November 2023 Weather in the PNW

[MossMan]

4 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Yes, I was sick two weeks ago for 3 days, got better for a week and now I’m sick as a dog!

Hope you feel better soon!

Almost sounds like you are headed towards a redux of me from a year ago.
Started feeling off the night of the big windstorm on 11/4/22…Which ended up being the start of the RSV…Didn’t start feeling somewhat normal again until right before Thanksgiving. Then on Thanksgiving morning I was putting up Christmas Lights and felt off again and by the time I was finishing up I was struggling…Took a COVID test that night and sure enough! 
Then started feeling somewhat normal again around 12/8 or so…Then the flu hit around 12/10! Finally started feeling normal again right before Christmas.
That was an ugly ugly stretch that I really do not want to relive again…Ever…

Currently have blowing mist outside and 55 degrees. .41” so far on the day. Pretty good gusts happening. 

Edited November 2 by MossMan

[The Winter Warlock]

6 hours ago, Phil said:

Dang, what were you doing to aggravate it so bad?

Thank you very much for the links/info. Yes I had an MRI. That’s how the L4/5 herniation was discovered. Also have L5/S1 bulging/impinging on spinal cord but not herniated. It’s a mess.

Thankfully no weakness or referred pain (yet), and I’m going to do everything I can to make sure it doesn’t progress to that. But it might be out of my control at this point. Doc said I might have a better chance to heal because I’m only 31 and have good muscle tone, but that it’s not a guarantee, and if I don’t take it seriously then I’m likely to aggravate it would probably need surgery. I’m apparently at that threshold between a moderate herniation and a severe one that could compromise my body in multiple ways.

I had an L5-S1 microdisectomy done by Proliance in 2018 (I was 27 at the time) due to a herniated disk. Same symptoms / gritting teeth sciatic pain - and some numbness/tingling. No idea how I herniated it (had off/on sciatic pain for years, but had a flare up that never went away). I’m 6’ 4” for reference.
 

Best decision I ever made. Dr. Howe in Covington was my surgeon. Sciatic pain was gone right after the surgery and never came back. Suffered for over a year where I spent a lot of time on the couch, and the longer you wait, the worse it gets/the higher likelihood of permanent damage/stiffness.

 

Took only 45 minutes on the table, and the scar is only an inch long. I was up walking same day, just took ibuprofen, and rested for 2-4 weeks after. DM me if you’d like more info - best of luck.

[T-Town]

.82 event total so far here. 56.7 degrees this morning. 

[Deweydog]

I’m neither sick or injured at the moment.

But I did have cancer!

[ShawniganLake]

My foot hurts like hell every morning when I get out of bed but after walking on it for a few minutes it’s perfectly fine.  
 

November is off to a good start.  Better than 1.5” of rain overnight 

[Chewbacca Defense]

Quite WHET up here in the 'ham, up to .97" as  as of 7:15am.  it was at .65" when I woke up at 6am. 

Since we are talking ailments and being elusive about the sports we play, I'll be getting an MRI on Saturday to see if I need to have surgery to have my meniscus repaired.  It happened back in September when I was playing a "sport" back in September when things were still super dry and the "sport" field was very uneven and hard like concrete.  I was shutting down a shot from one side, and another striker snuck in behind me unmarked.  Tried to pivot back to get to the cross and stepped in a low spot while twisting/launching back the other direction.  I guess I should be thankful I didn't shred my MCL or ACL.  I really hope I don't have to hang up my "sport" gloves and cleats, but I sure as heck don't want to go through this again, and I'm not getting any younger.

 

Been hoping it would heal on its own (had that happen before) but I don't think I am going to be so lucky this time around.  The thing that really sucks is I was looking forward to taking the doggo up to Baker and going snowshoeing this winter.  I probably won't be able to have surgery before the end of the year, and then its a 6-8 week recovery. 

Also dealing with a sinus infection, but so far the back is holding up.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Is this still a weather forum or has it been taken over by residents the old folks’ home chatting about their surgeries?

48.7˚F and 0.75" so far.

[Anti Marine Layer]

8 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Is this still a weather forum or has it been taken over by residents the old folks’ home chatting about their surgeries?

48.7˚F and 0.75" so far.

Still a weather forum. Low pressure makes pain worse.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 minute ago, Anti Marine Layer said:

Still a weather forum. Low pressure makes pain worse.

Seriously, though, my sympathy to anyone going through health struggles. Nobody deserves agony. I am lucky to have avoided most such problems. So far. Nobody gets out of this place alive, after all.

