BLI snowman Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 wasn’t 2008 pretty dull?Yes, but at least it rained a bunch early in the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Some of the pictures out of Paradise are truly apocalyptic. That burned HOT. Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Mark Nelsen also called for a significant warm-up on the 21st of Dec 08 and that was way off. If this is what it's in reference to. Wasn't Rod Hill still with KATU back then? I remember watching Salesky's forecast on KGW for the 08 event, which apparently was not much of any event at all down here. People generally feel like 13-14 is more notable for the south valley so I hear.I do believe he was with Katu in 2008. How much did Monmouth get from the event? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 This has to be the dullest November here since 1976. At face value with how weak these systems are it is possible some places in the Willamette Valley don't even hit an inch this month... Always a chance we get a couple big systems at the end of the month that drop 3-4" of rain in a few days, but that seems extremely unlikely. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Already down to 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Uhhhh....Phil? 2 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Already down to 29 Low level cold is impressive this evening, but very shallow. It is the warmest night in about a week up here. 39 currently. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Bonner Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 So...a pool of cold air (Fake Cold) kept The Dalles below 40 degrees for 2 days in a row, in the 2nd week of November. Pretty dang early in the season. But that raises the inevitable question: What's the latest in the season we've pulled off the same feat? I don't think I ever remember anything similar to this in the 2nd half of February, at least not without REAL cold air in the upper pattern. About the closest thing I could find in the records was a dry day with a low of 36 and high of 39, on 02/21/2009. I was living in Eugene at the time. That may well be one of the latest Fake Cold days ever to hit the Gorge and Columbia Basin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Nina Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Low level cold is impressive this evening, but very shallow. It is the warmest night in about a week up here. 39 currently.Freezing rain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 So...a pool of cold air (Fake Cold) kept The Dalles below 40 degrees for 2 days in a row, in the 2nd week of November. Pretty dang early in the season. But that raises the inevitable question: What's the latest in the season we've pulled off the same feat? I don't think I ever remember anything similar to this in the 2nd half of February, at least not without REAL cold air in the upper pattern. About the closest thing I could find in the records was a dry day with a low of 36 and high of 39, on 02/21/2009. I was living in Eugene at the time. That may well be one of the latest Fake Cold days ever to hit the Gorge and Columbia Basin. 2/25/1993. No recorded precip at TDS and 28/13. Late February and the first couple days of March were something else in 1993... https://climate.usu.edu/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USW00024219&year=1993&month=2&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0 https://climate.usu.edu/reports/e15daily.php?stn=USW00024219&year=1993&month=3&unit=EN&network=direct:ghcn&sidebar=0 Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian guy Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Heaven on Earth! Currently in Maui right now and can confirm the weather is beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 So Silver Falls September stats came out and they had their first freeze on September 23rd, which is about right at the historical average and by far the earliest in the last decade. I think we hit 34 here that morning, so we had to wait until last week for our first freeze. Good to see they recorded one so early though. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Currently in Maui right now and can confirm the weather is beautiful.But have you visited Baffin Island? 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 But have you visited Baffin Island?Baffin Island > Maui. No debate. End of discussion. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Uhhhh....Phil? 1 Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 I do believe he was with Katu in 2008. How much did Monmouth get from the event?I actually lived in Willamina in the west valley and we had all the action from that one. Foot of snow, inch of freezing rain, another foot of snow in top of that. Pretty sure Monmouth was similar in that 18 inch range being in the cold air dam. Snow line was between there and Corvallis. The south valley only had rain and didn't notice much of anything special with the whole event. Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerWoodsLibido Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Quote Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats: Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024) Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024) Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024) Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024) Total snowfall: 0.0" Total ice: 2.25” Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9") Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F) Last White Christmas: 1990 Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0 Personal Stats: Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F) Last White Christmas: 2008 Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0" Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4 Venmo GoFundMe "College Basketball vs Epilepsy": gf.me/u/zk3pj2 My Twitter @CBBjerseys4hope 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dome Buster Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Newport is always a great landfall for pdx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just need to get that 945 low to the north of Astoria and that hight a bit closer to the coast. I will get to work on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 50 and still dry here... was expecting it to be wet this morning. I see dewpoints around the area are still in the 30s so it looks like the existing dry air mass won the battle last night. SEA has SW14 now so the dewpoints should be rising today. