Phil Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: That seems chilly even for them. You could say that. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterdog Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Pretty chilly day with a 35/22 spread. Hoping to hold onto a freezing temp until after midnight. Currently 32.4 and cloudy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 That is a very nice Scandinavia Ridge signal at the end of the 18z GEFS. Also hints of a Okhotsk Sea low. Too far out to get me excited, but would def keep an eye on it. 5 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: That seems chilly even for them. Keep in mind Andrew that those temps are in C. Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWx Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 39/30 today. First sub 40 high for the season and freeze #13. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said: Keep in mind Andrew that those temps are in C. That’s still approaching -15°F. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia_Wx Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Ended up with a 38/24 day here. Very solid chill for the end of November. Started out clear and frosty, but thick mid level clouds moved in by 9-10am. Ended up being a mostly cloudy and very chilly afternoon with light winds. The frost melted but there’s still ice on some puddles out there. Overcast with a light breeze and down to 36 now. Precip type could be an interesting thing to watch tomorrow morning in some spots. 2 1 1 Quote Summer grows while Winter goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Awesome list that list is a boatload of turds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: That seems chilly even for them. In Soviet Russia they don't have cold, cold has them! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Lol, that’s a high of -53°F. Not record breaking for Yakutsk, but definitely legit. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 My weather channel forecast looks pretty good after next week's torch. But yes, desperation is setting in to the point of checking 10-14 day TWC forecasts lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 11/27/2023 at 3:12 PM, Phil said: If dry NW wind fell as snow we’d average 5,000”/yr. My lips are already cracked and bleeding. Is most of the snow you receive there from offshore flow? Do you ever get snow with onshore flow? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercurial Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Yea that was the best part about living in Hokkaido. We got snow every time the wind blew in from the west. So basically it snowed constantly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doinko Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 38/26 today 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said: What if it was all snow? Then we would be the snowiest place in the USA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 55 minutes ago, Phil said: 12z ECMWF forecast for Moscow. Death spiral into the grips of the Siberian High. Putin gonna his a** off. He needs to share some of that vodka Arctic air. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said: Is most of the snow you receive there from offshore flow? Do you ever get snow with onshore flow? All big snows have an onshore flow/fetch, usually a NE wind at the surface. It’s the only way to get moisture in here. Offshore (W/NW) flow is the enemy. Downsloping off the Appalachians warms/dries the boundary layer and kills precipitation. Exceptions are Alberta clippers (less common these days) and snow squalls under deep 500mb troughs, but neither of those produce heavy accumulations. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 20 minutes ago, Phil said: Lol, that’s a high of -53°F. Not record breaking for Yakutsk, but definitely legit. Good luck cooking food outside in that weather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbolin Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 57 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: That seems chilly even for them. Hold please, I have Yakutsk on the other line 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Phishy Wx Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said: Good luck cooking food outside in that weather. they'll be ok, they also cook inside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Phil said: Hard to disagree with this. Definitely the favored outcome following the -WPO response. My god what an epic pattern for East Asia. The North American equivalent of EPO/NAO ridge merger with the entire TPV trapped in S/SW Canada. Jealous af. IF I'm reading that right, that looks like a lot of snow for our mountains. Strong jet, but not the warm pineapple express, so snow levels would be at normal levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, Phil said: All big snows have an onshore flow/fetch, usually a NE wind at the surface. It’s the only way to get moisture in here. Offshore (W/NW) flow is the enemy. Downsloping off the Appalachians warms/dries the boundary layer and kills precipitation. Exceptions are Alberta clippers (less common these days) and snow squalls under deep 500mb troughs, but neither of those produce heavy accumulations. Hmm interesting. So sort of opposite here. My biggest snows need an East wind. I need to experience an East coast snowstorm someday, preferably a Nor’easter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 37/28 on the day. Currently 32. 