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PNW December 2022 - Part II


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1 minute ago, TacomaWx said:

Sea tac down to 32…42 in Milton but the wind shift is here. Gonna crash like a rock soon. 

I didn't realize you lived in Milton.  My sister in law lives there.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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7 minutes ago, OysterPrintout said:

Euro going back and forth between 0" and 1" in PDX what a nailbiter. Good run this morning! DARE I SAY we should trend it to 1.5"

I think y'all are gonna get a fun event up there. It's going to overperform.

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Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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PDX NWS snow forecast seems reasonable now.

Remaining very cold and windy Thursday into Friday. Forecast high
temperatures are only in the 20s across the lowlands on Thursday,
except low to mid 30s in the Eugene area and along the south WA/north
OR coast and upper 30s to lower 40s for the central OR coast. In
addition, this is also when a Pacific frontal system will bring a mix
of wintry precipitation to the area. Still expecting precipitation to
begin as mainly snow Thursday afternoon before transitioning to sleet
and/or freezing rain late in the day, which GFS/EURO soundings have
been quite consistent with as a warm layer aloft moves into the area.
The current forecast for snow and ice accumulations generally
reflects the NBM 50th percentile. Only expecting a dusting to one
inch of snow and/or sleet for most locations, except higher amounts
in/near the Gorge and over the Cascades. While higher snow amounts
cannot be completely ruled out, it appears the warm layer aloft will
move into the area fast enough to result in a fairly quick transition
from snow to sleet and/or freezing rain, which will limit total snow
amounts.
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ECMWF is also underestimating how cold the Fraser outflow would be.  Running about 10 lower than what it shows.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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6 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The U District has dropped to 29 now.  Awesome CAA!

This situation in Seattle this morning has been really fun to watch.    Sort of reminds me of weaker version of November 2006 arctic blast.   I remember getting pounded with a SW wind in the middle of that event and then dumped on with snow after the low passed.

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5 minutes ago, Deweydog said:

It’s gonna be such a close call… It’d be nice to have at least have a white table cloth set out before cArmageddon sets in Thursday evening.

Downslope gonna be hungry.

I'm leaning towards just flurries/virga with that first band, and all sleet with the 2nd band once the airmass actually saturates a bit. 

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SEA at 32 now.  Nightmare commute coming for people who went to work today.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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9 minutes ago, Seattle said:

We want a 12/26/21

What obs would one look at to track that? BLI-SEA gradient?

There is no BLI-SEA… best to look at OLM-BLI if you want that reference. Or even HQM-SEA. 
 

fwiw, most are interested in the BLI-YWL… which is ripping right now at about -20. This sets up for an Arctic plunge mid-week with the Fraser outflow. 

link for your reference
 

https://www.wrh.noaa.gov/sew/dients.php

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

This situation in Seattle this morning has been really fun to watch.    Sort of reminds me of weaker version of November 2006 arctic blast.   I remember getting pounded with a SW wind in the middle of that event and then dumped on with snow after the low passed.

I was thinking the same thing. Really similar feel including the huge snowstorm up in Whatcom County and the San Juans.

Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation)

Snow since February 2019: 91"

2023-24: 6"

2022-23: 17.5"

2021-22: 17.75"

2020-21: 14.5”

2019-20: 10.5"

2018-19: 24.75"

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Why are people talking like this is over?  Really bizarre.

I just had higher expectations based on the potential but still think we'll get something interesting in the Tacoma area before this is over.  It's hard to see all the snow up north and not be disappointed in what could have been.

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Temp drop has commenced here now.  Sitting at 37 currently.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

It shows nothing lol

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I can live with that amount of ice.  We might dodge a bullet.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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Just measured 1.5” at my place over the course of about 1.5 hours. Think that’s it for now as it’s back down to flurries and nothing too impressive impending on radar. Temp has settled around 30.4. Would be happy with anything additional this afternoon/evening but what I said I wanted was a band of heavy snow and I definitely got that so I’m good. 

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8 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

SEA at 32 now.  Nightmare commute coming for people who went to work today.

Precip will be ending around noon... I am guessing main roads in Seattle should be OK by the evening commute.

**REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED**

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Total disaster on the roads. Lake City Way had a bus jack-knifed blocking two lanes, and dozens of vehicles spinning their wheels trying to go uphill. I only made it home because I had tire chains. Roads turned from bare and wet to a sheet of ice in about 30 minutes. 

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2 minutes ago, Tyler Mode said:
1030 AM
Check out how shallow the cold air is, 28-31 at River level up to about 800', then in the 40s...

Screenshot 2022-12-20 at 10-34-07 NWS Weather & Hazards.png

Screenshot 2022-12-20 at 10-33-40 NWS Weather & Hazards.png

Talk about paper thin!

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, joelgombiner said:

Total disaster on the roads. Lake City Way had a bus jack-knifed blocking two lanes, and dozens of vehicles spinning their wheels trying to go uphill. I only made it home because I had tire chains. Roads turned from bare and wet to a sheet of ice in about 30 minutes. 

Wow!   That is crazy.    

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3 minutes ago, Blizzard777 said:

43* to  37* since the shift in winds with heavy precipitation 

.64 rain rate and wind out of the north at 16 mph 

 

Currently 34 with a daily accumulation of .71in. The euro was way off rain totals

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30 minutes ago, LowerGarfield said:

Can anyone post the latest Euro ice maps for Friday in Portland/Gorge? We're on the verge of canceling our plans.

I haven’t seen the maps, but I think you can safely cancel your Friday plans if they’re near PDX metro. It’s gonna be nasty.

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From what I can tell temps are running to 3 to 5 colder in areas where the north winds have taken over compared to ECMWF expectations.  Big big deal.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 45

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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