March 2024 Weather in the PNW

[Phil]

56 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I got crucified in here for saying Colorado was overrated. 

Rightfully so.

[Phil]

52 minutes ago, bainbridgekid said:

4 AM sunrises in Summer would suck and I'd much rather that extra hour of daylight when people are awake. 4:30 PM sunsets in the Winter suck, but 9 AM sunrises in the Winter would suck even more. Can't have kids arriving at school in the dark.

Yes you can. I did for years. Arizona is on permanent DST and somehow society hasn’t devolved into chaos despite sunrises after 8AM.

And 9AM sunrises are fine by me if there’s more light in the evening.

[Cascadia_Wx]

3 minutes ago, Phil said:

Yes you can. I did for years. Arizona is on permanent DST and somehow society hasn’t devolved into chaos despite sunrises after 8AM.

And 9AM sunrises are fine by me if there’s more light in the evening.

You lived in Arizona?  

[Phil]

Might hit 80°F again today.  

[Phil]

Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

You lived in Arizona?  

Hell no. But when I was in grade school the day started at 7AM and ended at 2PM. Was pitch black walking to the bus stop during the winter. Life went on.

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

12 minutes ago, Phil said:

Yes you can. I did for years. Arizona is on permanent DST and somehow society hasn’t devolved into chaos despite sunrises after 8AM.

And 9AM sunrises are fine by me if there’s more light in the evening.

?!?!?!??!?

 

They're on permanent standard time, not DST.

[Timmy Supercell]

9 minutes ago, Phil said:

Might hit 80°F again today.  

I'll be flirting with my first 80 of the year, forecast to be 79 though. Sometimes I'm 1-2 warmer than they say. 

[Timmy Supercell]

18 minutes ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

?!?!?!??!?

 

They're on permanent standard time, not DST.

I think there's a part of AZ that still observes DST, but you could say the most populated areas don't.

We took I-40 East from Flagstaff a few years ago and remember there being a clock change a couple times in one day. Confusing.. and I really don't think this should be a state to state decision. Just make it national.

[TT-SEA]

Hope we all came to a clear consensus now on good places to live and how clocks should managed.   Finally settling those debates once and for all.   

[TigerWoodsLibido]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I got crucified in here for saying Colorado was overrated. 

I feel like they are. The Buffaloes resume is mediocre and I feel like New Mexico would beat them on a neutral court. Plus the Mountain West is better than the Pac12.

[TT-SEA]

Troughy!  

[BLI snowman]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

@MossMan

Looks pretty dirty, gross, and honestly like a major headache.

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

30 degrees and BEAUTIFUL currently, low of 14, only 1½" of patchy snow remains. Hiking/Skiing the next few days is going to be AMAZING, despite the fact that the snow conditions will be sh1tty by the weekend

Went for a hike up tumalo mountain this morning, an amazing but chilly bluebird day.

[Eugene-5SW]

27 minutes ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

?!?!?!??!?

 

They're on permanent standard time, not DST.

Like Phil said. Most of Arizona is on permanent standard time, and yet life goes on.

The exception is the Navajo Nation, which observes the typical DST schedule.

[BLI snowman]

47 minutes ago, Phil said:

Rightfully so.

Denver itself is pretty flat, sprawled, and overpriced. I don't see the appeal aside from its proximity to much nicer areas.

Unfortunately that's true of a lot of the Front Range Colorado population centers IMO, though I like the area from Colorado Springs up to Castle Rock a lot and was looking at relocating there briefly.

That said, the state itself has tons of truly stunning areas outside of that and is well worth visting.

[Phil]

17 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Troughy!  

Motherf**ker.

[ShawniganLake]

48 minutes ago, Phil said:

Hell no. But when I was in grade school the day started at 7AM and ended at 2PM. Was pitch black walking to the bus stop during the winter. Life went on.

My 6 year old leaves to catch the bus at 730. It’s pretty much dark when she leaves on most winter mornings.  I would prefer no time change.  Don’t really care if it was DST or standard they both have their goods and bads. 

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

I think the solution to DST is, if you want it to be 9:26 right now, set your clock to 9:26. If you're a weirdo who wants it to be 10:26 right now, leave it as is. 

 

Everyone wins! 

[Phil]

15 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Denver itself is pretty flat, sprawled, and overpriced. I don't see the appeal aside from its proximity to much nicer areas.

Unfortunately that's true of a lot of the Front Range Colorado population centers IMO, though I like the area from Colorado Springs up to Castle Rock a lot and was looking at relocating there briefly.

That said, the state itself has tons of truly stunning areas outside of that and is well worth visting.

I visited Colorado Springs last May and loved every second of it. Snowcapped mountains on the western horizon, beautiful convective cloud structures, large diurnal temperature variability, no muggy, swampy feeling when stepping outside. It’s underrated if anything IMO.

Even the warmer days didn’t feel warm because the air up there is quite thin (and dry). 

[Phil]

6 hours ago, Sunriver Snow Zone said:

I think the solution to DST is, if you want it to be 10:26 right now, set your clock to 10:26. If you're a weirdo who wants it to be 9:26 right now, leave it as is. 

