Thunder98 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Omegaraptor said: Guess the month these obs were taken. Lol July 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 This feels like a spring version of February-March or September-October 2019… constant troughing in the NW. Both of those patterns lasted about a month and a half, and we’re about at a month of this pattern at this point. So hopefully we’re running out the clock. Amazingly some of the deciduous trees around here are just barely budding… and it’s mid May. The vegetation is way behind schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: This feels like a spring version of February-March or September-October 2019… everlasting troughing in the NW. Both of those patterns lasted about a month and a half, and we’re about at a month of this pattern at this point. So hopefully we’re running out the clock. So we'll see a return to constant troughing in November/December and then a dry/cold January???? 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 18z looked fairly moist. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: So we'll see a return to constant troughing in November/December and then a dry/cold January???? Certainly wouldn’t mind. And for consistent extended cold patterns in December and January… we certainly saw that in 2016-17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: Certainly wouldn’t mind. And for consistent extended cold patterns in December and January… we certainly saw that in 2016-17. The storm on the 10th of January was absolutely insane for me. 13 inches of snow and 40+ mph winds, and thunder. And the snow lasted for a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said: This feels like a spring version of February-March or September-October 2019… constant troughing in the NW. Both of those patterns lasted about a month and a half, and we’re about at a month of this pattern at this point. So hopefully we’re running out the clock. Amazingly some of the deciduous trees around here are just barely budding… and it’s mid May. The vegetation is way behind schedule. Yeah.. the fact that the vegetation can finish fully leafing out is really strange. And as each day passes it gets more strange because the weather is not going to help at all for at least the next 2 weeks and probably longer. I do think we will suddenly break out of this pattern eventually... likely in early June and then it will suddenly feel like summer. Not hot... but much more reasonable for the warm season. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Doiinko said: The storm on the 10th of January was absolutely insane for me. 13 inches of snow and 40+ mph winds, and thunder. And the snow lasted for a week. I was in San Antonio on 1/10/17. It was 81 degrees. Flight back home got cancelled and we spent a night in Vegas waiting for them to clear the airport. So I didn’t watch the actual event unfold but I got back for the foot of snow on the ground. However I was in Sunriver for the week around Christmas 2016. Only time I’ve ever witnessed the mercury drop below zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 SLE is over 2.5” on the month now. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, Doiinko said: I thought they said that not enough SO2 was released to have a noticeable effect on our weather? I don't know much though. Not enough SO^2 to lower global temperatures. But lots of other stuff was ejected as well, water vapor in particular. It could have a significant impact on the global heat/radiation budget and general circulation. 4 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Not a fan of the 18z puking a bunch of snow on the passes right before my field trip… but I’ve accepted that is the most likely outcome. We will probably go to southeast Portland instead and to Powell Butte and other features. The Boring Lava Fields are more interesting than I thought they were. Similar to the field in central Mexico that Paricutin is part of, actually. On the bright side (and this is a pretty big bright side) the Southwest gets in on the party. Would significantly lessen CA’s drought going into summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Yeah.. the fact that the vegetation can finish fully leafing out is really strange. And as each day passes it gets more strange because the weather is not going to help at all for at least the next 2 weeks and probably longer. I do think we will suddenly break out of this pattern eventually... likely in early June and then it will suddenly feel like summer. Not hot... but much more reasonable for the warm season. I don’t think it’ll be “sudden” at all. But at some point there has to be breaks in the troughing, right? I’m surprised how persistent it has been. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Impressive. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, Phil said: Impressive. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Is anyone else sick to death of this pattern yet? I like the below normal temps, but does it have to be THIS gloomy? 2 1 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: Is anyone else sick to death of this pattern yet? I like the below normal temps, but does it have to be THIS gloomy? No this is fine. 6 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Is anyone else sick to death of this pattern yet? I like the below normal temps, but does it have to be THIS gloomy? Reading this forum I doubt you are the only one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, Phil said: Impressive. This is the kind of stuff a highly amplifed regime dishes out. If it's going to be 1930s like I hope we eventually get into some of the cold / drier stuff we saw during that decade. I expect we will see a number of rather extreme and persistent regimes set up over the next several years as we did back then. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: Is anyone else sick to death of this pattern yet? I like the below normal temps, but does it have to be THIS gloomy? I am sure its most everyone in western WA at this point. Not going to change this month. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: No this is fine. This is seriously cutting into the time of year we should be able to enjoy doing outdoor activities. I've been doing stuff outside, but it's been in spite of less than favorable conditions. Many times lately I have been the only one outdoors in my neigborhood. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: This is seriously cutting into the time of year we should be able to enjoy doing outdoor activities. I've been doing stuff outside, but it's been in spite of less than favorable conditions. Many times lately I have been the only one outdoors in my neigborhood. Maybe if January and February hadn’t been so lame we wouldn’t have needed all this rain. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Maybe if January and February hadn’t been so lame we wouldn’t have needed all this rain. We are about 8 inches above normal for the water... and SEA has received more than 40 inches of rain in the last 7 months. We sure don't need any more rain up here. So we get the worst of both worlds. As usual. 4 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Maybe if January and February hadn’t been so lame we wouldn’t have needed all this rain. The cold wave in Feb was nice. More precipitation then would've been better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Doiinko said: The cold wave in Feb was nice. More precipitation then would've been better though. Yes. I was speaking more of precip. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said: Yes. I was speaking more of precip. Ah okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 According to some weather stations near me, we somehow managed a subfreezing high on the 27th of December? With a midnight high of 31-32 depending on the station. Looks like PDX recorded a high of 34 on that day. That's pretty nice considering most of the arctic air didn't make it down here. I hope the southern Willamette Valley can manage one at some point next winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Doiinko said: According to some weather stations near me, we somehow managed a subfreezing high on the 27th of December? With a midnight high of 31-32 depending on the station. Looks like PDX recorded a high of 34 on that day. That's pretty nice considering most of the arctic air didn't make it down here. I hope the southern Willamette Valley can manage one at some point next winter. I was in Sunriver when that went down - one of the top stretches of winter weather I've seen. Just incredible amounts of snow especially on Mt Bachelor. Every snow forecast just massively overperformed. Likewise, only thing that was kind of lame was getting shafted on Arctic air. Models were showing temps well below zero until a few days before... then rugpulled the Arctic air up into northern WA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Omegaraptor said: I was in Sunriver when that went down - one of the top stretches of winter weather I've seen. Just incredible amounts of snow especially on Mt Bachelor. Every snow forecast just massively overperformed. Likewise, only thing that was kind of lame was getting shafted on Arctic air. Models were showing temps well below zero until a few days before... then rugpulled the Arctic air up into northern WA. That must've been great to experience! Yeah, I'm hoping the arctic air can make it all the way next time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 When even a big time cold-weather fan like Jim starts griping about the below-normal temperatures, you KNOW it's been going on for a LONG time! 1 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 53/46 0.15” today. Today was our 6th day below 55 this month. We had 6 sub 55 highs in 2012. We had 8 sub 55 highs in 2010 and 2011. Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skagit Weather Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Instead of moping around, we might as well cheer for records/extremes. One that we can still root for is the fewest spring days at SEA above 60F! We're currently at 9 and the record low number is 19 from 2011 and 1955. After today we'll have 19 days left to not pick up another 10. Currently it looks like Sat/Sun/Mon will be close, but then it appears that we may stay below 60F for the beginning of next week. Average is about 35 so even if we hit 60F every day from now on out, we've thankfully dodged that bullet. 3 Quote Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008): Max Temp: 96.3F (2009) Min Temp: 2.0F (2008) Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021) Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22) Avg Yearly Precip: 37" 10yr Avg Snow: 8.0" Snowfall Totals '08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWaWx Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Skagit Weather said: Instead of moping around, we might as well cheer for records/extremes. One that we can still root for is the fewest spring days at SEA above 60F! We're currently at 9 and the record low number is 19 from 2011 and 1955. After today we'll have 19 days left to not pick up another 10. Currently it looks like Sat/Sun/Mon will be close, but then it appears that we may stay below 60F for the beginning of next week. One aspect of this recent stretch of weather has been the statistics of it. Everyone knows I’m big into the stats but this has been a very interesting run of fun records that have been set regionally. Not to mention what I thought was impossible snow event in mid April SW WA and Portland. We even got a little snow up here! 5 Quote Tacoma WA elevation 300’ Monthly rainfall-3.56” Warm season rainfall-11.14” Max temp-88 +80 highs-2 +85 highs-2 +90 highs-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Sad to see PDX bumping into the upper 50s with clearing. Looks like the central and south valley hung onto clouds a little longer. We are down to 41 with the rain ending. Very wet day again. 0.90” on the day, up to 6.82” on the month. We are looking at another 1/2 to 1” tomorrow night, could get us into the top 10 for wet May’s. 46/39 today. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 43 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said: When even a big time cold-weather fan like Jim starts griping about the below-normal temperatures, you KNOW it's been going on for a LONG time! He differs from Jesse and I in that he prefers drier cold troughing... Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 And just like that the roads are dry again. Back to square one… Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Gorgeous spring evening in Seattle. 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 Looks like a -15 or so departure at Eugene for the high. Will probably end up with a midnight low as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: Gorgeous spring evening in Seattle. My sons are at UW frat party outdoors this evening. My weather geek son asked me about c-zone placement this evening. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 I’d love to see Chris hit a straight drive in this. 2 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 39 and raining. In mid May. Wow! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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