[MossMan]

Up to .77” now on the day and currently dumping buckets! 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

3 hours ago, MossMan said:

Hope you feel better soon!

Almost sounds like you are headed towards a redux of me from a year ago.
Started feeling off the night of the big windstorm on 11/4/22…Which ended up being the start of the RSV…Didn’t start feeling somewhat normal again until right before Thanksgiving. Then on Thanksgiving morning I was putting up Christmas Lights and felt off again and by the time I was finishing up I was struggling…Took a COVID test that night and sure enough! 
Then started feeling somewhat normal again around 12/8 or so…Then the flu hit around 12/10! Finally started feeling normal again right before Christmas.
That was an ugly ugly stretch that I really do not want to relive again…Ever…

Currently have blowing mist outside and 55 degrees. .41” so far on the day. Pretty good gusts happening. 

I have horrible memories of

RSV from last November. My youngest daughter spent 3 days in the hospital with it. 

[MossMan]

43 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Is this still a weather forum or has it been taken over by residents the old folks’ home chatting about their surgeries?

48.7˚F and 0.75" so far.

Old folks were great luck for me! Worked at a senior community between 2006 and 2012…We had some epic winters during that stretch! Here is December 2008 at work! 

Edited November 2 by MossMan

[Kolk1604]

8 hours ago, Gradient Keeper said:

00z ECMWF 10 Day Rainfall, Snowfall totals

It gives, takes back, and then it gives again. 

[Omegaraptor]

62°F at 8:20 AM in Aurora… is this November or August?

[iFred]

1 hour ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Is this still a weather forum or has it been taken over by residents the old folks’ home chatting about their surgeries?

48.7˚F and 0.75" so far.

We cover the weather observations from the Mid Atlantic to the Mid Atlantic now as well.

[Phil]

13 minutes ago, iFred said:

We cover the weather observations from the Mid Atlantic to the Mid Atlantic now as well.

You certainly did a lot of that 2016-18.  

Also Colorado, SoCal/Tahoe, and Wisconsin. And even Japan, as of last weekend. Don’t see that on many weather forums.

[Phil]

2 hours ago, ShawniganLake said:

My foot hurts like hell every morning when I get out of bed but after walking on it for a few minutes it’s perfectly fine.  
 

November is off to a good start.  Better than 1.5” of rain overnight 

That’s plantar fasciitis. Do you have flat feet?

[SunAndSnow]

31 minutes ago, Omegaraptor said:

62°F at 8:20 AM in Aurora… is this November or August?

63° and the south wind is raging here.

[AlTahoe]

35 minutes ago, Phil said:

You certainly did a lot of that 2016-18.  

Also Colorado, SoCal/Tahoe, and Wisconsin. And even Japan, as of last weekend. Don’t see that on many weather forums.

For the record I am the red headed step child of the west. Weather here is more PNW than California, plus who doesn't like snow pics!. 

[Phil]

4 hours ago, MossMan said:

Hope you feel better soon!

Almost sounds like you are headed towards a redux of me from a year ago.
Started feeling off the night of the big windstorm on 11/4/22…Which ended up being the start of the RSV…Didn’t start feeling somewhat normal again until right before Thanksgiving. Then on Thanksgiving morning I was putting up Christmas Lights and felt off again and by the time I was finishing up I was struggling…Took a COVID test that night and sure enough! 
Then started feeling somewhat normal again around 12/8 or so…Then the flu hit around 12/10! Finally started feeling normal again right before Christmas.
That was an ugly ugly stretch that I really do not want to relive again…Ever…

Currently have blowing mist outside and 55 degrees. .41” so far on the day. Pretty good gusts happening. 

Bro you need some vitamin-D and Zinc.

[Phil]

5 minutes ago, AlTahoe said:

For the record I am the red headed step child of the west. Weather here is more PNW than California, plus who doesn't like snow pics!. 

Oh I agree! Wish you posted more. I’m just messing with Fred.

[Chewbacca Defense]

Rain is tapering off, up to 1.3" since midnight.  Got .21" last night up to midnight, so a not too shabby 1.51" out of this first wave.

[Winterdog]

1 hour ago, MossMan said:

Up to .77” now on the day and currently dumping buckets! 

My Davis weather station said I received 1.75" of rain in the past 24 hours and I found that hard to believe after seeing what others were saying they received so I checked my manual gauge and it showed 1.60".  Crazy amount of rain but that is what has fallen here.  