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 50 and still dry here... was expecting it to be wet this morning. I see dewpoints around the area are still in the 30s so it looks like the existing dry air mass won the battle last night. SEA has SW14 now so the dewpoints should be rising today. Believe it or not it is actually raining here and not up there. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Little breezy this morning. No real rain yet. Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Believe it or not it is actually raining here and not up there. I don't think that is too unusual once we get into the east wind season and the storm track shifts farther south. Our annual average is about the same... so there must be some point in the year when it rains more down there since it seems to rain way more often up here from April - October. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Now it is raining pretty good! Quote Mercer Island, 350 ft 2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21 2020-2021: 15.6" 2019-2020: ~10" 2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5" 2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 I don't think that is too unusual once we get into the east wind season and the storm track shifts farther south. Our annual average is about the same... so there must be some point in the year when it rains more down there since it seems to rain way more often up here from April - October. November-January each average around 11" with December the wettest at 11.5". February and March come in with about 9" on average. So we get about 2/3 of our precip in those 5 months. October-April accounts for about 85% of our precip. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaraptor Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Believe it or not it is actually raining here and not up there. You’re at the western edge of the Cascades, so I assume orographic effect would create more rainfall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Poured all night here. Probably over an inch. Edit. 1.14” in the gauge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 You’re at the western edge of the Cascades, so I assume orographic effect would create more rainfall? Yes, it was more of a commentary on the fact that the last 6+ months it has been very dry down here while Tim has received copious amounts of rain. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Yes, it was more of a commentary on the fact that the last 6+ months it has been very dry down here while Tim has received copious amounts of rain. Over 20 inches here from May through October this year. And another 5 inches so far this month. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Over 20 inches here from May through October this year. And another 5 inches so far this month.Where do you base your measurements? Always comes off like you are just eyeballing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Over 20 inches here from May through October this year. And another 5 inches so far this month.That’s all?? Given your commentary over the last several months, I figured you were setting rainfall records left and right. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawniganLake Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 This gfs run is looking much different next week. Energy is cutting off much farther west in the pacific. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Yes, it was more of a commentary on the fact that the last 6+ months it has been very dry down here while Tim has received copious amounts of rain. Copious, maybe, but certainly not more than normal. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Desert Mat! Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 We need some east wind density. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 6z ensembles definitely hint at significant high lat blocking in the long range. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Where do you base your measurements? Always comes off like you are just eyeballing it. I use the Snoqualmie Valley station as a guide... over 16 inches down there in the May-October period. Easily over 20 inches up here in that period. I also note when there is significantly more rain than the valley using the meso-net stations up here. 20 inches is understating the reality. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 6z ensembles definitely hint at significant high lat blocking in the long range. gfs-ens_z500a_namer_59.pngHa. One of the more classic -NAM patterns you’ll see. Some pretty bizarre stuff is also happening in the tropics right now. The Pacific Hadley Cell has narrowed substantially, and now resembles a pre-1998 type structure. The EPAC ITCZ hasn’t been centered this far south since 1998. Not sure what to make of it yet. The QBO/MQI is definitely playing a role. But it’s definitely not something we’ve seen very often in the 21st century. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 That’s all?? Given your commentary over the last several months, I figured you were setting rainfall records left and right. All of my commentary has been about how much closer to normal it has been around here compared to the crippling drought in Oregon. Not that it has been record-setting wet... not even close. But it has been a little wetter than normal up here in 2018 which is the polar opposite of Oregon. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 This gfs run is looking much different next week. Energy is cutting off much farther west in the pacific.Backdoor action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 All of my commentary has been about how much closer to normal it has been around here compared to the crippling drought in Oregon. Not that it has been record-setting wet... not even close. But it has been a little wetter than normal up here in 2018 which is the polar opposite of Oregon. Weren’t we just talking about May to October? Why switch it to January mid discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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