SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Deweydog said: 2006? YIKES. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: Any thoughts on the 00z? I thought it was a major step in the right direction. I for one liked it Andrew. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: YIKES. Unlikely given that the pattern change should arrive a little quicker this time around. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Throw out the run. It doesn’t shows 80 degree sunshine 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Frosty out! 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, dolt said: Looks ideal for feet of Cascade snow. I want feet of 550’ snow! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Temp stuck at 30. 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 41 here... east wind blowing. Snow does not budge though with dry air. 1 1 1 1 1 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Temp spike to 31.6! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, TT-SEA said: 41 here... east wind blowing. Snow does not budge though with dry air. 30F here....no wind blowing. Bare ground does not budge though with moist air. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, luminen said: 30F here....no wind blowing. Bare ground does not budge though with moist air. I remember days on end of 45-degree temps and east wind in March 2019 that did almost nothing to our snow pack. It took temps in the 70s to finally get rid of most of it... and even then it was slower than I expected. Nothing like a roaring south wind and rain to eat snow. 1 Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbbyJr Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 hours ago, snow_wizard said: It certainly could be sooner. The -NAO all of the models are showing in early Jan is insane. Coupled with a -PNA that rapidly forces a deep trough over the NW. The famous December 1968 arctic blast featured a -PNA/-NAO combo. With a tanked NAO and an incoming major SSW in a -ENSO/+QBO state, its hard to understand why winter cancel is being mentioned on this forum. Not to mention, its not even January yet. Way to soon and honestly just silliness to cancel winter at this point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, TT-SEA said: I remember days on end of 45-degree temps and east wind in March 2019 that did almost nothing to our snow pack. It took temps in the 70s to finally get rid of most of it... and even then it was slower than I expected. Nothing like a roaring south wind and rain to eat snow. March 2019 held onto the snow really well here as well, even into the last week of the month after the warm switch was flipped. The beginning of that month was essentially a full-on winter month by our standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 31 and very frosty. Looks like snow, the kind of snow that wouldn't melt even if temps were in the low 80s. 2 1 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 I wouldn’t mind having a little snow to melt. 2 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Question... Have we as a forum actually ever managed to cancel a winter? 1 1 1 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 17 minutes ago, luminen said: March 2019 held onto the snow really well here as well, even into the last week of the month after the warm switch was flipped. The beginning of that month was essentially a full-on winter month by our standards. Looked back at my pics of March 2019...Almost forgot just how great the start of the month was, then 77 degrees by later March but I still had the driveway snow pile! 4 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said: 31 and very frosty. Looks like snow, the kind of snow that wouldn't melt even if temps were in the low 80s. Jared can tell you all about the snow-preserving power of dry air! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, MossMan said: Looked back at my pics of March 2019...Almost forgot just how great the start of the month was, then 77 degrees by later March but I still had the driveway snow pile! She’s ruining it!!! I hope you set her straight... 1 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, AbbyJr said: The famous December 1968 arctic blast featured a -PNA/-NAO combo. With a tanked NAO and an incoming major SSW in a -ENSO/+QBO state, its hard to understand why winter cancel is being mentioned on this forum. Not to mention, its not even January yet. Way to soon and honestly just silliness to cancel winter at this point. Wow forget 1950, 1968/1969 had the record amount of snowfall for Seattle I believe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthHillFrosty Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Deweydog said: Question... Have we as a forum actually ever managed to cancel a winter? We should have a weekly zoom meeting with the nws to discuss cancelling winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Putin’s heating bill about to soar. 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_in_Leavenworth Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Phil said: Putin’s heating bill about to soar. Does this have any implications for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 That’s a massive, gargantuan SSW on the 00z Euro. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brian_in_Leavenworth said: Does this have any implications for us? Yes. Siberian High descent —> +EAMT —> jet extension. Interesting combo with SSW/-NAO trying to suppress the storm track to the south. Jet retracts mid-Jan which is when Aleutian/GOA ridge returns..gets interesting in a hurry, with PV likely destroyed and favorable tropical forcing thru IPWP. 3 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 hours ago, TheNewCulverJosh said: December 23rd, 2020 and we are talking about 1928-29. This is beyond bad. We always talk about this kind of stuff in the winter. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Phil said: Yes. Siberian High descent —> +EAMT —> jet extension. Interesting combo with SSW/-NAO trying to suppress the storm track to the south. Jet retracts mid-Jan which is when Aleutian/GOA ridge returns..gets interesting in a hurry, with PV likely destroyed and favorable tropical forcing thru IPWP. In other words, Toronto will get an extreme Arctic blast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, luminen said: In other words, Toronto will get an extreme Arctic blast. YYZ!!! Hard to believe it’s almost been a year since we lost Neil Peart. 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Phil said: That’s a massive, gargantuan SSW on the 00z Euro. Holy crap! You ain't kidding. it displaces almost all of the negative 10mb temp anomalies into the mid latitudes. That should cause something to change. 2 Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, luminen said: In other words, Toronto will get an extreme Arctic blast. Why do you say that? Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luminen Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, snow_wizard said: Why do you say that? Well we probably will too (not saying we won't). The east will definitely get in on the action no matter what since it is so easy to get cold air that way. It's just how it is on this continent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, snow_wizard said: Holy crap! You ain't kidding. it displaces almost all of the negative 10mb temp anomalies into the mid latitudes. That should cause something to change. If that verifies, then yeah it’s gonna get cold next month. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, Deweydog said: She’s ruining it!!! I hope you set her straight... Hell yeah...I made her wash the winter of 2018/19 off of my truck! 2 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, iFred said: Phil will share snow pictures and assure us that it is both worse than we realize and that better days days are ahead with the next ice age just around the corner. Thankfully we'll finally get the ridge in the right position for some fun graupel showers in April. Pssh, most of y’all have already had more snow than me, judging by the pics posted here a few days ago. 1 1 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted December 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Nothing to see here, just your typical -15.5mb PDX-EUG... 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, iFred said: On the surface, a negative North Atlantic Oscillation means that both the UK and New England are enjoying snow while Greenland and the West Coast are enjoying positive anomalies. Yeah yeah, I get it, there are cases we get snow like that one time a couple decades ago, but unless there is a -PNA or a SE ridge, on the surface a SSW just means we get a chance to reset things up north. -NAO is not a warm west pattern at all. It actually leans cool/stormy out there on balance w/ a quasi-suppressed storm track..all else being equal. Maybe not Arctic by itself, but it often serves as a loading pattern for -PNA, subsequently. On the other hand, 2014/15 was the most +NAO winter in recorded history. How did that one turn out? 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 It hasn’t been mentioned on here but there is a second eruption of Mt. Etna in Italy. Do we think there are any implications to our weather going forward into Jan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 Down to 32 here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Jesse said: Down to 32 here. I’m jumping all over from 30 to 34 back to 30 to currently 33. 1 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted December 24, 2020 Report Share Posted December 24, 2020 We’ve lost The Fred. 1 1 1 1 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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