[Phil]

The insects have finally been silenced. First time since April I stepped outside and wasn’t immediately swarmed by skeeters.

Bye felicias. Rest in frozen pieces.

[iFred]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

You certainly did a lot of that 2016-18.  

Also Colorado, SoCal/Tahoe, and Wisconsin. And even Japan, as of last weekend. Don’t see that on many weather forums.

I pay the bills.

 

[Phil]

17 minutes ago, Winterdog said:

My Davis weather station said I received 1.75" of rain in the past 24 hours and I found that hard to believe after seeing what others were saying they received so I checked my manual gauge and it showed 1.60".  Crazy amount of rain but that is what has fallen here.  

Nice! Looks like a stormy month coming up for the PNW and eventually NorCal as the Pacific jet consolidates.

Probably ends up warmer than average just about everywhere, but there’ll be no shortage of storm systems/rainfall.

And I think there’s a better than average shot at a windstorm/very strong jet 3rd week of the month. Though I’m not an expert in regional synoptics so don’t put too much stock in that prediction.

[Phil]

The UK just got blasted by a sun-950mb low. Gusts at least 120mph recorded, possibly stronger.

Preview of what’s to come in PNW/BC 2-3 weeks from now?? It’s definitely possible. Jet extension, +NPO/+EPO transition upcoming (then eventually more +WPO in December).

Again, idk how it’ll translate in terms of individual storms/tracks, but I’m interested.

[Winterdog]

21 minutes ago, Phil said:

And I think there’s a better than average shot at a windstorm/very strong jet 3rd week of the month.

I hate windstorms.  I don't like having to deal with downed trees, no electricity and crushed cars.

[Kolk1604]

29 minutes ago, Phil said:

The insects have finally been silenced. First time since April I stepped outside and wasn’t immediately swarmed by skeeters.

Bye felicias. Rest in frozen pieces.

What about fleas? It's still an issue for my cats and it's November

[SilverFallsAndrew]

12z GFS really sucked. I can hear Phil cackling from here. 

[MossMan]

23 minutes ago, Winterdog said:

I hate windstorms.  I don't like having to deal with downed trees, no electricity and crushed cars.

1 year ago this coming Saturday was epic!! I cut the smaller tree up to get traffic moving at least one way on our main road. No power for 4 days.my property had minimal damage luckily. 

[RentonHill]

27 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

12z GFS really sucked. I can hear Phil cackling from here. 

The atmosphere is fully coupled with LITTLE BOY and its only a matter of time before FAT MAN gets us

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

The UK just got blasted by a sun-950mb low. Gusts at least 120mph recorded, possibly stronger.

Preview of what’s to come in PNW/BC 2-3 weeks from now?? It’s definitely possible. Jet extension, +NPO/+EPO transition upcoming (then eventually more +WPO in December).

Again, idk how it’ll translate in terms of individual storms/tracks, but I’m interested.

And they issued a tornado warning, which apparently means something different than it does here: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/storm-ciaran-live-weather-radar-uk-met-office-b2440188.html

[Phil]

36 minutes ago, Winterdog said:

I hate windstorms.  I don't like having to deal with downed trees, no electricity and crushed cars.

I have a love/hate relationship with them. If it’s a typical cold season windstorm (W/NW winds/mountain waves) the trees will do fine since they’re acclimated to that, even at 60+mph. So those events are easy to enjoy.

But convective/downburst winds from summer storms sometimes come in from the S/SW or due N, and those are often very destructive. The thunderstorm on 7/29 this year produced winds from the N/NE measured at 84mph, and the damage was extensive. The tree canopy is forever changed.

[the_convergence_zone]

1 hour ago, Winterdog said:

I hate windstorms.  I don't like having to deal with downed trees, no electricity and crushed cars.

It's kind of sad when all it takes is 40-50 mph gusts to cause havoc. That's like a normal Monday afternoon in Wyoming. When you start getting closer to hurricane force then I get more interested. 

[crf450ish]

3 hours ago, MossMan said:

Old folks were great luck for me! Worked at a senior community between 2006 and 2012…We had some epic winters during that stretch! Here is December 2008 at work! 

2008-2009 winter will forever live in my mind as one of the most epic winters in western Washington history (for me). My 88 year old grandfather still talks about winters back in the 50s, 60s, 70s & 80s being "real" winters around here. He used to drive his truck out onto Ohop Lake in Eatonville and drill into the ice and measure....he forgot the exact year but he said it was nearly 6" thick. My dad has pictures of his childhood house front yard downtown Puyallup...snow knee deep in January in the 70s. Similar stories from all of my Gen X family. 

