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All the bellyaching about 4 straight cold rainy weekends deserves a hearty "Good Lord."

 

The operational, control, and ensemble average members of the latest GFS run for Seattle all show warmer than normal temperatures for almost the entire run, and there's only the slightest chance of any measurable precipitation for next weekend.

 

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Hawkstwelve is the only person who complained.    And the GFS does show rain and cool conditions both weekend days up here... that is what I reported because that is what it shows.    It is what it is.    

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I've been good bro, 

I've got to be honest though, 2020 can **** right off at this juncture. 

Although N-3.4 is looking like Wall St in 1929, crash baby, CRASH!

You?

I’m doing well. Surviving.

 

Hope that your health prognosis is looking up.

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Nah, 7-8 years in a 80 year time frame is not going to "heavily skew" it. It's a lot better than just comparing to 30 years averages, you'd have to admit.

 

Most of those were legitimately cooler than normal Augusts in non-UHI spots. There are maps that show this.

 

That many added examples of what was previously upper tier warmth will definitely skew the long term averages. The running August average is notably higher now than it was a decade ago.

 

It's probably fine to just admit that we haven't seen a chilly August in about 20 years and not grasp at straws to counter it.

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All the bellyaching about 4 straight cold rainy weekends deserves a hearty "Good Lord."

 

The operational, control, and ensemble average members of the latest GFS run for Seattle all show warmer than normal temperatures for almost the entire run, and there's only the slightest chance of any measurable precipitation for next weekend.

 

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You should know the one who coined that term here would never say that with regard to his preference kin. ;)

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You should know the one who coined that term here would never say that with regard to his preference kin. ;)

 

Good Lord... you are the preference police king.    A title you will never let go!    And make sure you continue to obsess over Matt's opinion.   I am sure that will change his mind about you.   :rolleyes:

 

I have not said anything about anyone preferring rainy/cool weather.     I understand some people feel that way and that does not impact me in any way.  

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The 12Z ECMWF keeps the Seattle area dry on Saturday with the rain band stationary to the north... then it slides through Saturday night and Sunday morning and its fairly dry again by afternoon.  

 

At face value... not a washout weekend for the Seattle area.    

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I like the 12z Euro. Ridge never really amplifies and keeps any real heat down where it belongs, in the Southwest.

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Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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I like the 12z Euro. Ridge never really amplifies and keeps any real heat down where it belongs, in the Southwest.

Yeah... pretty clear that the models have been overestimating amplification. It does not really make sense to have an extended hot spell in June with a developing Nina.

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The 12Z ECMWF keeps the Seattle area dry on Saturday with the rain band stationary to the north... then it slides through Saturday night and Sunday morning and its fairly dry again by afternoon.  

 

At face value... not a washout weekend for the Seattle area.

 

Looks wetter than last nights run but atleast it shows the afternoons of Saturday and Sunday being dry. Win win. The next couple days look pretty nice too.

Tacoma WA elevation 300’

Monthly rainfall-3.56”

Warm season rainfall-11.14”

Max temp-88

+80 highs-2

+85 highs-2

+90 highs-0

 

 

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Up to 4.79" of rain on the month. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

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Up to 4.79" of rain on the month. 

 

Impressive!

Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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Last night the convo in here was refreshingly nice. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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I never claimed to be stoic. ;)

 

Does stoic mean never even looking at the weather models? It must.

 

Apparently I am not even allowed to talk about what the models show without your goofy comments. :rolleyes:

 

I expect nothing less though.

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Impressive!

 

Monthly average is 3.31" so no matter what happens this month, like May will end up solidly above average. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Tim in rare form...must...not...go...full...Bryant.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Tim in rare form...must...not...go...full...Bryant.

Really? I reported what the GFS showed for the weekend. That is all.

 

You ignore the peanut gallery crap from a particular member though. I expect nothing less.

 

Its all about the endless preference war that someone wants to keep going. Find one post from me mocking someone for their preferences. Good luck!

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55F with some rain. Glad to have every drop since we are still below normal for the water year.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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Last rainy day in a while.

 

This is not terrible. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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That many added examples of what was previously upper tier warmth will definitely skew the long term averages. The running August average is notably higher now than it was a decade ago.

 

It's probably fine to just admit that we haven't seen a chilly August in about 20 years and not grasp at straws to counter it.

The 1941-2020 average also includes a 30 year cold phase from the 1950s-1970s. The 1981-2010 baseline is actually a warmer baseline globally than 1941-2020.

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A lot more troughy members on the latest EPS weekly for the month of July.

 

At least a 50-50 split now. But once again, the ridgy members skew insanely warm, so the mean also skews warm.

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Is it confirmation bias on my part that it feels like the models in general have had bigtime differences more than usual since October or so last year?

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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That many added examples of what was previously upper tier warmth will definitely skew the long term averages. The running August average is notably higher now than it was a decade ago.

 

It's probably fine to just admit that we haven't seen a chilly August in about 20 years and not grasp at straws to counter it.

 

"Chilly" is another subjective word. But these are based on 30 year averages, and were still chillier than normal for much of the region.

 

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