April 2017 Observations and Model Discussion for the Pacific Northwest

[Jesse]

I wouldn't be surprised if the oil industry employed a quarter to a third of all geologists in US during the height of the shale boom. Problem is half of them are laid off now, and don't have much of a hope of getting another geologist job in next 3-5 years after getting laid off, so you can't really call it a career.

Doesn't seem like you really have any sort of point to make. Alpine made a couple good ones.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Hopefully Trump will be able to slash pay and benefits, especially retirement, for civil servants. 

[epiceast]

Doesn't seem like you really have any sort of point to make. Alpine made a couple good ones.

... some posts are kinda filler posts, not very useful. I was just clarifying my point.

[epiceast]

Hopefully Trump will be able to slash pay and benefits, especially retirement, for civil servants. 

No we don't need more people making low wages.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

No we don't need more people making low wages.

 

Okay, keep their pay, cut the benefits and retirement. 

[Jesse]

Okay, keep their pay, cut the benefits and retirement.

**** them dude. I'm so angry!!!

[ShawniganLake]

0.8" of rain this morning. Brings my monthly total up ~2.8", which is average for the entire month of April.

[IbrChris]

Shouldn't expect to get 6 figures for the bolded. Shale oil geologist can make a lot more during boom times.

Plenty of mets both at NWS and in private sector in the $75,000 to $125,000 range. It's a typical mid to late career salary. Entry level is generally $50,000 or so.

[HighlandExperience]

**** them dude. I'm so angry!!!

 

Why are Trump voters so mad about other people doing well? 

[Jesse]

Why are Trump voters so mad about other people doing well?

Large constituency of bitter white men who fear their time of ruling the world may be in jeopardy.

[Jesse]

Some decent showers firing up the valley this afternoon. Could get some downpours later.

[Jesse]

Looks like PDX is good for their sixth 60+ day of the year today.

 

I wonder how they are tracking compared to how many they normally see at this point.

[Deweydog]

Looks like PDX is good for their sixth 60+ day of the year today.

 

I wonder how they are tracking compared to how many they normally see at this point.

Below normal.

[TT-SEA]

Some decent showers firing up the valley this afternoon. Could get some downpours later.

 

Looks prime for some heavy rain... models have been showing that for quite some time for this evening and then overnight up here as it rotates northward.

[TT-SEA]

Native cottonwoods say spring is here... they no longer look bare.

 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Large constituency of bitter white men who fear their time of ruling the world may be in jeopardy.

 

Such a stupid statement. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Why are Trump voters so mad about other people doing well? 

 

Not angry. We should use government money to help people in need, not line government workers pockets. And government employees should not be entitled to better retirement benefits than the private sector. It just needs to end. 

[Jesse]

Such a stupid statement.

The suggestion that federal employees should be stripped of all benefits was post of the day material, though.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

The suggestion that federal employees should be stripped of all benefits was post of the day material, though.

Absolutely.

 

Hard Reign

[GobBluth]

back to weather, 18z kills the ridge in the long term.

[Jesse]

back to weather, 18z kills the ridge in the long term.

Good mews.

[TT-SEA]

back to weather, 18z kills the ridge in the long term.

 

Whew!   Close call.   3 sunny days in a row would be tragic in late April.   Save that for our 4-week summer.  

[Phil]

Whew! Close call. 3 sunny days in a row would be tragic in late April. Save that for our 4-week summer.

You live in one of the dreariest climates in the country. What more do you expect?

 

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[TT-SEA]

Well timed break all afternoon here... felt really nice.     Trees are really leafing out now.     Must be the same down in Portland?

 

 

[TT-SEA]

You live in one of the dreariest climates in the country. What more do you expect?

 

 

 

To not be able to string 3 sunny days in a row with a short-lived ridge for almost 3 months now is extremely rare even in this climate.     

 

I don't even think we have managed 2 consecutive days.   

 

I am taking into account where I live and what is normal here.   This is unusual.   Possibly the gloomiest and wettest Feb-Apr ever here.

[DareDuck]

To not be able to string 3 sunny days in a row with a short-lived ridge for almost 3 months now is extremely rare even in this climate.

 

I don't even think we have managed 2 consecutive days.

 

I am taking into account where I live and what is normal here. This is unusual. Possibly the gloomiest and wettest Feb-Apr ever here.

