Front Ranger Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Phil said: Go back to it. Beer is godawful for your health. Coke and vodka, on the other hand, are both fantastic for health. 2 2 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Deweydog said: I feel like we’re dealing with a Stampede Pass Phil throwback tonight. Cooler times ahead??? Stampede Pass Phil was a drunk lying troll. Present day Phil is just drunk. And sometimes a troll. 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FroYoBro Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: I could bump many posts about a chilly second half of July if I were a less magnanimous guy. I conceited early on that this would likely be a serious payback summer... like 1999 or 2001 or worse. That is what happens when a Nina is exploding in the warm season. Right? This summer has been pretty much the complete opposite at this point. You guys going to do a 7 minutes in heaven type thing at the forum meetup?!!!!!??!??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said: Tomorrow PDX will tie July 1941 and August 1981 for 6 consecutive days at/above 95 degrees. Then on Sunday they will have a chance to set a new all-time record at 7 days. And in the obscure record section, tonight will in all likelihood be day six in a row of 65+ degree lows. Would tie the record set last August. 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Phil said: You’re warmer than me! 72 and pea soup fog here. But temp is warming instead of cooling again. 72 and foggy? I might seek out a puppy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Phil is grumpy tonight! 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Cloud said: And amazingly, only 1 record breaker so far. That 2009 stretch was also a good one. Not even close to the record 103 today and don't think it'll touch the 96 tomorrow either. Anything below 94 from 7/15 - 8/15 is weak sauce. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: I could bump many posts about a chilly second half of July if I were a less magnanimous guy. I conceited early on that this would likely be a serious payback summer... like 1999 or 2001 or worse. That is what happens when a Nina is exploding in the warm season. Right? This summer has been pretty much the complete opposite at this point. The last 3 weeks have been. Drop in the bucket on a seasonal timescale though. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Phil said: You’re warmer than me! 72 and pea soup fog here. But temp is warming instead of cooling again. The fog only seems possible at my place in the mid-upper 60's at the highest and only when the sun is going up. I think you've said a few times you can get 80 and fog? Nuts. Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 21 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dave said: 72 and foggy? I might seek out a puppy. 1 3 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Was just looking at some July stats for SEA.. 19 out of the 31 days produced record highs since the 2000s. 15 of 19 happened within last 8-12 years. Oldest standing record is July 10, 1945 with a 90. I'd be shock if this date don't produce a new record w/in the next 3-5 years for this date. Our climate is changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Supercell Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Deweydog said: And in the obscure record section, tonight will in all likelihood be day six in a row of 65+ degree lows. Would tie the record set last August. NWS should do away with using terms like "old record" in these crazy times. Take Portland's heatwave last year for example. 112 beating the "old" record set yesterday, 116 beating the "old" record set yesterday... Klamath Falls beating the old record of days in a row >100 (3 days) set June 2021... 1 Quote Ashland, KY Weather '23-'24 Winter Snowfall - 5.50" First freeze: 11/1 (32) Minimum: 2 on 1/17 Measurable snows: 4 Max 1 day snow: 3" (1/19) Thunders: 21 1/27, 1/28, 2/10, 2/22, 2/27, 2/28, 3/5, 3/6, 3/14, 3/15 3/26, 3/30, 3/31, 4/2, 4/3, 4/8, 5/4, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 5/8, Severe storms: 2 ------------------------------------------------------- [Klamath Falls, OR 2010 to 2021] https://imgur.com/SuGTijl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Phil said: The last 3 weeks have been. Drop in the bucket on a seasonal timescale though. Last part of June was also warm. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Just now, Timmy Supercell said: The fog only seems possible at my place in the mid-upper 60's and only when the sun is going up. I think you've said a few times you can get 80 and fog? Nuts. It was 81 and foggy at 1230pm today after a rain shower. Doesn’t help that Potomac water temp hit 91°F last week and I live right next to it. Or that 11” of rain has fallen this month. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWx Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 77 here. Have had the box fans running for a few hours now and it’s been effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Last part of June was also warm. And the early part of July was cool. In the grand scheme of things it hasn’t been warm for very long. Fits within the subseasonal band. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 I decided to find that article about the Tonga eruption potentially causing a bit of global warming. https://www.science.org/content/article/massive-undersea-eruption-filled-atmosphere-water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWx Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Todays our 4th consecutive +90…only other years to do that since I’ve been recording weather is July 2006 and July 2009. Never done 5 in a row but we could do 6 and just blow the record out of the water. Haven’t had more than 5 +90s in an entire summer either and we will be at 6 tomorrow. Get the feeling we will get 1 or 2 more in august to really solidify 2022 as the top dog for +90s. Why can’t we just keep the +90s to 0-2 per year like we did in 2019 and 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Last part of June was also warm. OLM was below their long term average for June this year. Pretty cool month if you look outside the UHI comparisons. