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So the potential for the second week or possibly 3rd week of January looks fantastic. Base off of various ensemble runs and the GFS op runs continues to show the block retrograde back to GoA in the LR, this looks to set the table for arctic air to move back to us after the fake cold. Can't really ask for anything better if you're a cold fan. An exciting January on tap. 

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3 hours ago, Mr Marine Layer said:

Happy New Year. The first crime of 2022 was just committed here with some guys shooting illegal fireworks.

we did firecra-ckers here illeg-ally brought from japan in a large shi-pment

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1 hour ago, DJ Droppin said:

6z same progression as previous runs. After day 7 big ridge develops over us. Inversions strengthens, low level cold pool develops and intensifies quickly with big time east winds.

It's almost a carbon copy of what happened in January 2013. Clipper with a shot of cold air, and then the inversion. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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1 hour ago, DJ Droppin said:

La Grande hit -18? No way!

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As far as I can tell looking at their current station and the defunct station that went 1948-1965, it is tied with 12/23/1983 as the 2nd coldest temp in the 1948-present period of record, and within reach of the -20 from January 1950. You have to remember that area is very windy and they almost never decouple, which is why their record lows are so mild when compared to Baker City. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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-17 at Burns, OR

Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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6*F Hit here at BLI for a moment before jumping up to 19*. Coldest low of the snap. Impressive streak of temps here. 
From 12/25-12-31 BLI averaged 24.3* high and 12.1* low with stand out lows of 9,7 and 6*f. Puke on them for not measuring snow. I think they probably would have totaled around 16” at the airport. Parents place near Lake Whatcom had 20” total. 

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We got down to 15.6* last night. So, I was wrong about not getting below 16.3*, which was our previous lowest low this last week.  Now, can I be wrong about getting rain instead of snow, Sunday/Monday too? Cause that would be swell. :) 

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Good morning and happy new year!  Love that 2021 ended and 2022 started with so much beautiful snow on the ground.  Hopefully it is a hint of good times ahead.  We had a low of 19 this morning and now up to 21.  

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1 minute ago, MossMan said:

Up to 22 and my roof is leaking! 

Welcome to the wonderful world of ice dams!

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Klamath Falls had -1 this morning, first time in 2 years they hit below zero. Last winter the minimum was 8. lol

The record is -10 for January 1st in 2016 though (old record -3 in 1988). 

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Ashland, KY Weather

'21-'22 Cold Season

Snowfall - 16.1"
December: 0.1"
January: 9.9"
February: 1.3"
March: 4.8"

Snow days: 10 - 4.8" - 3/12
Cold Highs (32 or below): 7
Coolest: 21 (Jan 7th)
Extreme Lows (below 10): 4 
Minimum: 5 (Jan 22nd)
Max wind: 40mph (Feb 18th)

Thunders: 24
3/6, 3/23, 4/7, 4/11, 4/30, 5/1, 5/3, 5/6, 5/14, 5/16
5/20, 5/21, 5/27, 6/2, 6/6, 6/8, 6/13, 6/17, 6/22, 6/25
6/26, 6/27, 7/1, 7/2, 

Tornado Watches/Warnings: 2 / 0 
Severe T'storm Watches/Warnings: 3 / 2
Frequent Lightning: 2 (5/20), (6/13)
Hailstorms: 0
Max Wind: 50mph (6/13)

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[Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021]
https://imgur.com/SuGTijl

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51 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Welcome to the wonderful world of ice dams!

I wonder if we went with a metal roof and pumped in a little more insulation if that would eliminate this ice damming issue. Well I’m about to go out now that it’s getting light enough and start chipping away at the ice. 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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13 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I wonder if we went with a metal roof and pumped in a little more insulation if that would eliminate this ice damming issue. Well I’m about to go out now that it’s getting light enough and start chipping away at the ice. 

Next time you visit some place like Roslyn or Leavenworth, pay attention to the roofing materials. Typically metal. Snow and ice tend to naturally slide off before they build up to ridiculous levels.

Biggest problem with metal on the West Side is that falling branches tend to poke holes in it.

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It's called clown range for a reason.

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19 minutes ago, MossMan said:

I wonder if we went with a metal roof and pumped in a little more insulation if that would eliminate this ice damming issue. Well I’m about to go out now that it’s getting light enough and start chipping away at the ice. 

A less expensive option might be to check out Gutter Helmet.  Not sure if this would address your exact problem but it looks like it will reduce the chance of ice damming to me.

 

https://harryhelmet.com/micro/gutter-helmet/?source=brandppc&city=seattle&utm_term=gutter helmet&utm_campaign=SMG+-+Seattle+-+Gutters+-+Brand&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=9638732790&hsa_cam=12197214677&hsa_grp=117237664996&hsa_ad=495022428135&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-131412660&hsa_kw=gutter helmet&hsa_mt=p&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIusjrg_SQ9QIVjhmtBh1nxQBgEAAYAiAAEgLSxPD_BwE

 

 

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La Grande appears to have set their all-time low. Looks like they hit -22, breaking the record of -20 from 1/31/1950. Amazing. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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Looks like we hit 19 this morning. First low in the teens since March 2019, an embarrassingly long stretch.