[crf450ish]

4 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

It's kind of sad when all it takes is 40-50 mph gusts to cause havoc. That's like a normal Monday afternoon in Wyoming. When you start getting closer to hurricane force then I get more interested. 

Why do you think there's so few trees in Wyoming?  I've spent considerable time in Wheatland and Gillette, the wind never stops. 

[crf450ish]

10 minutes ago, Phil said:

I have a love/hate relationship with them. If it’s a typical cold season windstorm (W/NW winds/mountain waves) the trees will do fine since they’re acclimated to that, even at 60+mph. So those events are easy to enjoy.

But convective/downburst winds from summer storms sometimes come in from the S/SW or due N, and those are often very destructive. The thunderstorm on 7/29 this year produced winds from the N/NE measured at 84mph, and the damage was extensive. The tree canopy is forever changed.

This looks like the aftermath of the Hanukkah eve windstorm of 2006 here in the PNW. It was devastating, to say the least. I believe we're overdue for a major windstorm here. I'm not looking forward to it, but I'm prepared. Chainsaw, plenty of bar oil, spare chains, fuel already mixed ready to go. Generator and power cords ready. Firewood ready. I had a tree service come this summer and perform what is known as "wind sailing" the trees in proximity to our house. 

[Front Ranger]

1 minute ago, crf450ish said:

Why do you think there's so few trees in Wyoming?  I've spent considerable time in Wheatland and Gillette, the wind never stops. 

Had dinner in Wheatland last week. It was breezy.

[RentonHill]

Euro/GEM wetter than SloBro

[Phil]

https://x.com/worldclimatesvc/status/1720086989465342046?s=46&t=656Z973wLtGKaIyhhq_7QQ

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

12z GFS really sucked. I can hear Phil cackling from here. 

Euro looks a bit more interesting.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Front Ranger said:

Euro looks a bit more interesting.

GFS wants to start split flow hell early. I'd rather have a PHAT rEX block sitting over us than warm drizzle and systems sliding south. 

[Phil]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

12z GFS really sucked. I can hear Phil cackling from here. 

I think you’re projecting, friend.  

I’m being honest when I say that, no matter how much you enjoy my suffering a warm/snowless winter, I always want you see you guys score. I’ll never root against someone hoping to enjoy one of their life’s passions.

Of course there’s an element of jealousy/misery-loves-company, but that is trumped by love of winter weather and the dynamic patterns associated with it. I’d much rather track an amplified pattern that torches my backyard but delivers awesomeness elsewhere than a flat/zonal pattern that roasts everyone.

[Phil]

11 minutes ago, crf450ish said:

This looks like the aftermath of the Hanukkah eve windstorm of 2006 here in the PNW. It was devastating, to say the least. 

Yeah it’s depressing, right? I’m still getting used to the changed light patterns under the open parts of the tree canopy.

Thankfully none our trees were a total loss. Some lost big limbs and others looked to be warped/leaning, but it wasn’t from the roots, and they’ve re-straightened somewhat (though not entirely).

[SnowHawks]

I was reading KOMO news brief description for our upcoming EL NINO winter and looked back to see if there were any significant snows during an EL NINO in the PNW. 1968-69 stands out as one and I was wondering other than the EL NINO state at that time, what would have been the other factors that would have enabled such a rare occurrence?

[Phil]

23 minutes ago, crf450ish said:

This looks like the aftermath of the Hanukkah eve windstorm of 2006 here in the PNW. It was devastating, to say the least. I believe we're overdue for a major windstorm here. I'm not looking forward to it, but I'm prepared. Chainsaw, plenty of bar oil, spare chains, fuel already mixed ready to go. Generator and power cords ready. Firewood ready. I had a tree service come this summer and perform what is known as "wind sailing" the trees in proximity to our house. 

And yeah a few weeks ago I posted about all the unhealthy tall/skinny trees in my family’s Everett neighborhood. They were developing a large, low-frequency sway with just a 10mph breeze.

I guarantee the next big-league windstorm will topple an insane number of trees there. Those things will drop like toothpicks.

[RentonHill]

47 minutes ago, Phil said:

https://x.com/worldclimatesvc/status/1720086989465342046?s=46&t=656Z973wLtGKaIyhhq_7QQ

last week of runs for this

 

[RentonHill]

including todays one. backed off on it a bit but some extreme members

[TigerWoodsLibido]

Hopefully we see that early SSW. Good things will be happening, I have a feeling.