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dave said: I decided to find that article about the Tonga eruption potentially causing a bit of global warming. https://www.science.org/content/article/massive-undersea-eruption-filled-atmosphere-water Key paragraphs here: But the actual effects on climate will likely take time to understand, says Allegra LeGrande, a physical research scientist at NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies who was not involved with the work. “I don’t think there is a consensus about what the overall impact will be.” High above Earth, the water will likely react with other chemicals, potentially degrading the ozone layer that protects us from ultraviolet light, and even changing the circulation of air currents that govern weather patterns. 2 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Front Ranger said: OLM was below their long term average for June this year. Pretty cool month if you look outside the UHI comparisons. There was a heat wave in late June. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Deweydog Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, TacomaWx said: 77 here. Have had the box fans running for a few hours now and it’s been effective. 1 3 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: OLM was below their long term average for June this year. Pretty cool month if you look outside the UHI comparisons. Thank you. July isn’t over yet and we’re already making far reaching statements about the summer. Let’s see where we’re at after another 3 weeks. Narrative might be quite different by then. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 But warming is a distinct possibility and I am not just making it up. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, RentonHillTC said: Yeah that ain’t happening. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Just now, Phil said: Thank you. July isn’t over yet and we’re already making far reaching statements about the summer. Let’s see where we’re at after another 3 weeks. Narrative might be quite different by then. You two are gonna get jumped. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWx Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: OLM was below their long term average for June this year. Pretty cool month if you look outside the UHI comparisons. June was -0.1 here by 1991-2020 averages. I thought it was a very enjoyable month. Were +1.6 for July now and should finish +2-2.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Phil said: Thank you. July isn’t over yet and we’re already making far reaching statements about the summer. Let’s see where we’re at after another 3 weeks. Narrative might be quite different by then. A top tier hot July was not even supposed to be remotely possible this year. But it happened. It's already far different than all of those cold analog years we were using. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: But warming is a distinct possibility and I am not just making it up. The radiative effects get messier above the tropopause, though. There’s no guarantee there will any statistically significant warming from this, depending on the nature of the photochemical reactions and impact on global circulation/heat transport. I personally don’t think it’ll have any measurable effect on tropospheric temperatures. But the effects on global circulation could be quite significant. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 HCS potential back on the table for tomorrow. 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Just now, Phil said: The radiative effects get messier above the tropopause, though. There’s no guarantee there will any statistically significant warming from this depending on the nature of the photochemical reactions and impact on global circulation/heat transport. Of course... no guarantee. But it's not a far flung idea I just made up either. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Phil said: Yeah that ain’t happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Deweydog said: And in the obscure record section, tonight will in all likelihood be day six in a row of 65+ degree lows. Would tie the record set last August. Nice stat. Looking more into 1941, looks like it was going into a 3rd year El Nino. And 1981 was going into a 3rd year ENSO-Neutral. We're now headed into a 3rd year La Nina. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWx Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: OLM was below their long term average for June this year. Pretty cool month if you look outside the UHI comparisons. And yes…I remember last year some of us (myself included) were kinda making assumptions that 2021 would surpass 2015 here (it did for most places but not here). Best to wait and see. It seemed like a lock after the mid august heatwave but it cooled down in late august thankfully. You were right about that atleast here in Seattle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: A top tier hot July was not even supposed to be remotely possible this year. But it happened. It's already far different than all of those cold analog years we were using. Huh 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RentonHill Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Not a box fan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, RentonHillTC said: Dude.. f this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Of course... no guarantee. But it's not a far flung idea I just made up either. I didn’t say you made it up. IIRC I actually brought up the possibility before you did back in spring. Going against the grain here, but if the mass circulation responds the way I think it might, then the result might very well be a high amplitude blocking pattern to open the winter, maybe even a constructively interfering -NAO and -PNA, analogous to the evolution in 2010/11. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatyorologist Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, Phil said: I’m drinking vodka & diet coke tonight. Beer is overrated. Knew it!! 1 1 Quote Weather stats for MBY Snowfall: -Total snowfall since joining: 50.25" -2018-19: 21" -2019-20: 2.5" -2020-21: 13" -2021-22: 8.75" -2022-23: 5.75" -2023-24*: 0.25" -Most recent snowfall: 0.25”; January 17th, 2024 -Largest snowfall (single storm): 8.5"; February 12-13, 2021 -Largest snow depth: 14"; 1:30am February 12th, 2019 Temperatures: -Warmest: 109F; June 28th, 2021 -Coldest: 13F; December 27th, 2021 -Phreeze Count 2023-24: 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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