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5 minutes ago, Winterdog said:

As the models hinted, It’s looking like some of us here in the Lake Stevens / Granite Falls area may be shadowed from a full dose of snow.  My 1.3 inches promised earlier is looking less likely.  Currently 35 DP30.

It will fill in

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Everett, WA (elev. 180’)

2023-2024 Snowfall:

1/11: Tr.

1/18: Tr.

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Slight improvement for this general area on the ECMWF vs 12z and 18z.  Nice to see that.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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13 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

I'm wondering if the NWS is just kicking the can down the road about Tuesday morning until after we're done with the event tonight.  They still have time to wait on pulling the trigger on that one.

They have to wait on that one... the last ECMWF was quite marginal with temps and the new GEM just came out.   They will have to wait until Monday to figure that one out.   It could be huge but could also bust.    I personally think its going to be significant.  

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Been a very slow but steady drop here all evening.  36.5 now.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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4 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

3.3" and snowing moderately.

Killer winter for you overall.  Back to back great ones for you in fact.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Nice Monday evening shot for SW King County.  Looks pretty real.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Seems as good a time as any to mention the ensemble improvement and the fact the operational GFS was a huge outlier in the long range. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Looks downright fun Monday evening in fact.  Temps below freezing with snow.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Euro actually takes it further north once it gets to the coast. Probably going to be less snowy for the Seattle area.

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2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 51

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Seems as good a time as any to mention the ensemble improvement and the fact the operational GFS was a huge outlier in the long range. 

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Gorgeous!

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, Cold Snap said:

Euro actually takes it further north once it gets to the coast. Probably going to be less snowy for the Seattle area.

Monday evening is great though.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just now, snow_wizard said:

Nice Monday evening shot for SW King County.  Looks pretty real.

Monday is another confusing day... ECMWF is quite warm on Monday afternoon in King County (46 at SEA) but then it could be snowing by evening.   I guess that is how it works in the spring.   That might be convective on Monday evening?

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1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

Monday evening is great though.

You are right about that. And it actually looks a bit juicier Tuesday morning but the low is pretty far to our north so I don’t know how that would affect things.

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2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 51

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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Not sure how next week looks for PDX but I think Monday-Tuesday may be our best shot for some more snow... not that we really need any per se

 

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3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Seems as good a time as any to mention the ensemble improvement and the fact the operational GFS was a huge outlier in the long range. 

gfs-ens_z500a_namer_51.png

gfs-ens_T850a_namer_51.png

 

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Total snow for Monday night and Tuesday (through 4 p.m.)... a little less for Seattle than the 12Z run but better to the north.    This is the same general theme as the GEM.

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South wind getting breezy. Solid cloud cover now and the temp has gone from 28 to 32. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Total snow for Monday night and Tuesday (through 4 p.m.)... a little less for Seattle than the 12Z run but better to the north.    This is the same general theme as the GEM.

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-snow_24hr_kuchera-7628800 (2).png

Looks pretty widespread overall. Other than maybe the south sound. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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The Tuesday evening c-zone is farther north too... maybe a happy Randy?   

Also pointed SW to NW rather than W to E like previously shown.   That indicates the low moved off to the NE.

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Between what the Euro and GEM are showing tonight. I would go with 4-7” for MBY for Monday night into Tuesday.

2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats

Total Snowfall - 0.75”

Max Snow Depth - 0.5”

Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13)

Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13)

Number of Freezes - 51

Sub-40 highs - 12

Highs 32 or lower - 3

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

The Tuesday evening c-zone is farther north too... maybe a happy Randy?   

Also pointed SW to NW rather than W to E like previously shown.   That indicates the low moved off to the NE.

ecmwf-deterministic-washington-snow_6hr-7646800 (1).png

Let’s not trend any further north than this. Although it wouldn’t surprise me if it did. 

(Previous name: MillCreekMike)

Everett, WA (elev. 180’)

2023-2024 Snowfall:

1/11: Tr.

1/18: Tr.

Go M’s

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What did Sunday pm-Monday 4p snow look like? Didn't see a map posted for that period. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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The Tuesday snow just happens earlier on the ECMWF.  Looks nice!  Still showing a hard freeze Tuesday night as well.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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