July 2017 PNW Discussion Thread

[TT-SEA]

I'd still recommend a guide. They know where the fish are.

 

The fish are in the water silly... everyone know that.  

[WeatherArchive]

You picked up on the 'firehose' event in June... it did happen as you predicted but it certainly did not define the month as being wet and cool.  

Well put.  That *Firehose* only netted us about a quarter inch and the next day only ten hundredths.  It was barely anything except miserable clouds. Sadly that was our last shot of precip.  So much for that *wave train* that Phil predicted.  I think it got derailed.

[wx_statman]

The colder/higher equatorial tropopause and reduced static stability aggregate alters the low frequency rossby train and waveguide such that it reduces the chances of big anticyclonic breakers/-EPO in the long run across DJF, however, a stronger BDC, weaker PV, and cooler globe in -QBO winters can possibly make up for the more hostile NPAC.

 

The biggest challenge in -QBO/-ENSO is getting the vodka cold onto our side of the globe, for the most part.

 

2005-06 comes to mind. 

 

-QBO/-ENSO with record cold in Eastern Europe in January...most of us know how January 2006 went down in the PNW. 

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF shows 103-105 around Portland one week from today and close to 100 up here.

 

Not good.   

 

Good news is that it might turn brutally hot just when Phil leaves... he is always so lucky that way.   

[Front Ranger]

Latest Euro is pretty toasty the first week of August.

 

[seattleweatherguy]

Latest Euro is pretty toasty the first week of August.

 

ecmwf_T850a_us_9.png

Ouch that's hot

[Kayla]

Latest Euro is pretty toasty the first week of August.

 

ecmwf_T850a_us_9.png

 

Nice to finally see that ridge shoved a little further west!! I wouldn't complain if the ridge axis went another couple hundred miles west either. 

[Jesse]

Hopefully this 7-day heatwave on the Euro falls apart like all the others this summer (sans late June).

[Front Ranger]

Hopefully this 7-day heatwave on the Euro falls apart like all the others this summer (sans late June).

 

It's been a month. Due for one to pan out.

[Jesse]

18Z gets really nice in the long range.

[TT-SEA]

85 here with a dewpoint of 55 right now... nice day.   

 

Looks like it will be early afternoon before the sun makes an appearance tomorrow.   Good morning to water.   

[Timmy Supercell]

Surprised I didn't post here on Monday.. I had a huge storm. I was just a couple miles north of where probably hail/wind was occurring, but still very frequent and nasty lightning event. Sections of downtown may have had its best storm in 5 years. Seemed like Lake Ewauna got slammed.

 

Some pictures of a forming shelf cloud approaching.. I did take a TON of video (10GB, 1:30 hours) but I have only gotten through a portion of that. Below the pictures I'll lay links of two youtube videos I know you'll all like. About 7:15pm or so NWS Medford issued a Severe Thunderstorm Warning actually including Klamath Falls. From what I recall, last one to be issued for this town was back in September 2011. 

Over the years many of the warnings were in the vicinity of this area. No official large hail reports or wind reports but if I were to give an opinion, this was either very close to being severe or was barely one briefly.

 

http://i.imgur.com/57VsHj5.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/G0BBRFw.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/XHqnzGo.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/ZDVZzga.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/HHMLNvN.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/DGT7JP1.jpg

 

Here is the first video uploaded. Extremely close lightning several times.. You probably can't tell but there were at least 4 different sections of the sky producing lightning flashes/CG's all at once. This was the most intense lightning I experienced so far in my life. There was often 1-2 second differences between each flash/CG, sometimes less than 1 second. During the daytime my camera cannot show 100% of everything going on. 

 

1080p is available on both videos.

 

 

Here is a zoomed in radar shot while the lightning was being filmed. You can see here what kind of situation I was in. I simply wasn't sure where to have camera aimed. And there was a risk of either getting the camera wet or struck by lightning.