 

Everyone wins! 

Fixed.

[Cascadia_Wx]

I like that the 12z GEFS is a little quicker and more robust with the cool down than the operational. Nice to have some more fun weather to look forward to after the pretty weather this weekend. Also possible this spring’s background state is starting to show its hand. Time will tell.

[OysterPrintout]

29 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Hope we all came to a clear consensus now on good places to live and how clocks should managed.   Finally settling those debates once and for all.   

Next up: Do people in colder states get tired of the snow and winter? Does it matter what you think about the weather or does mother nature not care? And finally, sun in later spring - fun outdoor times or death fire harbinger of doom? All this and Andy Rooney tonight on 60 Minutes!

[Phil]

27 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Troughy!  

FYI that pattern will literally kill people in their sleep.  

Just saying.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Phil said:

FYI that pattern will literally kill people in their sleep.  

Just saying.

OK... I will change it then.   

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

16 minutes ago, Phil said:

FYI that pattern will literally kill people in their sleep.  

Just saying.

I'd rather go out when I was asleep than when I'm awake. 

[TT-SEA]

12Z ECMWF looks similar to its previous runs but more tame and less aggressive with the cold.   Some showers on Thursday into Friday but sunny again by Friday afternoon into next weekend.  

Day 10 map... and total snow and precip anomalies.

 

 

[snow_wizard]

Average low IMBY this month is 33.1 so far and it looks like we have a lot more cold mins coming up.  I'm really liking the looks of week two right now.  The chill gets pretty continental.

[snow_wizard]

19 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

OK... I will change it then.   

If you can do that why not dial up a nice snowstorm for us?

[Front Ranger]

1 hour ago, Phil said:

Rightfully so.

Haters gonna hate.

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, snow_wizard said:

If you can do that why not dial up a nice snowstorm for us?

If I could do that I would dial up a massive snowstorm for Covington while its 55 and sunny here.  

[the_convergence_zone]

I think most people like DST the way it is but hate the abrupt change. I never hear any complaints in June or December. Therefore, my suggestion is that the clocks move forward by 1 minute per day in March/April and back by 1 minute per day in October/November. Nobody will even notice that there was a change unless they have clocks that aren't connected to WiFi, which is becoming increasingly rare. Even my microwave updates itself. 

[Front Ranger]

43 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Denver itself is pretty flat, sprawled, and overpriced. I don't see the appeal aside from its proximity to much nicer areas.

Unfortunately that's true of a lot of the Front Range Colorado population centers IMO, though I like the area from Colorado Springs up to Castle Rock a lot and was looking at relocating there briefly.

That said, the state itself has tons of truly stunning areas outside of that and is well worth visting.

That area or the hills west of Fort Collins are where I currently plan to retire.

With a place on a beach somewhere too, of course.

[Doinko]

1 hour ago, Front Ranger said:

Lull in the storm currently, but it's supposed to pick up again this afternoon and evening. 7.5" so far. Lots of places in the south and west metro have 12-16"+ already.

Looks like my relatives in Highlands Ranch probably have 16-18" of snow already. And then the airport barely has anything!

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Front Ranger said:

That area or the hills west of Fort Collins are where I currently plan to retire.

With a place on a beach somewhere too, of course.

Perfect!  

[Phil]

5 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

If I could do that I would dial up a massive snowstorm for Covington while its 155°F and sunny here.  

Fixed.

[ShawniganLake]

29 minutes ago, Phil said:

FYI that pattern will literally kill people in their sleep.  

Just saying.

I feel like I’d probably wake up if a tornado hit my house. 

[TT-SEA]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

Fixed.

Doesn't the same stupid joke get boring to you?  

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

7 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

I think most people like DST the way it is but hate the abrupt change. I never hear any complaints in June or December. Therefore, my suggestion is that the clocks move forward by 1 minute per day in March/April and back by 1 minute per day in October/November. Nobody will even notice that there was a change unless they have clocks that aren't connected to WiFi, which is becoming increasingly rare. Even my microwave updates itself. 

Yeah I'm personally fine with the change, but I know most people are not which is why we should either do permanent DST or permanent Standard time, and I think Standard time is the better option.

 

What if we did 30 minutes in March, 30 minutes in April, 30 minutes in October, 30 minutes in November? 

[Phil]

4 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

I think most people like DST the way it is but hate the abrupt change. I never hear any complaints in June or December. Therefore, my suggestion is that the clocks move forward by 1 minute per day in March/April and back by 1 minute per day in October/November. Nobody will even notice that there was a change unless they have clocks that aren't connected to WiFi, which is becoming increasingly rare. Even my microwave updates itself. 

I think that would be even more confusing.

I don’t like the lost hour of sleep after springing forward either, but it only takes a few days to adjust. Later sunsets are worth it for me.

[Timmy Supercell]

1 minute ago, ShawniganLake said:

I feel like I’d probably wake up if a tornado hit my house. 

Most likely I would get startled awake from booms of thunder before a tornado strikes. But not everyone is a light sleeper like I am.