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2 hours ago, Phil said:

Judah is spoiled lol. He believes his area is in a prolonged snow drought even after that behemoth nor’easter last January (the one I rode out in Plymouth w/ 80mph gusts & windows shattering around me, lmao).

For reference this is the footage I took of the conditions there. I haven’t seen anything even remotely like that since Feb 2010, and even that apparently didn’t satisfy him. :lol: 

(captured one of the shattering windows at 33:22 in, fwiw). this was wild.

 

Sounds like an eastern MossMan. 😂😅

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3 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Those analogs are for 11 days out from now... so it assumes the models have everything right.   I wish they did analogs for the current pattern which has actually verified.

But if in 11 days the pattern is similar to mid February 1951 as that shows... then early March might very much be on the table.   That was an amazing early March.    And also a spectacular April and summer that followed. 

I would love a 1951 redux, but the people who don't like dry weather would not approve.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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55 minutes ago, MossMan said:

Be careful…removing snow from your windshield can be dangerous! 

 

Wow!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 hour ago, AlTahoe said:

Also the skiing has been fantastic. Usually the Gun Barrel face at heavenly ices up first since it is at the bottom of the mt. But this season it has been nice and chalky with very little ice. 

Not sure why its posting up side down but use your imagination. lol 

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Trippy! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Snow Snifters! 

I love that word.  Ray Ramsey!!!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Another decently chilly day.  42/29 here with a little bit of snow this morning.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 hours ago, WeatherGeek2022 said:

definitely more likely not to get anything the rest of winter if something doesn't dramatically change soon in these runs.

 

rapid acceleration of declining odds by mid feb in general.

Apparently you haven't been round in Feb in recent years.  Feb will most likely end up below normal.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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3 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

It will probably take longer than that as that looks like a MJO phase 5 or 6 pattern.   That is decent for CA but not so much up here.    The 850mb temps at the end of the EPS run show the focus of the colder air is in the desert SW.    That type of pattern usually ends up being pretty quiet up here.

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5 is a wild card here.  Some of our best blasts have been with MJO 5.  Region 7 is the absolute best bet though.  A good wave in 7 almost always delivers decent cold.  Three is also decent for cold here as this current cold snap shows.

If the NAO had been a little bit minus we would have gotten nailed with this current block.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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18z GEFS has a much stronger signal for cold in BC than previous runs.  Hmmmm.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Overcast and 34.0˚F here. Slowly melting.

Cold really hung on up there.  All in all this was a decent cold snap.  My bucket of water outside still has a good 2 inch thick slab of ice on it.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

5 is a wild card here.  Some of our best blasts have been with MJO 5.  Region 7 is the absolute best bet though.  A good wave in 7 almost always delivers decent cold.  Three is also decent for cold here as this current cold snap shows.

If the NAO had been a little bit minus we would have gotten nailed with this current block.

MJO 5 with a Nina in February?    Apparently every month is different in terms of MJO patterns.

MJO 5 in February with a Nina looks like what the EPS is showing:

 

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14 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Cold really hung on up there.  All in all this was a decent cold snap.  My bucket of water outside still has a good 2 inch thick slab of ice on it.

More snow would have been nice, but at least there was some, and there’s a decent chance of a bit more tonight. Plus I did really well last month, so no complaints about this winter from me.

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5 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Maps today for tonight look a lot like maps yesterday for yesterday night.

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Except last night the ECMWF showed some precip down here while tonight it shows nothing south of about Arlington. 

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22 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

41/29 here today. Month will finish +1.0F. 2 sub 40 highs and 2 trace snowfalls with the cold snap made it a bit better I guess. 

At least this month wasn't warm enough to ruin our chances for a decent Nov - Feb average.  The final third was actually pretty nippy.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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22 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

MJO 5 with a Nina in February?    Apparently every month is different in terms of MJO patterns.

MJO 5 in February with a Nina looks like what the EPS is showing:

 

mjo 6.jpg

I was just talking about 5 in general during the winter.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

At least this month wasn't warm enough to ruin our chances for a decent Nov - Feb average.  The final third was actually pretty nippy.

Yeah I was thinking about that earlier. If this month had finished +3 or so it would’ve been pretty hard to pull off a colder than normal Dec-Feb. December finished -1.7F and this month just +1F. So just a slightly colder than normal February would get us a colder than normal winter. 

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The numbers for Jan 20 to Jan 31 IMBY were actually decent.

Average Max = 42.7

Average Min = 31.0

Average = 36.8

That's almost frigid by recent late January standards.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Hopefully the positive changes on the 18z GEFS will be the beginning of something.  That stronger BC cold signal is a pretty big deal.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Calm. 

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Pretty much as dead as it gets.  Dead calm here as well.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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A good number of ensemble members in the sub -7 bracket on this run as well.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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43/23 at SLE today 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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