RentonHill Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 30.8 and raining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said: If it isn't freezing on contact, is it freezing rain? Freezing after precip stops does not count. Yes, if it freezes it is freezing rain. Sometimes happens faster than others, also depends on surfaces. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smerfylicious Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 It's lightly snowing in Skykomish and Index...the snow line is about at Zeke's Drive In...as per usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, NorthBend RainEnthusiast said: It’s kind of beautiful. However, ice is on my bad side right now because I slipped and landed right on my kneecap yesterday and I have a bad feeling I may have to visit a doctor soon.. Bummer. This stuff can be dangerous. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Every model has shifted south this evening. I think this is because the low is even weaker than originally projected. 5 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 28 now at SLE. I hope they can stay below freezing through midnight, but we'll see. Either way this was a great stretch. 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 15 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Seen it many times. Very very shallow warm layer. ZR is super cooled water that freezes on contact. It's below freezing, but hasn't become solid yet because it is falling through such a shallow layer. In Chris's situation it's 31 at the surface, but that drop hitting the ground is above freezing. You don’t need supercooled drops for ZR. In fact you technically don’t even need subfreezing air temperatures temps if the ground is cold enough. We had a deep freeze in Jan 2018 and after an overnight low of 3°F it warmed into the mid-30s and started raining. Coated everything in ice because most surfaces were far below freezing. 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slushy Inch Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 26 minutes ago, RentonHill said: ME ME ME ME ME. what a chode What did Cliff call him previously? An amateur? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Front Ranger said: Yes, if it freezes it is freezing rain. Sometimes happens faster than others, also depends on surfaces. It's not freezing on any surface, and if it freezes after the precip is done it's not freezing rain, it's just ice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, MossMan said: Even though Cliff and Tim do not think this will be an event at all…I still staged my plow! One of these has you in the blue, and the other has you in the pepto, right? 1 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawksfan2008 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, Phil said: You don’t need supercooled drops for ZR. In fact you technically don’t even need subfreezing air temperatures temps if the ground is cold enough. We had a deep freeze in Jan 2018 and after an overnight low of 3°F it warmed into the mid-30s and started raining. Coated everything in ice because most surfaces were far below freezing. Okay well than the opposite can be true. I'm just saying I've seen it rain many times at 31-32 and there is no ice forming. 2 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: Every model has shifted south this evening. I think this is because the low is even weaker than originally projected. We are on the bubble here. 1 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frontal Snowsquall Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 43 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said: My brother and sister in-law got an early start today and left Vancouver, WA at 8am or so which is amazing for them since they have two young children and are extreme night owls. They left to beat the ice storm warning. Can't imagine them driving in that now. Got here about 3 hours ago with generally good conditions. Glad they got there safely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, Front Ranger said: Yes, if it freezes it is freezing rain. Sometimes happens faster than others, also depends on surfaces. I've seen a LOT of frozen puddles so apparently I've had freezing rain a lot more often than I thought! 3 1 3 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoNeedsAC Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Looks like the main rain band is already through, just showers on the radar now. No power out for days icing so far, thank goodness. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Okay well than the opposite can be true. I'm just saying I've seen it rain many times at 31-32 and there is no ice forming. With saturated air that can happen. 31 usually makes ice no matter what though. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingstonWX Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Every model has shifted south this evening. I think this is because the low is even weaker than originally projected. You insisted this was not going to happen. We willed it into reality. Please give credit where due. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHweatherChris Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, bainbridgekid said: I've seen a LOT of frozen puddles so apparently I've had freezing rain a lot more often than I thought! I have 3 of those currently lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.SNOWMIZER Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Every model has shifted south this evening. I think this is because the low is even weaker than originally projected. JAYA Said the southern low looked stronger and more spun up than modeled. 7 Quote We come from the land of the ice and snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 If we had 4-8 inches of snow on the ground, this would have been a nice snowstorm rn 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TT-SEA Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, KingstonWX said: You insisted this was not going to happen. We willed it into reality. Please give credit where due. I didn't insist anything. I think it was Randy's reverse psychology that did the trick! 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffMassYelledAtMe Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, MR.SNOWMIZER said: JAYA Said the southern low looked stronger and more spun up than modeled. It's tighter and thus less likely to go north. Like the low for OR this weekend, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterdog Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just appeared on my phone. Not gonna happen 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawksfan2008 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 27.9 degrees. We’re really gonna do this two years in a row out here. Insane NWS Seattle fails to address micro climates. We had the same advisory as Seattle 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Precip is much lighter here than the radar would suggest. East wind is still pretty strong so assume that is the reason. 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awright-31 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Sounds like the roads in Thurston Co are starting to become an ice rink. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubus Leucodermis Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Quote It's called clown range for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said: If it isn't freezing on contact, is it freezing rain? Freezing after precip stops does not count. It might not freeze instantly, but standing water will always freeze in a subfreezing environment. If it’s not freezing *at all* (esp on metallic surfaces such as railings, etc) then it’s not below freezing to begin with, and your thermometer is likely running cold. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffMassYelledAtMe Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, luvssnow_spokane said: GREAT READ: With Puget Sound Energy’s (PSE) recent debacle, Cliff Mass, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the University of Washington, takes climate zealots to task in a blog post titled: The Cold Truth About Renewable Energy in the Pacific Northwest. https://x.com/wagop/status/1747383497302622434?s=46&t=dIP_tfaU13ExwPgv5KMjSw This looks politics adjacent considering the source of the Tweet. I don't care that Mass is a weather expert when he is getting political. Perhaps a different thread? Thanks. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBend RainEnthusiast Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Precip is much lighter here than the radar would suggest. East wind is still pretty strong so assume that is the reason. Sleet happening now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacomaWx Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 32 here now. 31 at Tacoma narrows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawksfan2008 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: Precip is much lighter here than the radar would suggest. East wind is still pretty strong so assume that is the reason. Amazing how different you and I can be. Coming down good here. Already a solid coating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, NorthBend RainEnthusiast said: Sleet happening now? Hearing pings on the window now... must be. That would be very good. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingstonWX Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: I didn't insist anything. I think it was Randy's reverse psychology that did the trick! Darn you kids and your semantics! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said: I've seen a LOT of frozen puddles so apparently I've had freezing rain a lot more often than I thought! 1.5 hours. That's the official amount of time it has to freeze to qualify. Look it up. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 11 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Okay well than the opposite can be true. I'm just saying I've seen it rain many times at 31-32 and there is no ice forming. If surfaces and air temps are both marginally below freezing, then yes it will take longer given latent heat release during the freezing process. But it will still freeze. You’ll see a lot of dripping from the trees/etc in such conditions but if it’s below freezing there will be some glazing under the liquid water. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Just now, Hawksfan2008 said: Amazing how different you and I can be. Coming down good here. Already a solid coating. I have seen that before when its raining harder as I go down the hill. Usually when we are right on the cusp of snow and its falling lightly and then drive down the hill and its pouring rain. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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