jaster220 Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 APX's SN Stake looks more like 5-6" depth there at the office. No brown-grounder up there! 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 From what I am seeing, no real snow chances until maybe heading into January around the mid part of the month. We will see. Hopefully, it changes. I just pray that we don't waste the first part of Jan. 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 From what I am seeing, no real snow chances until maybe heading into January around the mid part of the month. We will see. Hopefully, it changes. I just pray that we don't waste the first part of Jan.There’s signs of a storm around the 2nd-3rd of January GFS/CMC/ECMWF all show this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 There’s signs of a storm around the 2nd-3rd of January GFS/CMC/ECMWF all show thisYep...I saw that, but unfortunately, it looks like I might be on the warm side of this system. Still plenty of time for this to change. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 For anyone dreaming of a white Christmas https://www.mtu.edu/webcams/ Even there the temperatures are will into the 30's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 Here at my house the temperature is now up to 52 with sunny skies. The last official reading at GRR was 49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1976 Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 Merry Christmas gang. I did the family thing yesterday. Today I'm gonna watch some basketball and grill up some chicken breasts. Already 55° 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SE Wisconsin Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 For anyone dreaming of a white Christmas https://www.mtu.edu/webcams/ Even there the temperatures are will into the 30'sLooks as though there is a nice base on the cross country ski trails. I might need to make a trip up there to get in some decent skiing this winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 With a official reading of 54° Grand Rapids now has a new 3rd warmest Christmas in recorded history. At this time here at my house I am up to 60 so will have to see what GRR has at the 3 PM reading. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 It's 58º here in Cedar Rapids and low 60s in southeast Iowa. Combined with the partly to mostly sunny sky and light wind, this is likely the nicest Christmas weather on record. I think we may come up a hair short of 60º in CR. 3 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlgamer Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 65F on my thermometer on a sunny spring like day. The Christmas eve blizzard here was ten years ago. What a contrast.... 2 Quote 23-24 seasonal snow total: 17.8" (as of 3/9/24) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 What a weird day temperature wise here as we’ve been right along the nearly stationary cold front. Temps fell to 34 just after midnight last night but then rose back to 45 by 2a and stayed steady until 430. Then they fell and stayed at 31 until 830. Temps rose to 40 but then were stuck there for almost an hour. We crossed back over to the warm side of the front and warmed all the way to 56.5 at 2:20. I was going to write this message saying how warm we are, but now the front has dropped back south of me again and in 25 minutes we’ve fallen 11 degrees back to 45 degrees! It’s 35 degrees about 20 miles north of here and in the low 60s in southeast Nebraska 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcwxguy Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 18z icon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 41.7 now and still falling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 35.8 now. 21 degree drop in 3 hours, unbelievable. It’s a different season out there now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 25, 2019 Report Share Posted December 25, 2019 @ Clinton, how does the EPS look through Day 10???Wild temp swings and several storms. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Would be nice to get this in the d5 range I hope so buddy, still a lot of uncertainty with temps for both of us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNebWeather Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 35.8 now. 21 degree drop in 3 hours, unbelievable. It’s a different season out there nowWow. We never rose above 32 all day here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianJK Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Wow. We never rose above 32 all day here.Haven’t been below 32 here in quite some time and don’t expect to be anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 With a official reading of 54° Grand Rapids now has a new 3rd warmest Christmas in recorded history. At this time here at my house I am up to 60 so will have to see what GRR has at the 3 PM reading.Looks like 55 was the official high temp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormhunter87 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 It was 70 here in St. Louis. Weird feeling but nice considering the coming pattern change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstorm83 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Also hit 70 down here in crusty ole Memphis. Lots of short sleeves and shorts out today for Christmas day activities. 2 Quote Snowfall in Lincoln, NE: 2017-18: 21.4" 2018-19: 55.5" 2019-20: 17.6" 2020-21: 49.4" 2021-22: 5.1" Average: 26" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westMJim Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Looks like 55 was the official high temp?yes, 55 looks to be the days official high at Grand Rapids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Very warm day today, I hit 68 but KC came up just short of a record. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmahaSnowFan Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 It was quite the gradient across the state today Wow. We never rose above 32 all day here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Looks like 55 was the official high temp? I was out of town, but I see Marshall hit 57F around 3 pm. Left my sister's place near Frankenmuth and it was only 32F, then suddenly not too far south my car thermo was reading 46F and I thought it was broken. Now I see my hunch was correct. That front is draped right thru that region. 