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January Weather In The PNW 2024 (Part III) - The Warming Shot


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2 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Haha wow. I tell you. Whining works! ;)

Been working great for me since the November 2006 miracle…Been using the technique ever since 😂

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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6 minutes ago, crf450ish said:

Have you ventured into town during this cold snap? If so, have you seen any trucks left running in parking lots? Just curious if that's still a thing. 

Oh yes. Most cars are kept running in the grocery parking lots during these cold snaps.

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Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

Personal Weather Station on Wunderground: 

https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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12Z GEM still going the freezing rain route with snow to the north... but did shift a little south from its 00Z run.  

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Stat of the day. 3 consecutive days with sub-20 lows at SLE for the first time since December 2013. If they get another one tomorrow morning it will be their longest streak of sub-20 minima since December 2009. Even more shocking... This is the first time since 1980 they have had more than 2 consecutive sub 20 lows in January... 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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Is this actually going to happen? I'm becoming more optimistic, but I not going to believe it until I see the pepto of the Euro's eyes.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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1 minute ago, Skagit Weather said:

Is this actually going to happen? I'm becoming more optimistic, but I not going to believe it until I see the pepto of the Euro's eyes.

The nervous 2hr wait begins! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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Just now, FroYoBro said:

What does the GFS show for freezing rain down here?

Everyone eventually gets crushed by freezing rain per GFS... even the northern areas that are buried in snow on Wednesday and Thursday get it on Friday.

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Hear me out here, I don't think we're in for a big warm up YET. that low is going to track further east and south, which will give us more cold air from BC and Alberta. The willamette valley will have freezing rain for a bit but then it will convert to snow, and the cold north winds will continue. December 2008 everyone was almost 100% sure it was going to warm up, and it didn't. It could happen again...

 

I'm probably going to be extremely wrong but one can dream.

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Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th

Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107"

Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none

23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84"

 

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1 minute ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Nearly regionwide! I miss on the icy fun. ☹️

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Can we blame @icyasf?

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Garfield County/Pomeroy, WA:

2023-2024 Snowfall totals: 14.3 inches

HIghest snow total (per event): 5.8 inches total 1/11/24 - 1/12/24.

Most recent accumulation (non trace): 0.20 inches on 2/26/24

Days with  trace or more snowfall: 12/01/23 (0.60), 1/8/24 (1.0), 1/10/24 (3.5), 1/11/23 (3.5 inches with Thundersnow; separate event from prior day), 1/12/24 (2.30). 1/14/24 (T), 1/17/24 (1.20 inches), 1/18/24 (1.5 inches), 1/19/24 (0.20), 2/09/24 (0.30), 2/26/24 (0.20-mainly graupel), 4/5/24 (T)

First Freeze: 10/27/2023

Last Sub freezing Day: 1/20/24 (12th) (8 days in a row from 1/12/24-1/20/24)

Coldest low: -12F (!!!!!!!!) (1/12/24)

Last White Christmas: 2022 at my location (on ground)

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Low of 0 degrees and it's currently up to 2, with no wind. Snow depth of 29".

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Coldest temp this winter: -7 Jan 13th

Snow depth at Mount Bachelor (last updated March 27th) 107"

Snow depth at my home (updated March 27th): none

23-24 seasonal snowfall at home (updated March 27th): 84"

 

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Just now, TT-SEA said:

12Z GFS and 12Z GEM both just bury SW BC.   

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They do. Alas they are not backed up by the Euro or the NAM 3km on that.

I am wondering what HRDPS will have to say when it finishes. If both it and NAM 3km fail to back up the snowier long-term models, I will write the latter off as out to lunch again.

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Nearly 4 straight days below freezing in Seattle should come to an end this afternoon.

That ice event doesn’t look like a big deal for Seattle fortunately although I’ll avoid the roads on Tuesday evening. Getting up close to 40 on Tuesday afternoon will help. Seems to be one where it could be trouble in the favored areas but the I-5 corridor south of Mt Vernon should be all rain by Wednesday morning and once it switches over it isn’t switching back. 

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8 minutes ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

They do. Alas they are not backed up by the Euro or the NAM 3km on that.

I am wondering what HRDPS will have to say when it finishes. If both it and NAM 3km fail to back up the snowier long-term models, I will write the latter off as out to lunch again.

And then you have the 06Z EPS mean which actually shifted slightly north from the 00Z run.    But still gives SW BC snow.  

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2 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

Nearly 4 straight days below freezing in Seattle should come to an end this afternoon.

That ice event doesn’t look like a big deal for Seattle fortunately although I’ll avoid the roads on Tuesday evening. Getting up close to 40 on Tuesday afternoon will help. Seems to be one where it could be trouble in the favored areas but the I-5 corridor south of Mt Vernon should be all rain by Wednesday morning and once it switches over it isn’t switching back. 

I was remembering the 2012 ice event... it started raining here when it was 18 degrees.    That is a recipe for disaster.   

I can't remember a 40-degree day (which it should be tomorrow) turning into a major ice event later the same day.   But maybe there is a first for everything!  

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Currently 17* and that is my low for the day.  
Southend will bubble up quickly unless that low sinks south. We lack the necessary means to keep the cold air here….Sad Panda.  
In the same I never trust nature as she’s surprised me to many times before….even this locations that gives up the ghost easily. 


 

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4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

And then you have the 06Z EPS mean which actually shifted slightly north from the 00Z run.    But still gives SW BC snow.  

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You got an EPS Kuchera?  Probably more accurate for us on the east side with snow coming with temps in the teens/lower 20s

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2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

You got an EPS Kuchera?  Probably more accurate for us on the east side with snow coming with temps in the teens/lower 20s

They don't have a Kuchera map for the EPS. 

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Looks like The Dalles has officially hit a 0-burger. 

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Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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12z 4km GFS-WRF had about a 10-15 mile shift south from the 00z, but still shows snow basically only Whatcom County north despite the more favorable GFS.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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Just now, Skagit Weather said:

12z 4km GFS-WRF had about a 10-15 mile shift south from the 00z, but still shows snow basically only Whatcom County north despite the more favorable GFS.

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Basically all of the small tweaks since last evening have been favorable tweaks and we are so incredibly close to being in business…Let’s keep this momentum going over the next day! 
And one thing is for sure…The ground will definitely NOT be too warm, even if we get into the upper 30’s for a day or two, if we do get snow it should be immediate stickage! 

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Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! 

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40 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Everyone eventually gets crushed by freezing rain per GFS... even the northern areas that are buried in snow on Wednesday and Thursday get it on Friday.

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The 12z GFS trended way colder for down here. Ice arrives just before sunset tomorrow and continues through the morning. The 06z GFS had PDX at 41 Wed 10am, now the 12z shows 27 with ice still. The models always are too aggressive with scouring out the cold air down here and it looks like they are getting a better handle of the low level cold air. If there is an east wind, PDX will not thaw out.

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3 minutes ago, Frontal Snowsquall said:

The 12z GFS trended way colder for down here. Ice arrives just before sunset tomorrow and continues through the morning. The 06z GFS had PDX at 41 Wed 10am, now the 12z shows 27 with ice still. The models always are too aggressive with scouring out the cold air down here and it looks like they are getting a better handle of the low level cold air. If there is an east wind, PDX will not thaw out.

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If we're using 2004 as an event analog then the gfs persistent cold pool idea fits.

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