December 2023 Weather in the PNW

[RentonHill]

8 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

How is it looking? Is it still getting pushed out? Or is early Jan still looking good for a SSW.

EPS was pretty unchanged vs yesterday, still showing a quarter of members or so going full wind reversal in the second week of Jan. 

[MossMan]

24 minutes ago, Snownerd3000 said:

Holy sh!t that is uncanny.  If I didn't see the date I'd assume Phil wrote this the other day.

Goes to show you that a lot can change in just a few weeks time. 

[Deweydog]

One thing worth mentioning is the fact there was a PV split/major warming event in January 2003…

[Dave]

27 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

It's addictive and a blast. I did a bunch of extreme back country riding 10 years ago and actually am in several films climbing avalanche chutes. My snowmobile had 400hp lol. Also would just go out and cruise and enjoy.  It's actually a bunch or exercise and you have to be an athlete to go ride hard all day

 

400hp on a sled lol. They generally weigh only 400-500lbs. I bet it could do 0-60 in under 4 seconds even on the snow. And yes, riding aggressively takes some physical strength. I was completely wiped out after a couple of days of riding for 60+ miles. It isn't required to ride in avalanche terrain to have a good time though.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

8 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Goes to show you that a lot can change in just a few weeks time. 

Clown range cuts both ways.

[RentonHill]

11 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

One thing worth mentioning is the fact there was a PV split/major warming event in January 2003…

 

[Cold Snap]

The Snoqualmie valley is still quite flooded. Not all the roads are back open yet.

[SouthHillFrosty]

Drunkle showed up. Santa might come early with gifts!!!!

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I don't think there was quite as much doom and gloom at this point, but yeah, by late January we were apoplectic. @MossMan can find many many posts where myself and others were writing off winter. 

Justin was absolutely convinced it was time to stick a fork in it.

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, Dave said:

To Mossman, I gotta to say you have to try snowmobiling. I've seen your hundreds of images on your jetski so it isn't that different. But in the middle of winter on top of 15 feet of snow with snow covered mountains everywhere is a world unknown to most. Give it a shot. Of course all the different hobbies need $$ which sucks. Snowmilizer will point you in the right direction if you want to try.

I've gone a couple of times with other beginners...one thing I learned is you definitely want to have an experienced rider who knows how to get you unstuck if you're riding in deep, soft snow.

Definitely a blast, though.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Front Ranger said:

I've gone a couple of times with other beginners...one thing I learned is you definitely want to have an experienced rider who knows how to get you unstuck if you're riding in deep, soft snow.

Definitely a blast, though.

We don't have to worry about deep snow this winter. Maybe hitting rocks though!

[Rubus Leucodermis]

18Z Euro looking good for MBY.

[Snownerd3000]

 

[Ken in Wood Village]

Looks like there could be a good East Wind event coming between the 15th and the 17th. I've been seeing this for the last few days. What I've been noticing is an up trend on how strong the winds are getting. Since this will be over next weekend, I probably go up to Crown Point. 

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

Feels like snow. Already 36, dewpoint 33

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

2 hours ago, MossMan said:

We weren’t quite to this current level just yet, but things were very bleak here in January 2019…And Phil was keeping us updated regularly on the hopelessness…Just like right now.

Lmao. This sounds exactly like now. 

[Port Angeles Foothiller]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yeah that late February early March arctic blast into your region was pretty epic. 

I had over 60” here in 3 weeks. First storm dropped 34”. Upslope for the win. Snow piles didn’t melt till mid April. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

1 minute ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

I had over 60” here in 3 weeks. First storm dropped 34”. Upslope for the win. Snow piles didn’t melt till mid April. 

We had around 60” from early February through early March. Interestingly we never had a daily total over 6”, it just snowed almost everyday. 18 days with over 1” in February 2019. Incredible period, though the mid February through early April 2023 period was actually quite a bit snowier here. 

[BLI snowman]

51 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Justin was absolutely convinced it was time to stick a fork in it.

I remember Jared calling out the exact latitude/longitude landfall coordinates of the 2/25/2019 storm a few months out.

[Front Ranger]

5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

I remember Jared calling out the exact latitude/longitude landfall coordinates of the 2/25/2019 storm a few months out.

I don't recall that - but I trust your memory!