1 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaster220 Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 You want a White Christmas? How 'bout the hills around LA?? From firestorms to whiteouts! Something you don't see every day in too many places in America: 3 Quote Winter 2023-24 Snow Total = 53.1" (90% Normal Season) Largest Storm: 12" (1/12-13) Oct: 0.1 Nov: 2.9 Dec: 7.5 Jan: 31.7 Feb: 6.0 Mar: 4.3 Apr: 0.1 Avg = 59.2" (Harrison): 2023-24 = 53.1" Avg = 45.0" (KDTW): 2022-23 = 33.5" 2021-22 = 35.6" Avg = 49.7" (KRMY): 2020-21 = 36.2" 2019-20 = 48.0" 2018-19 = 56.1" 2017-18 = 68.3" 2016-17 = 52" 2015-16 = 57.4" 2014-15 = 55.3" 2013-14 = 100.6" (coldest & snowiest in the modern record!) 2012-13 = 47.2" 2011-12 = 43.7" Legit Blizzards (high winds and dbl digit snows): Feb 2011, Dec 2009, Jan 2005, Dec 2000, Jan 1999, Mar 1998, Nov 1989, Jan 1982, Jan 1978, Jan 1977, Apr 1975, Mar 1973, Jan 1967, Feb 1965, Jan 1918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 It's almost midnight on Christmas and we're still in the low 50s. Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madtown Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 47 here...just nuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Euro continues to show a system a week out. 3 Quote season snowfall: 34.8" '22-23: 30.2" '21-22: 27.1" '20-21: 52.5" '19-20: 36.2" '18-19: 50.2" '17-18: 39.5" Average snowfall: ~30" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzcoat Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Just watched PP on AccuWX. He too is concerned about being too cold in early JAN due to the unfavorable phase(s) of the MJO along with the AO only being negative for a short time before going +. Doesn't have much faith in the GFS past 4.5 to 5 days. IMO- what is going to happen is a repeat of the active pattern we had in NOV and early DEC- storms come but not enough cold air to get snow S of MN and basically the 45 Latitude. I have sneaky suspicion at least one of the upcoming storms is even going to cut even more W than "normal?" being a Dakotoas special and rain for many. Just not getting things to line up they way many of us need them. Christmas is at least looking at little bit more interesting and I would even take a RASN mix at this juncture.590x334_12191048_screen-shot-2019-12-19-at-5.48.02-am.pngWritten a week ago. Need more sustained cold to have any chance S of LAT 43-- from a classic cutter 150 miles NW of the LOW for heaviest snowfall - minus wrap around BS. 3 Quote The two loudest sounds known to man: a gun that goes bang when it is supposed to go click and a gun that goes click when it is supposed to go bang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlp Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Euro continues to show a system a week out. Canadian does as well. Hopefully we can connect with colder air this go around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Already set a record at midnight when ORD hit 57F! Incredible warmth...ONLY dipped to 53F so far and looking to torch up past 60F today??? I actually had my window cracked open all night and it felt kinda nice to have some fresh air seeping into my room while sleeping. This is something I'll never forget. On a side note, I had a marvelous time with my entire family over last night for Christmas. The bonus of having a party at your place are the leftovers! Yummy! I hope you all enjoyed time with family and friends. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Setting records here in Chicago....unprecedented late December warmth... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Clinton, how does the EPS look in Week 2? Is it showing the cold coming around Jan 4th/5th?? I think the pattern post the early Jan storm is going to feature a dominant N stream with volatile periods of transitioning cold in between storm systems. This is the part of the LRC which produced a NW Flow regime for about a couple weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Clinton, how does the EPS look in Week 2? Is it showing the cold coming around Jan 4th/5th?? I think the pattern post the early Jan storm is going to feature a dominant N stream with volatile periods of transitioning cold in between storm systems. This is the part of the LRC which produced a NW Flow regime for about a couple weeks.I'm not sure didn't have a chance to look this morning, going to be on the road a lot today and I'll try to post later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stacsh Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Looks to me pretty up and down the first 2 weeks of January. After that who knows. Got a feeling we will not see prolonged arctic air this year as the PV seems quite strong and sturdy. Still a long 2 months until March so plenty of time to get some cold and snow down in the lower great lakes. But for now we look to the extended models and pray. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Attm, its 43F w mostly cloudy skies and heading up to the mid 50s, if not higher. Yesterday at the Christmas party, the host was grillin outside. I could not believe my eyes. Just amazing warmth for this time of the year. People were outside w their drinks chatting. I kept saying to myself, is this really Christmas in MI or are we down south. Numerous cities had this warmth as well (i.e., relatives on the EC as well) Crazy! 2 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 Looks to me pretty up and down the first 2 weeks of January. After that who knows. Got a feeling we will not see prolonged arctic air this year as the PV seems quite strong and sturdy. Still a long 2 months until March so plenty of time to get some cold and snow down in the lower great lakes. But for now we look to the extended models and pray. Yep...That Jan 2-3rd storm is looking like a rain event here. After that, it looks dry and seasonably cold, if not slightly above the norm. There goes half of January right there. 1 Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted December 26, 2019 Report Share Posted December 26, 2019 You want a White Christmas? How 'bout the hills around LA?? From firestorms to whiteouts! Something you don't see every day in too many places in America: 20191225 Los Angeles NWS graphic.GIFUsually, when we have very mild weather, places around the country have wacky weather as well. Quote Snowfall for Winter 2023 -24 for Metro Detroit Area Oct 2023: 0.2" AN Nov 2023: 2.2" AN Dec 2023: 0.5" BN Insane! Jan 2024: 17.0" AN Feb 2024: 1.9" BN Insane! Mar 2024: 4.9" BN April 2024: Trace Season So Far: 26.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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