Finally getting some decent rain the last couple days in central OR so finally getting something out of this. I know the same doesn't need to be said about up there.

 

That said. I'm at the point where I'm really craving a couple sunny warm days. Doesn't need to be 2 weeks of it, just a couple days.

[Phil]

To not be able to string 3 sunny days in a row with a short-lived ridge for almost 3 months now is extremely rare even in this climate.

 

I don't even think we have managed 2 consecutive days.

 

I am taking into account where I live and what is normal here. This is unusual. Possibly the gloomiest and wettest Feb-Apr ever here.

Payback for last April's ridiculousness? Mother nature tends to even this stuff out over time.

 

After the very warm stretch of summers from 2013-15, things were bound to flip around at some point.

[TT-SEA]

Finally getting some decent rain the last couple days in central OR so finally getting something out of this. I know the same doesn't need to be said about up there.

 

That said. I'm at the point where I'm really craving a couple sunny warm days. Doesn't need to be 2 weeks of it, just a couple days.

 

Exactly.

 

Phil is trolling again.   Even here its reasonable to expect a little ridgy by the middle of April when there has been none since January.

[TT-SEA]

Payback for last April's ridiculousness? Mother nature tends to even this stuff out over time.

 

After the very warm stretch of summers from 2013-15, things were bound to flip around at some point.

 

So be it... even in the wettest and coldest April ever there is still likely to be a couple nice days in a row.  

 

And this is not going to be the wettest and coldest April ever.  

[BLI snowman]

So be it... even in the wettest and coldest April ever there is still likely to be a couple nice days in a row.

 

And this is not going to be the wettest and coldest April ever.

Latter part of the month should be mostly nice. Wet May though.

[TT-SEA]

Latter part of the month should be mostly nice. Wet May though.

 

 

ECMWF says no change for the next 10 days and a huge trough moving in at the end of the run.

[Phil]

ECMWF says no change for the next 10 days and a huge trough moving in at the end of the run.

I'll be in the area from 7/22 to 8/1, so expect a historic heatwave around that time period. Death ridges cling to me like some sort of parasite.

[TT-SEA]

I am thankful that it looks really nice on Easter at least up here.  We will be outside all day if that works out.   

 

Timing is everything I guess.  

[BLI snowman]

ECMWF says no change for the next 10 days and a huge trough moving in at the end of the run.

Any energy stalls even a little off the coast and we're now talking 80 degree territory. With humidity.

[TT-SEA]

Any energy stalls even a little off the coast and we're now talking 80 degree territory. With humidity.

 

Could be a flash warm spell for one day if timing works out... but that does not make for a "nice" latter part of the month if its raining for days on either side.   

[BLI snowman]

Could be a flash warm spell for one day if timing works out... but that does not make for a "nice" latter part of the month if its raining for days on either side.

That's still more or less our climo for now. Heat ridges are still very transient for another month or so.

[TT-SEA]

That's still more or less our climo for now. Heat ridges are still very transient for another month or so.

 

Now you flipped it on me... I am not expecting a heat ridge.  

 

I would gladly take 3 consecutive dry and mostly sunny days deep inside a cool trough or with cool NW flow.  

 

Anything but the endless parade of rain in SW flow that has been unusually relentless.  

[dairyd]

To not be able to string 3 sunny days in a row with a short-lived ridge for almost 3 months now is extremely rare even in this climate.     

 

I don't even think we have managed 2 consecutive days.   

 

I am taking into account where I live and what is normal here.   This is unusual.   Possibly the gloomiest and wettest Feb-Apr ever here.

 

I'l agree March was mostly below normal but there has been a pattern break away from the atmospheric river into at least a  trough pattern with breaks that is more typical of our spring weather.  You can see how the ET's are closer to normal except when the NW flow takes over.  Hopefully the troughing leads to ridging and that looks promising the next few... 

 

[Deweydog]

Nice to see a little something to knock the dust down this evening.

[BLI snowman]

Now you flipped it on me... I am not expecting a heat ridge.

 

I would gladly take 3 consecutive dry and mostly sunny days deep inside a cool trough or with cool NW flow.

 

Anything but the endless parade of rain in SW flow that has been unusually relentless.

Well we just had 3 fairly decent ones in a row from Saturday to Monday. A little rain at times but a fair amount of sun. To ask for completely stagnant, sunny weather here at this point in the year generally still takes a full blown ridge.