 

http://i.imgur.com/5uyHYvG.png

 

Sunset after 8pm. Vivid deep colors. It looked better in person. Lightning still continued though less in frequency compared to earlier.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/XwVJCYk.jpg

 

I think this covers everything!

Yesterday I did have a brief storm but we're talking less than typical east side type convection. Though there was mammatus on a few occasions. Maybe I'll share a few of those photos later this evening.

[High Desert Mat!]

Surprised I didn't post here on Monday.. I had a huge storm. I was just a couple miles north of where probably hail/wind was occurring, but still very frequent and nasty lightning event. Sections of downtown may have had its best storm in 5 years. Seemed like Lake Ewauna got slammed.

 

Some pictures of a forming shelf cloud approaching.. I did take a TON of video (10GB, 1:30 hours) but I have only gotten through a portion of that. Below the pictures I'll lay links of two youtube videos I know you'll all like. About 7:15pm or so NWS Medford issued a Severe Thunderstorm Warning actually including Klamath Falls. From what I recall, last one to be issued for this town was back in September 2011.

Over the years many of the warnings were in the vicinity of this area. No official large hail reports or wind reports but if I were to give an opinion, this was either very close to being severe or was barely one briefly.

 

http://i.imgur.com/57VsHj5.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/G0BBRFw.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/XHqnzGo.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/ZDVZzga.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/HHMLNvN.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/DGT7JP1.jpg

 

Here is the first video uploaded. Extremely close lightning several times.. You probably can't tell but there were at least 4 different sections of the sky producing lightning flashes/CG's all at once. This was the most intense lightning I experienced so far in my life. There was often 1-2 second differences between each flash/CG, sometimes less than 1 second. During the daytime my camera cannot show 100% of everything going on.

 

1080p is available on both videos.

 

 

Here is a zoomed in radar shot while the lightning was being filmed. You can see here what kind of situation I was in. I simply wasn't sure where to have camera aimed. And there was a risk of either getting the camera wet or struck by lightning.

 

http://i.imgur.com/5uyHYvG.png

 

Sunset after 8pm. Vivid deep colors. It looked better in person. Lightning still continued though less in frequency compared to earlier.

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/XwVJCYk.jpg

 

I think this covers everything!

Yesterday I did have a brief storm but we're talking less than typical east side type convection. Though there was mammatus on a few occasions. Maybe I'll share a few of those photos later this evening.

Well done. Fantastic video. I hope we have more of those storms this summer, there is currently a storm just north of me in Terrebonne now.

[stuffradio]

Vancouver is the best place in the world nature wise, that's why it's so freakin' expensive. The west coast/PNW is also generally the best scenery wise

[Deweydog]

A thunderstorm or two might be nice...

[Jesse]

Vancouver is the best place in the world nature wise, that's why it's so freakin' expensive. The west coast/PNW is also generally the best scenery wise

 

In the world? That is quite the statement.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

In the world? That is quite the statement.

 

He clearly hasn't been to Victoria.

[Timmy Supercell]

He clearly hasn't been to Victoria.

 

Or Klamath Falls. :v

[Jesse]

He clearly hasn't been to Victoria.

Or Yellowstone, or Alaska, or Costa Rica, or....

[stuffradio]

He clearly hasn't been to Victoria.

I have, I have family on the island. It's nice on the Island too.

[stuffradio]

Or Yellowstone, or Alaska, or Costa Rica, or....

I have been to Europe, not Alaska though or Costa Rica. The rest of the world is nice for visiting, but I would die if I lived in Europe. There is so much alcohol there and water is so expensive. It was 3-4 euros just to drink water. I've been to Paris, Germany, London, and the Balkans.

[wx_statman]

Or Klamath Falls. :v

 

We got a winner!

 

On a side note, I once stayed in the #24 ranked motel (out of 24) on Yelp in K-Falls. 

