LowerGarfield Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: As for the home thing. It's really tough. The market got really hot in the mid-2000s, and then crashed with the Great Recession. With COVID we have seen the market continue to heat up. Inventory is extremely low, if we don't see inventory increase dramatically prices will just continue to go higher as supply stays tight. Part of the problem is people are just holding now, no one wants to sell unless they are moving out of state because it's so hard to buy. There is really no such thing as a "starter home" anymore it seems. I read California has a deficit of about 2.3 million single family homes. There is no chance that gets made up, I'm sure Oregon and Washington have a large deficit of homes needed to meet demand as well. Part of the problem, and I'll try not to make this too political, is that it is extremely difficult to get large housing tracts approved on the West Coast (And when new construction does get approved regulation and permitting can add 75-100K to the cost of a single family home in California.). One of the reasons housing is less expensive in places like Texas and Oklahoma is because there is almost no regulation around building, supply is constantly increasing, and families frequently upgrade, so there are always a lot of homes on the market. Also out there you see, low, medium, and high end construction. In the PNW almost all new construction is on the higher end of the market because it's so limited the builders are going to go where the profit is. I don't see the situation getting any better any time soon. Even if prices dropped 10-20% at some point they would still be extremely high. I worry about it because at some point if only high income earners can attain home ownership, then I think we could see not only a society where we do not value private property, but where private property owners are resented and eventually are targeted politically or through ever increasing tax burdens. I borrowed a book thinking it was more about hiking and nature but it was some book that called for folks to enter private property. I made it about one chapter in before returning it In regards to the weather. The snow is melting quite quickly but at least I feel my measurement earlier today was accurate as melting had not really begun here until about 930 or 10am. 1 Quote Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA: 2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24. Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24 Days with trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T) First Freeze: 10/27/2023 Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24) Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24) Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 33 years ago right now global warming was a thing. 1 1 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 About 24hrs straight of drizzle now. Fun!! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, MossMan said: About 24hrs straight of drizzle now. Fun!! Same here! 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Looks like Silver Falls came in with a -0.3 departure for January. Their slightly lower elevation in the canyon helped them stay colder than us. I haven't calculated our numbers for January yet, but I'm almost certain we were a couple degrees warmer. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, quacksax said: Check home values in “desirable” areas like Plano, Frisco, Las Colinas, etc. To be somewhere decent, it’s not what I’d call “cheap”. Keep in mind that property taxes in Texas are insane. Sure, they’re getting some snow right now, but it’s still quite rare and May-October is guaranteed sweltering heat and humidity. The UHI often keeps overnight lows above 80 degrees. There’s every manner of biting insect and reptile. It’s unpleasant to be outside for the majority of the year. Not that you’d want to anyway because the landscape is flat, uninteresting and scoured with highways and suburban sprawl. Hope your friend has fun with that. You guys don’t realize how good you’ve got it here in the PNW. Yeah, Texas is not a place to move for winter weather. It's more likely to be in the 70s in February than in the 20s. 4 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Here is what 650K will get you in the town I used to live in... I enjoyed the climate there. Though it does cook in the summer. Was there last weekend, on Saturday it was 66/13. Today is 19/14. https://www.redfin.com/OK/BARTLESVILLE/1800-COUNTRY-CLUB-RD-74006/home/78984915 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 How about we all move to Winthrop…Currently 26 degrees and sunny with still nearly 2 feet of snow on the ground! 5 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Here is something a little more modest... And this is probably about 50K more than it would have been 5-6 years ago... https://www.redfin.com/OK/Bartlesville/1208-S-Johnstone-Ave-74003/home/83042376 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Here is what 650K will get you in the town I used to live in... I enjoyed the climate there. Though it does cook in the summer. Was there last weekend, on Saturday it was 66/13. Today is 19/14. https://www.redfin.com/OK/BARTLESVILLE/1800-COUNTRY-CLUB-RD-74006/home/78984915 Just 4 bedrooms and 6 bathrooms and an indoor pool on an acre of land for 650K. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, MossMan said: How about we all move to Winthrop…Currently 26 degrees and sunny with still nearly 2 feet of snow on the ground! Wonder how much that red building is worth? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Wonder how much that red building is worth? 5 million buckz. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 Been absolutely pouring here all evening. Streams running thru the neighborhood streets. There's at least 1.5" that fell at KDWU. Airport says its snowing but I was just out there and heavy rain still. 