Farmboy Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 That weekend storm is looking like a gullywasher on the 12z GFS. Could be fun and climate changey.Wonderful, should be great in Rhodedendron, OR where I am now. 2 Quote "Avoiding unwanted weather is a key element of happiness." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Ooh, Justine. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 This garbage is why no mets post here. I never mentioned global temperatures. You guys did. I made a factual statement describing how upper level thermodynamic boundary conditions resemble those in post-volcanic years, and you guys rant about global tropospheric temperature trends and radiatively-forced volcanic cooling. Lol.. I make a factual statement about the anomalous upper level airmass a few weeks ago, and you guys respond with irrelevant crap about surface thermometer records over long periods of time, as if that’s somehow relevant to the point I’m making. And you say *I’m* the one spinning false narratives? Give me a break.This post on the other hand is going to bring pro mets in by the C130 load. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 And FYI, upper level cold extremes have not decreased, at least not across the NE US. Maybe in some areas they have decreased, but not in others. The coldest 850mb temperature ever recorded at DCA/IAD occurred in Feb 2015, with records back to 1948. The coldest 850mb air masses ever observed in May and February have both occurred in the last 5 years. For reference, there are no #1 cold records from the 1960s, and besides March 1950, there are none from the 1950s either. The 1948-1976 period had a grand total of three #1 cold records at 850mb. In just the last 7 years, there have already been two, with several close finishes. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 This post on the other hand is going to bring pro mets in by the C130 load.Fair enough. Edited. I’ve probably been a d*ckhead lately. I’m just tired of answering for claims I never made, on multiple fronts, from people (apparently) uninterested in the topic(s) and/or scientific material. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Looks like my area misses the light show...Too bad. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 overachieving high temps as usual.Vernonia, Beaverton and Camas already up to 86 as of 1pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Vernonia, Beaverton and Camas already up to 86 as of 1pm. HIO and PDX are at 88. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 And FYI, upper level cold extremes have not decreased, at least not across the NE US. Maybe in some areas they have decreased, but not in others. The coldest 850mb temperature ever recorded at DCA/IAD occurred in Feb 2015, with records back to 1948. The coldest 850mb air masses ever observed in May and February have both occurred in the last 5 years. For reference, there are no #1 cold records from the 1960s, and besides March 1950, there are none from the 1950s either. The 1948-1976 period had a grand total of three #1 cold records at 850mb. In just the last 7 years, there have already been two, with several close finishes. It is funny how people choose to focus on 850 temps or surface temps, depending on what climate narrative they are selling. There have been times where Justin has been much more focused on one or the other, depending mainly on which one makes the current climate appear more impotent. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 It is funny how people choose to focus on 850 temps or surface temps, depending on what climate narrative they are selling. There have been times where Justin has been much more focused on one or the other, depending mainly on which one makes the current climate appear more impotent.I’ve always preferred upper level temps. Surface temps can vary widely over topography, are more prone to contamination, and are only measured at a few widely-dispersed points on what is a structurally complex and thermodynamically-intricate surface/plane, with a complete absence of data every except for where observing stations are located. And again, land use changes/urbanization have already corrupted the majority of those records. Surface temperatures don’t tell you much about the large scale picture, when you think about it. These surface stations were never designed with the intent of measuring long term climate change. People speak confidently about our efforts to fully initialize, homogenize, and spatially extrapolate/interpolate surface station data through which climate trends can be derived, but given the fact revisions to those datasets have exceeded previously published 99.7% confidence intervals on *multiple occasions*, it’s hard to take that narrative seriously anymore. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeWx Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Vernonia, Beaverton and Camas already up to 86 as of 1pm. Most locations should reach 90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 HIO and PDX are at 88.Most locations should reach 90Temps as of 3pm. Vernonia, Beaverton and Vancouver have hit 90. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted May 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Springfield at 86F and EUG at 85F. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Really hot or super soggy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seattleweatherguy Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 nws sees thunderstorms focused on the cascades. any chance we see some drift over to the west to the puget sound or this not the right pattern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swamp Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 I want some t storms in the swamp. They are so cool. The rumble is mystic. The light show can be hypnotic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TacomaWaWx Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 77 here...doesn’t look like we will hit 80 today. