sponge ground here. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I wouldn’t mind another chance at some snow but at this point I am ready for some dry sunny weather. The last two months are starting to get to me. The continual light rain and cloudiness with heavier bouts of rain between has been very persistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I wouldn’t mind another chance at some snow but at this point I am ready for some dry sunny weather. The last two months are starting to get to me. The continual light rain and cloudiness with heavier bouts of rain between has been very persistent.November and the first part of December were notably dry. Other shoe was bound to drop at some point. Just gotta hope all this rain doesn’t kill too many native trees. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I love the rain and my favorite is when fronts roll through with showers and sun breaks after. Never cared much for the warm front fog and drizzle. Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 November and the first part of December were notably dry. Other shoe was bound to drop at some point.Just gotta hope all this rain doesn’t kill too many native trees.My hemlocks are liking the rain that I know. 1 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I love the rain and my favorite is when fronts roll through with showers and sun breaks after. Never cared much for the warm front fog and drizzle.I love the pre frontal wind and warmth that happens especially in the fall. And like you say the fast moving fronts that leave us with showers and sun breaks. That stagnant warm front that lingers is my least favorite. This past November and December was brutal. Nearly zero wind movement for two months was awful. This month has been wonderful! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 My hemlocks are liking the rain that I know.It was a joke since gaffey has pointed out some “research” in the past saying that rain is bad for native trees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I love the pre frontal wind and warmth that happens especially in the fall. And like you say the fast moving fronts that leave us with showers and sun breaks. That stagnant warm front that lingers is my least favorite. This past November and December was brutal. Nearly zero wind movement for two months was awful. This month has been wonderful!November was probably one of the sunniest I can ever remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Also not looking forward to the wasps, hornets, and yellowjackets being worse after a warm fallspring. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 November was probably one of the sunniest I can ever remember. great points. There was also a dry stretch 18years ago so really shouldn’t be tired of the rain right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 It was a joke since gaffey has pointed out some “research” in the past saying that rain is bad for native trees. I never said that. I said that more vegetation is killed from cold, wind, and rain than drought around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I have mosquitoes in my house. Can’t be a good sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 November was probably one of the sunniest I can ever remember.I don’t remember it being overly sunny up here. I just remember stagnant air. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I have mosquitoes in my house. Can’t be a good sign I noticed a lot of mosquitoes lately too. Usually they are pretty dormant this time of year but have been pretty bad lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 I don’t remember it being overly sunny up here. I just remember stagnant air. This fall and winter has been a dry and cloudy theme here. More days with rain and clouds but less precip to show for it. Worst of both worlds in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 great points. There was also a dry stretch 18years ago so really shouldn’t be tired of the rain right now... A notable dry and sunny stretch in the same wet season is a lot more pertinent than one nearly two decades ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Jesse’s back from vacation!! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 A notable dry and sunny stretch in the same wet season is a lot more pertinent than one nearly two decades ago. wasn’t the case here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Jesse’s back from vacation!!It could rain for 150 days in a row... and Jesse would be scolding people for enjoying the first dry day and invoking concern for the trees as the reason. Likewise... it could rain every day all summer and he would be happy as a clam. Interestingly... Portland averages 200 days a year without rain. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmcgaffey Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Jesse’s back from vacation!! I should have never made that comment that I was ready for some dry and sunny weather... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Jesse’s back from vacation!!I never left! And what would this place be during quiet times without a little friendly debate. Only so many pictures we can look at of your lording how much snow you got over everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 This has felt like the driest it's ever been here for this time of year. Outside of a few inches of rain in October and the past month or so, we haven't had any significant rain since last spring. And that faucet was shut off earlier than usual too.This is without mentioning how warm we always are. We're all of a sudden in a record warm January after all this. I am rooting for this climate to stay intact. I hope the trends start heading towards wetter, cooler and snowier again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 This has felt like the driest it's ever been here for this time of year. Outside of a few inches of rain in October and the past month or so, we haven't had any significant rain since last spring. And that faucet was shut off earlier than usual too.This is without mentioning how warm we always are. We're all of a sudden in a record warm January after all this. I am rooting for this climate to stay intact. I hope the trends start heading towards wetter, cooler and snowier again. Its been very wet up here for the last month... October and November were fairly dry though... although we did have flooding in October. All the rain was focused in one week that month. November was very dry and quiet overall. But its been a wet winter so far in western WA. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Its been very wet up here for the last month... Wonder how that would look without the one big rainstorm you guys had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Wonder how that would look without the one big rainstorm you guys had. We had two major rain events... one before Christmas and one in January and both resulted in widespread river flooding. Of course... that is a normal way to get to average precip around here in the winter and those events can't be removed. And it has not been dry otherwise. SEA has only had one day this year with 0.00 and that was on 1/1. Getting close to record territory in terms of persistent rain. Its rained on 29 out of the last 32 days. And it looks like it will rain on most of the days for the rest of the month as well. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 We had two major rain events... one before Christmas and one in January and both resulted in widespread river flooding. Of course... that is a normal way to get to average precip around here in the winter and those events can't be removed. And it has not been dry otherwise. SEA has only had one day this year with 0.00 and that was on 1/1. Getting close to record territory in terms of persistent rain. Its rained on 29 out of the last 32 days. And it looks like it will rain on most of the days for the rest of the month as well.Portland had it's two driest years back to back in 2018 and 2019. A lot of our rain has been coming all at once rather than being spread out over time, too. They've been complaining about that in California a lot because when you get all the rain at once it just goes straight into the ocean rather than seeping into the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Portland had it's two driest years back to back in 2018 and 2019. A lot of our rain has been coming all at once rather than being spread out over time, too. They've been complaining about that in California a lot because when you get all the rain at once it just goes straight into the ocean rather than seeping into the ground. Great... we just need to stop making generalizations about the entire region. For some of us... its been unusually persistently wet for more than month and that looks to continue. It makes sense that this would happen after an unusually quiet November. But we are doing good now in terms of rain and mountain snow. There are no problems up here. Not saying you did this specifically. But its a common issue on this forum. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OysterPrintout Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 GFS ensemble really has this long range pattern nailed down. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 Great... we just need to stop making generalizations about the entire region. For some of us... its been unusually persistently wet for more than month and that looks to continue. It makes sense that this would happen after an unusually quiet November. But we are doing good now in terms of rain and mountain snow. There are no problems up here. Not saying you did this specifically. But its a common issue on this forum.No absolutely it's been wetter up there than down here, especially the past month. Our somewhat similar geographical locations are running 70% here average precip and 140% there in the last month. Definitely a contrast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 GFS ensemble really has this long range pattern nailed down. ens_image.pngWow! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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