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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We were 17 below at 9pm headed for a record but the clouds rolled in and we stayed at about minus 15. BTW I'd bet the 5 at bremerton is suspect, when I get home if I didn't get down to 9 or 10 then the bremerton reading is definitely suspect.  

We come from the land of the ice and snow.

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1 hour ago, MossMan said:

I wonder if we went with a metal roof and pumped in a little more insulation if that would eliminate this ice damming issue. Well I’m about to go out now that it’s getting light enough and start chipping away at the ice. 

Pics or it didn't happen!  Good luck.

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My parents got down to -2. 

-9 in Kuna, Idaho this morning!

Home Weather Station Stats (starting Dec. 25 2021)

High - 78.3

Lowest High - 23.6

Low - 15.6

Sub 40 highs - 13

Sub-freezing highs - 5

Lows below 25 - 6

Lows below 20 - 1

2021-2022 Snowfall - 10.9''

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23f and a nice sunrise.  Looks like we best enjoy the sun and cold today as it looks pretty wet and more normal temps most of the week here.  Rivers are going to blow so no steelhead fishing to start the New Years.  Clackamas R at 12' headed to over 16'.  Sandy River at 9' headed to probably over 12' and I think those are conservative values.  Will depend on where the FL ends up.  These aren't flood stage levels but they're gonna pop pretty good.  Just glad it's not an AR.  Lot of low and mid level snow. 

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1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Next time you visit some place like Roslyn or Leavenworth, pay attention to the roofing materials. Typically metal. Snow and ice tend to naturally slide off before they build up to ridiculous levels.

Biggest problem with metal on the West Side is that falling branches tend to poke holes in it.

Many places here in Leavenworth have snow guards to prevent sliding and protect the roof.  It also prevents enormous piles of snow from accumulating underneath, which can pile so high that it reaches the underneath of the roof and takes forever to melt in the spring.

Our building codes require that roofs can handle large snow loads so no worries that the roof can collapse.

It also is more asthetically pleasing.

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1 minute ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said:

Many places here in Leavenworth have snow guards to prevent sliding and protect the roof.  It also prevents enormous piles of snow from accumulating underneath, which can pile so high that it reaches the underneath of the roof and takes forever to melt in the spring.

Our building codes require that roofs can handle large snow loads so no worries that the roof can collapse.

It also is more asthetically pleasing.

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Do you have a picture of these snowguards without snow on them?

Home Weather Station Stats (starting Dec. 25 2021)

High - 78.3

Lowest High - 23.6

Low - 15.6

Sub 40 highs - 13

Sub-freezing highs - 5

Lows below 25 - 6

Lows below 20 - 1

2021-2022 Snowfall - 10.9''

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16 minutes ago, jakerepp said:

Do you have a picture of these snowguards without snow on them?

First is a house with a metal roof where the snow slides, illustrating my point about how it piles up. And note another slide was imminent when I took the picture.  Not my house, I work at that house but don't live there.

Next 2 are my house.  Different kind of guards over my garage than the house they were installed at different times.

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Got down to a low of 14.9 after a 31/15 spread yesterday.

5 of the past 6 days had highs below freezing with two of those days having low temps in the teens. Still think we could have had a bit better luck on the low temps but overall, pretty impressive stretch. 

Weather station: https://sodakweather.com

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My low was 10.7 and it occurred at 12:30am.  High clouds moved in, otherwise I'm sure I would have been near 5 degrees or possibly lower.  Currently 21.5, calm and cloudy.  I loved the weather this past year, with the exception of late June, but the year itself was the worst ever for me and I thought having a worse year than 2020 would be impossible.  I pray this year will be a great blessing to all of us.

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Happy New Year everyone! What are everyone's thoughts on scouring out the cold air? Models and mets seem (mostly) insistent that we will be well above freezing when precip arrives, but that seems dicey at best to me, especially given my anecdotal experiences in the past. Thoughts?

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GFS showing enough to keep things interesting. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 82.13" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 

 

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This morning was actually the warmest morning of the whole event here. I was down to 16F at 6 pm last night, but then hovered in the mid 20s for the rest of the night with the clouds.

Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.24 (2010)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 5.8"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5"

2021-22: 21.75" (12/24: Tr, 12/25: 5", 12/26: 3", 12/27: 1.5", 12/28: Tr, 12/29: 1", 12/30: 3", 1/5: 2.5", 1/6: 1", 2/2: Tr, 2/21: 1.5", 2/22: 0.75", 2/23: 1.5", 2/24: 1")

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