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 I want some t storms in the swamp. They are so cool. The rumble is mystic. The light show can be hypnotic. Did you happen to see any of the thunderstorms on cinco de Mayo this year? Those were some decent thunderstorms. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 77 here...doesn’t look like we will hit 80 today. 82 here... and 80 at SEA. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 92/50 at Hillsboro today, 42F diurnal range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 92/50 at Hillsboro today, 42F diurnal range.93 for the high out here in Troutdale today. Broke the old record for the day set back in 1972. RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OREGON 510 PM PDT THU MAY 28 2020 ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT TROUTDALE OREGON... A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 93 DEGREES WAS SET AT TROUTDALE OREGON TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 91 SET IN 1972. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Had a high of 78 and a low of 50. Currently 74. Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Front Ranger Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 I want some t storms in the swamp. They are so cool. The rumble is mystic. The light show can be hypnotic.Swamp poetry. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 9 degrees short of a record at PDX. ☃ Very sad. I hope it hits 110 this summer to make up for it!!! ♨ That's a lot of emojis... Quote "Let's mosey!" --Cloud Strife ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014): (1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019. Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 77/57 here. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted May 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 88F for a hi in Springfield. South valley was widespread upper-80s. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterdog Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 81/49 here, currently 73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeWx Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Temps as of 3pm. Vernonia, Beaverton and Vancouver have hit 90. I called it. All locations got to 90 or higher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blizzard777 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 The 90s are back! I’m a 80s dude ! 80/53 todaycurrently 72* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeWx Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Really hot or super soggy.Hot and soggy is Florida weather heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Looks like my area misses the light show...Too bad.Might need to chase with car! Just let the wife know your going to the store for some milk. Don’t tell her what store though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 A few years Portland was forecasted to reach 112 and 113 for a few days. Then the wildfire smoke came and kept the temperatures down and it didn’t make it. The 107 is low hanging fruit. It will fall soon: A source of controversy in these parts...I don't think anyone believes it would have topped 110 without the smoke, but perhaps the all-time record was in reach. I wouldn't call 107 low hanging fruit. 102 in June is, though. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard777 Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 A touch humid today. Anyone going out East to chase?So close! Might be enjoyable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 What do global temperatures have to do with this? I get “touchy” when people deny objective reality. Your implications are demonstrably false. The US had never once recorded a 500mb temperature of -40C during the month of May until 2020. Not in the radiosonde records back to WWII, not in the NCEP-NCAR reanalysis back to the 19th century, not anywhere. Furthermore, it had the largest standard deviation ever recorded in terms of 500mb temperatures over the US, for any airmass, warm or cold, at any time of year. Implications like the U.S. and the world at large continue to fry? I didn't realize that wasn't an objective reality. And I'd love to see a breakdown showing how much more impressive the early May D.C trough was than something like December 23-25, 1983. I'm sure you'll have plentiful data as always when pressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 It is funny how people choose to focus on 850 temps or surface temps, depending on what climate narrative they are selling. There have been times where Justin has been much more focused on one or the other, depending mainly on which one makes the current climate appear more impotent. Surface temps do a plenty good job of that all on their own. Have you looked at a global temperature anomaly map recently? It's funny how hard a select and predictable few on here fight the simple point that the 21st century climate has been abysmal at producing cold of significance relative to the previous two centuries. It almost seems like it should be common sense, so I feel a little weird about having to be such a broken record, but you guys just persist year after year with this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 29, 2020 Report Share Posted May 29, 2020 Implications like the U.S. and the world at large continue to fry? I didn't realize that wasn't an objective reality. And I'd love to see a breakdown showing how much more impressive the early May D.C trough was than something like December 23-25, 1983. I'm sure you'll have plentiful data as always when pressed. Most the U.S. hasn't exactly fried the past couple years. Phil kinda has, though! 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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