1 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Deweydog said: Wonder how much that red building is worth? Found it on Zillow... assessed at $312,200. Its actually the Winthrop Town Hall. 1 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Timmy_Supercell said: Been absolutely pouring here all evening. Streams running thru the neighborhood streets. There's at least 1.5" that fell at KDWU. Airport says its snowing but I was just out there and heavy rain still. Aren’t you flipping to ZR tonight? Upper levels look kinda warm for snow. You’re def on the cold side of the apps for this one. Meanwhile, we’re going to warm up through the night, approaching 60°F by sunrise. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Found it on Zillow... assessed at $312.200. Its actually the Winthrop Town Hall. Yep and I believe that is also where the public restroom are along the side of it! It’s my go to stop when traveling over HWY 20! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 3, 2022 Report Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, MossMan said: Yep and I believe that is also where the public restroom are along the side of it! It’s my go to stop when traveling over HWY 20! Well then its priceless! 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Drizzle stopped... 25 hours. Pretty wimpy. We have gone a week straight a few times here. 1 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Mode Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Is this a real estate forum now 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Drizzle stopped... 25 hours. Pretty wimpy. We have gone a week straight a few times here. 4yrs ago today you went to Ellensburg to escape that endless run of drizzle and rain we were in! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Drizzle stopped... 25 hours. Pretty wimpy. We have gone a week straight a few times here. Severe clear here in the great NW desert. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, MossMan said: 4yrs ago today you went to Ellensburg to escape that endless run of drizzle and rain we were in! I remember that trip! And also remember the first half of February 2018 being an endless drizzle fest. This was nothing like that and there does not appear to be anything like that ahead. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 48/41 today in Tacoma. Mountain came out a little bit out here in eatonville again. 5 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: I remember that trip! And also remember the first half of February 2018 being an endless drizzle fest. This was nothing like that and there does not appear to be anything like that ahead. But I would endure that again to get the late Feb 2018 repeat! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chewbacca Defense Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 8 hours ago, ShawniganLake said: Guardians? That’s almost as bad as the Washington commanders. 1 2 4 Quote Britton Rd Bellingham Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KWABELLI103?cm_ven=localwx_pwsdash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said: Me last February... Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Here is a real estate agent and his take on the pros and cons of living in North Bend... from a just a few months ago. He really does a good job and I agree with him on just about every point on the good and bad. The footage in these videos is absolutely stunning. Even the video about the negatives is incredibly beautiful. Side note... one of the negatives he mentions is that it snows here. I disagree with that take. Pros: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GLXzPsm3Uo Cons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVUZ9YL9t-E 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Really no hope in sight at this point. Dang. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, BLI snowman said: Really no hope in sight at this point. Dang. I think we might be toast until next season. Fingers crossed for a neutral or weak El Niño. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, MossMan said: I think we might be toast until next season. Fingers crossed for a neutral or weak El Niño. I don’t have any hope for next winter. Hate to say it but we’re due for a snowless dud probably. 2 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blob Posted February 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Does anyone know of good PNW desert spots? I've been itching to go to the desert lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Can a few miles really make that much of a difference? Still dumping buckets out there yet for the last 4 hours our airport has been saying snow. Or the sensor needs to get checked out. 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 16 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Stay off the coke Judah 1 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, The Blob said: Does anyone know of good PNW desert spots? I've been itching to go to the desert lately. Go to Joshua’s house. About as dry as it gets. 1 3 1 1 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 hour ago, BLI snowman said: Really no hope in sight at this point. Dang. January 2023 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Tyler Mode said: Is this a real estate forum now 2 2 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Town Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Stepbrothers rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awright-31 Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 02-02-2022 (Twos-day Jr.) OBS for MBY (Real twos-day will be on 2-22-22) High temp - 42* at 7:45 pm Low temp - 28* at 12:15 am New precip - 0.04" February precip to date- 0.04" We have recieved <1% of our normal February precip 7% of the way through the month. New snow - 0" Winter 21-22 Snow to Date - 10.9" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted February 4, 2022 Report Share Posted February 4, 2022 Wonder what Jim’s house is worth in cold anomalies? 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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