2 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phishy Wx Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 26/20 day. COLD currently 25 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Not sure what the ECMWF was smoking today, but it completely missed the cloud cover we had. Really strange for that model. Currently 34 in spite of the clouds. Really impressive. 1 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 It's going to be interesting to see how much of the snow that falls in the mountains over the next few days will survive the torch next week. Looks really ugly for a couple of days there. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Not sure what the ECMWF was smoking today, but it completely missed the cloud cover we had. Really strange for that model. Currently 34 in spite of the clouds. Really impressive. Worked out perfectly with the clouds rolling in about 2hrs after daybreak and then clearing out at sunset…Kept things nice and cold today! 2 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 48 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said: IF I'm reading that right, that looks like a lot of snow for our mountains. Strong jet, but not the warm pineapple express, so snow levels would be at normal levels. That looks more like a warm/SW flow pattern to me. Almost all of Canada would be torching. Though I suppose it’s more of a spectrum than an either-or. It’s definitely not a cold pattern, though. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umadbro Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 37/24 today. Seems like the models overdid temps by about 6-10 degrees throughout the valley. 32 currently. Hoping the GEM is right for once tomorrow. 2 Quote https://ambientweather.net/dashboard/efcb24c8a999dceddfaba7469ce5bd2f my personal weather station Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffMassYelledAtMe Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Frost has melted, but it looked like this yesterday afternoon driving through. Too bad I couldn't get my kid to take a picture this morning too. 2 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffMassYelledAtMe Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Not sure what the ECMWF was smoking today, but it completely missed the cloud cover we had. Really strange for that model. Currently 34 in spite of the clouds. Really impressive. Yeah, I felt sure it would warm up with those clouds rolling in from the south this morning, but it has stayed surprisingly cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poulsbo Snowman Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, CliffMassYelledAtMe said: Frost has melted, but it looked like this yesterday afternoon driving through. Too bad I couldn't get my kid to take a picture this morning too. Have Cliff yell at your son. By far, your name is my favorite on this site! 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Snap Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Had a high of just 36 today. 36/25 day for me. Down to 32 now. 1 Quote 2023 - 2024 Cold Season Stats Total Snowfall - 0.75” Max Snow Depth - 0.5” Coldest High Temp - 21 (Jan 13) Coldest Low Temp - 9 (Jan 13) Number of Freezes - 51 Sub-40 highs - 12 Highs 32 or lower - 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 58 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said: Hmm interesting. So sort of opposite here. My biggest snows need an East wind. I need to experience an East coast snowstorm someday, preferably a Nor’easter. Yeah pretty much. We don’t have a giant ocean sitting immediately upstream like you guys do in the PNW lowlands. All you need is cold, and snow is virtually guaranteed. Seems like a pretty simple equation. Meanwhile, we need a perfectly timed phasing of jets and proper 500mb vort track/latitude, and the in-situ airmass cannot be significantly warmer than average. If any of these variables are slightly out of sync, then it’s either ice/rain, or a complete miss. It’s a lot more finicky. Some of the coldest winters (like 76/77) can fail in the snowfall department, while very warm winters like 15/16 can produce blizzards when factors align perfectly. 3 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Deweydog Posted November 30, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 15 years ago RIGHT NOW the models were beginning to offer some hints. 12 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffMassYelledAtMe Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Poulsbo Snowman said: Have Cliff yell at your son. By far, your name is my favorite on this site! He was too busy playing Pokemon or something. (My son, that is. Probably not Cliff Mass.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 This is not too shabby at all on the 18z GFS. Nice cold shot with northerly surface gradients at this time. This dovetails with some of the hints we have seen from the EPS and EPS control. 9 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Deweydog said: 15 years ago RIGHT NOW the models were beginning to offer some hints. I remember that! It was Steve Pierce’s post on the forum talking about those hints that really started getting me pumped about the possibilities. Sure wish we still had those forum archives to look at and relive the glory days. 5 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 The analogs keep saying we are in a better place than we could be given the Nino. Still a lot of good year sin the mix, including good Nino winters. 5 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 50 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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