[wx_statman]

Or Yellowstone, or Alaska, or Costa Rica, or....

 

Tasiilaq

[Jesse]

Tasiilaq

Greenland has a lot of nature. It's no Vancouver BC, but it's alright.

[BLI snowman]

Rain looks increasingly likely by the 10th. Possibly clouds, too.

[TT-SEA]

Rain looks increasingly likely by the 10th. Possibly clouds, too.

 

Almost inevitable.  

[Jesse]

Almost inevitable.

As is your anxiety about it.

[TT-SEA]

As is your anxiety about it.

 

I would pay to see a soaking rain right now.   But I assume you are looking down the road farther.  I suspect this coming fall and winter will score pretty high on the TIM index.   I have very low expectations after October.   

[Chewbacca Defense]

Yeah both cities have a lot to offer depending on what your interests are. Missoula definitely has more of a "College Town" feel to it with UM more integrated into the city. Whereas in Bozeman, MSU isn't quite as much as the focal point. Graduates at MSU tend to put down roots after graduation versus UM they seem to move on.

 

Bozeman does have thousands of miles of trails as well with amazing hikes very close to downtown and MSU while also having a free bus service (Streamline) and you can float down the Madison here! Something for him to keep in mind, summer fun doesn't last all that long here in either city. If your son enjoys snow sports, I think Bozeman wins out hands down. One ski resort (Bridger) within 20 minutes with free bus service everyday (Streamline) and another (Big Sky, largest ski resort in the states) just 45 minutes away.

 

I've attached a few pics from just a couple of hikes that we've done over the last few weeks; all within a 20 minute drive from MSU.

 

Great to hear that he enjoyed the campus! It really is a great looking campus and is only growing. Whatever he decides I don't think he can go wrong but... Go Cats!! 

 

This is awesome, thanks for all of the info and the pictures, I'll definitely be sure to share this info and the pictures with him.  He's used to summer not lasting that long having grown up in Bellingham, and while he's never skied he did say its something he wants to do.  I think I said this before, I don't envy him and his decision, they both look like great options for him.

 

I have to admit I am partial to MSU.

[TT-SEA]

Widespread drizzle around the Seattle area this morning.  

 

Even SEA is reporting drizzle... dry streak is hanging by a thread.  

[Jesse]

Widespread drizzle around the Seattle area this morning.  

 

Even SEA is reporting drizzle... dry streak is hanging by a thread.  

 

Just a trace reported so far. The streak lives on for now.

[TT-SEA]

Just a trace reported so far. The streak lives on for now.

 

 

The 'T' definitely taints it.   Water did fall from the sky.  

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Widespread drizzle around the Seattle area this morning.  

 

Even SEA is reporting drizzle... dry streak is hanging by a thread.  

 

Not a cloud in the sky up here.

[TT-SEA]

Looks pretty wet in Bellevue and Issaquah...

 

 

[Geos]

The 'T' definitely taints it.   Water did fall from the sky.  

 

True, true.

 

A nice surprise this morning. Little bit foggy where I'm at.

[Geos]

Some faint echoes in central and northern King County, and top of the Kitsap.

 

[ShawniganLake]

Not a cloud in the sky up here.

Clear blue here as well. We had our rain last week.

[VancouverIslandSouth]

Looks pretty wet in Bellevue and Issaquah...

 

 

 

Must be a localized thing, I can't even see cloudiness looking south over the Juan de Fuca. Nothing looking north from the harbor cam either:

 

http://i.imgur.com/Nwlzumf.jpg

[jcmcgaffey]

The 'T' definitely taints it. Water did fall from the sky.

That means the first ever completely dry July is off the table. Dry streak still in tact though. I think it was still the longest run of no rain including trace amounts.

[ShawniganLake]

The 'T' definitely taints it. Water did fall from the sky.

Victoria YYJ has had 4 "T's" but I guess their streak is technically still alive. Dry since June 19th.