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The GFS has been pretty inconsistent with this. I’m not going to get worried unless the Euro starts going in the same direction. I feel like we are more okay than usual since the Euro is the one that really picked up on this first and has been consistent on it.

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2024 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 2

Number of 85+ days - 2 (Warmest so far - 86)

Number of 90+ days - 0

Number of 95+ days - 0

Number of 60+ lows - 0

 

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Just now, Cold Snap said:

The GFS has been pretty inconsistent with this. I’m not going to get worried unless the Euro starts going in the same direction. I feel like we are more okay than usual since the Euro is the one that really picked up on this first and has been consistent on it.

Are you disappointed with the run?  20" of snow and bitter cold thru Christmas?

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it's starting to get mentioned by sea nws

 

.LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY/...Friday looks like another dry
day before a shortwave trough drops over the ridge and into the area
over the weekend. The 18z GFS and the 00z GFS this evening scoop out
a broad upper trough over western Canada on Saturday and then
through Sunday and Monday turn the flow westerly over the area while
emphasizing an upper low center up around Ketchikan. Even with the
flow turning more zonal through Monday 850mb temps in the GFS over
Seattle might still be cool enough for snow around -7c over the
weekend even if a modified arctic front doesn`t quite reach the
area. There isn`t a great deal of precip in the GFS solutions but
modified arctic fronts often squeeze out a couple inches of snow
around Puget Sound. The 12z ECMWF was more dramatic--developing a
516dam upper low right over Vancouver Island Saturday night and
naturally it has lower surface pressures and probably more moisture
convergence as the modified arctic front arrives. The forecast is a
blend of solutions that gives the area a chance of snow this
weekend.
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5 minutes ago, Dave said:

I'm not sure I can handle another warm nose this time. But seriously, this is the GFS. It never gets it right this far in advance. Not worried yet.

I would weep for days if this run verified. Probably move to Indiana with Tiger. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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4 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Portland does good on this run also! 10-20 inches north of Portland. South Oregon isn’t looking so hot….

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Starting to think God hates us. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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5 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

Portland does good on this run also! 10-20 inches north of Portland. South Oregon isn’t looking so hot….

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It doesn’t really though, much of the moisture is marginal or likely zr or sleet

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and our friends in the hnl nws with this tidbit on the long range for next week's developing kona low..

A stronger front may affect the area early next week as a deep
low sets up within 1500 miles north of Hawaii. Breezy to windy
southwest flow could develop as early as Sunday, and wet and
unsettled weather is becoming increasing likely.
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Shades of February 2021. We're very lucky to have the Gorge as a factor. Hopefully the lows trend south for those sorely in need of some winter weather S of Salem.

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Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

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21 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

Day 9'er

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I’ve never seen arctic air so perfectly line up with the Rockies like that before. Very weird pattern.

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Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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I'm betting on a GFS / ECMWF compromise from here.  That would be a winner for many of us.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Meanwhile....still waiting for these stupid clouds to clear out tonight.  It's taking forever.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

By Christmas Day... 

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I can tell the GEM must be very snowy also just from the 500mb and 850s.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, 12345WeatherNerd said:

Actually, doesn't stop snowing in Seattle, we may see highest snow map from GFS ever.gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_us_50.png

10 feet?

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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GEM is kinda bad-- but Portland would be the most wintry place in the western Oregon lowlands as cold entrenched air leaves us with snow transitioning into ZR.

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"Let's mosey!"

 

--Cloud Strife

 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

Top 5 Snow Events (post 2014):

 

(1. January 10th, 2017: 18.5 in.

(2. February 6th, 2014: 7.5 inches

(3. February 20th, 2018: 5.0 inches

(4. February 21st, 2018: 4.0 inches

(5. December 14th, 2016: 3.5 inches

 

Honourable Mentions: December 7th, 2018, February 9th, 2019.

 

Total since joining the Weather Forums: 3"

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