[Rubus Leucodermis]

29 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Feels like snow. Already 36, dewpoint 33

Same temperature here. And yes, it does.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Fountains in Salem. December 1972

[Omegaraptor]

12z Euro and 12z/druncle GFS are about as depressing as it gets for the Oregon Cascades. Not buying a season pass this year might have been the right move.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

12z Euro and 12z/druncle GFS are about as depressing as it gets for the Oregon Cascades. Not buying a season pass this year might have been the right move.

Absolutely. I remember the 2004-05 dud. In many ways it was actually worse than 02-03 down here… If you factor in the fact October 2002 had a terrific backdoor blast, 04-05 was worse here. 

[TigerWoodsLibido]

4 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

12z Euro and 12z/druncle GFS are about as depressing as it gets for the Oregon Cascades. Not buying a season pass this year might have been the right move.

I wonder how much places like Hoodoo are gonna struggle financially this regular season?

[SilverFallsAndrew]

8 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

I wonder how much places like Hoodoo are gonna struggle financially this regular season?

Hoodoo diversified their portfolio after the 04-05’ debacle. They were only open a couple weeks that season. They manage a lot of campgrounds and recreational facilities through contracts with the forest service. 

[SouthHillFrosty]

NAM looks good!

 

[Cascadia_Wx]

5 hours ago, Deweydog said:

12/8 and Fred is threatening to shut the place down and Tim’s EPS proclivities are becoming a point of obsession.

It’s definitely not coming.

Give me a break. As if T*m doesn’t crave toxic attention more than a Kardashian.

Edited December 9, 2023 by Cascadia_Wx

[TT-SEA]

14 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Give me a break. As if T*m doesn’t crave toxic attention more than a Kardashian.

You are so petty.   Pathetic.   

[Cascadia_Wx]

Actually scored sub-50 highs the last two days. PDX even squeaked by with one today. First of the month!

47/41 yesterday with scattered showers.

Almost felt wintery today with partly to mostly cloudy skies and gradual clearing by evening. 46/40 spread so far but already back down to 40 now, so should improve on that low by midnight.

[MossMan]

10 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

NAM looks good!

 

I’m in the blue! 

[SouthHillFrosty]

Just now, MossMan said:

I’m in the blue! 

I’m optimistic regardless of the sentiment on here. Could be the best chance for flakes all year. 

[Cascadia_Wx]

Took a jaunt up to Government Camp yesterday afternoon to see some pass level snowfall. Chilly and windy up there with snow squalls and a temp around 30. Heading up, the snow started just past Laurel Hill. Heading down, the snow level had dropped about 1,500’ lower than where it was earlier, and there was a rain/snow mix even down in Welches.

Accumulated a quick 2-4 inches of snow in the couple hours we were up there. I’m sure they did pretty well overnight.

 

Edited December 9, 2023 by Cascadia_Wx

[LowerGarfield]

Someone at NWS Spokane reads this forum. I never heard the phrase "winter cancel" until this forum. This is from the winter spotter newsletter for NWS Spokane.

[Dave]

1 hour ago, Front Ranger said:

I've gone a couple of times with other beginners...one thing I learned is you definitely want to have an experienced rider who knows how to get you unstuck if you're riding in deep, soft snow.

Definitely a blast, though.

Getting unstuck is part of the fun. I was cruising along and observed a poor dude that dumped his ride into a huge ditch on the side of the trail. I stopped to help him and a few minutes later my bro did as well and we figured out a way out of the ditch after about 15 minutes. I've never met a more appreciative person other than that in my entire lifetime. It made me super happy. Snowmobilers almost always are willing to give a helping hand.

[GHweatherChris]

Seattle NWS is not biting at all at the chance of any lowish level snow.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

3 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Seattle NWS is not biting at all at the chance of any lowish level snow.

Foolish. The chance is real.

[SouthHillFrosty]

3 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Seattle NWS is not biting at all at the chance of any lowish level snow.

 

They always down play snow lol

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Foolish. The chance is real.

Seems like Hood Canal is almost a lock.

[GHweatherChris]

3 minutes ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

Foolish. The chance is real.

Yep, if the airmass right now was just a bit colder it would be fairly decent more region wide overrunning event, I wouldn't be shocked to at least see a mix out this way for a bit at some point tomorrow.