February 2024 Weather in the PNW

[Phil]

9 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Very favorable changes on the GFS with that trough.  Looks more Graphcasty.

The operational GFS is probably out to lunch w/ how it creates a pseudo cutoff/trough from essentially nothing. Does that sort of thing every late winter/spring, for what reasons I don’t know.

[RentonHill]

2 minutes ago, Phil said:

The operational GFS is probably out to lunch w/ how it creates a pseudo cutoff/trough from essentially nothing. Does that sort of thing every late winter/spring, for what reasons I don’t know.

Is that a clipper on the GEM?

[Phil]

1 minute ago, RentonHill said:

Is that a clipper on the GEM?

The one at 120hrs?

[MossMan]

3 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

Is that a clipper on the GEM?

 

[DareDuck]

About .5” tonight in Bend. Season total 23” now. Average is about 30” so this winter won’t be too far below average despite the warmth. 

[RentonHill]

5 minutes ago, Phil said:

The one at 120hrs?

Nah 200

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Good to see Bend score!

[DareDuck]

6 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Good to see Bend score!

It’s been a different route this year. Only 2.5” behind this time last year but I doubt I get another 18”. 36 days with measurable snow that totaled 42” last year. This year I have 7 days that have totaled 23”. 

[Doinko]

2 minutes ago, DareDuck said:

It’s been a different route this year. Only 2.5” behind this time last year but I doubt I get another 18”. 36 days with measurable snow that totaled 42” last year. This year I have 7 days that have totaled 23”. 

How cold did you get this winter and last winter?

[DareDuck]

12 minutes ago, Doinko said:

How cold did you get this winter and last winter?

This winter was -5 on 1/13, last winter was -1 on 1/30. 

[Slushy Inch]

47 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

The models are sure struggling with the pattern evolution next week.  Some interesting possibilities showing up.

Idk I feel like operational runs have been baiting us for some time now. Gem was a step back.

[Skagit Weather]

4 hours ago, Rubus Leucodermis said:

Have seen midsummer frost in the high Cascades a few times when camping there.

Saw it get into the mid-30s in August when camped along the old Blewett Pass highway not far from Liberty.

Looks like it has frozen every single day of the year at Paradise save August 5th and August 8th when the record lows are 33F. Not too bad. And in an average year it freezes at least once every month except August when the average coldest temperature of the month is only 33F.

[Slushy Inch]

Gefs was a notch better 

[Phishy Wx]

3 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah.   Great view and beach but will never stay here again.   And not to get political but Hawaii needs to get it's act together post COVID.    Literally every beach for 25 miles past Honolulu is now elaborate homeless encampments.   Massive structures out of pallets and tarps.   Beaches are basically not accessible unless you are in protected resort areas.   It's a shame.   Piles of garbage everywhere.   Totally unsafe and destroying natural beauty.   It's Seattle and Portland times 1,000.

homeless people in Hawaii need to live somewhere too

[Cascadia_Wx]

Getting some clearing and cooling this evening. Down to 37 so far, new low for the day!

[TT-SEA]

15 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

homeless people in Hawaii need to live somewhere too

Yep.   So no rules or laws on the beaches or in parks... everyone else must follow the rules though.   Saw a guy literally sh*tting on the walkway between the beach and the highway tonight.    Assume that is not a problem.   Go ahead and try it yourself.   25 miles of makeshift shelters.  And the massive piles of garbage and waste between the tent/fort structures... assume that is fine as well.    I should just throw our garbage over the balcony.  The reality is they let this go during the pandemic and can't reel it back in now.    Now its too easy.   Just go build a massive pallet fort right in the middle of a public beach and park.   Are there building code rules in place for their protection and safety like the people across the highway in actual homes have to follow?    This is not a good way for a society operate... it just isn't and I don't care what side of the political aisle you are on.    Its downright sad.

[Slushy Inch]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yep.   So no rules or laws on the beaches or in parks... everyone else must follow the rules though.   Saw a guy literally sh*tting on the walkway between the beach and the highway tonight.  25 miles of makeshift shelters.    Assume that is not a problem.   Go ahead and try it yourself.   And the massive piles of garbage and waste between the tent/fort structures... assume that is fine as well.    I should just throw our garbage over the balcony.  The reality is they let this go during the pandemic and can't reel it back in now.    Now its too easy.   Just go build a massive pallet fort right in the middle of a public beach and park.   Are there building code rules in place for their protection and safety like the people across the highway in actual homes have to follow?    This is not a good way for a society operate... it just isn't and I don't care what side of the political aisle you are on.    Its downright sad.

The tragedy is people living like that.

[TT-SEA]

Just now, Slushy Inch said:

The tragedy is people living like that.

Yep.   It was never this bad.   It really feels like lots of people decided to come to Hawaii during the pandemic and try living "off the grid" by taking over every public beach and park along the ocean because no one was going to stop them and the weather is always perfect.   Hawaii had it hands full with COVID but now they have another big problem.

[Slushy Inch]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yep.   It was never this bad.   It really feels like lots of people decided to come to Hawaii during the pandemic and try living "off the grid" by taking over every public beach and park along the ocean because no one was going to stop them and the weather is always perfect.   Hawaii had it hands full with COVID but now they have another big problem.

They get free pet cats

[Dan the Weatherman]

41 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Yep.   So no rules or laws on the beaches or in parks... everyone else must follow the rules though.   Saw a guy literally sh*tting on the walkway between the beach and the highway tonight.    Assume that is not a problem.   Go ahead and try it yourself.   25 miles of makeshift shelters.  And the massive piles of garbage and waste between the tent/fort structures... assume that is fine as well.    I should just throw our garbage over the balcony.  The reality is they let this go during the pandemic and can't reel it back in now.    Now its too easy.   Just go build a massive pallet fort right in the middle of a public beach and park.   Are there building code rules in place for their protection and safety like the people across the highway in actual homes have to follow?    This is not a good way for a society operate... it just isn't and I don't care what side of the political aisle you are on.    Its downright sad.

I wonder if some of the recent homeless are those lost their homes during the Lahaina Fire by any chance?

Edited February 8 by Dan the Weatherman

[Phil]

00z ECMWF extrapolated forward would see a huge SSW during the last week of Feb.

[Phil]

1 hour ago, Slushy Inch said:

Idk I feel like operational runs have been baiting us for some time now. Gem was a step back.

Mostly just the GFS.

Keep in mind we’re approaching the time of year where the GFS will do absolutely anything to dig a ULL/trough into the GOA then close it off. It will sell its soul if that is what’s required to trap a ULL there.

[TT-SEA]

5 minutes ago, Dan the Weatherman said:

Where are all these homeless people coming from all of a sudden? Are they the ones who lost their homes during the Lahaina Fire by any chance?

Wrong island.   And Maui was really bad last year as well when we were there...same thing on beaches and in parks and that was before the fires.   I bet most of these people came from the mainland during the pandemic to take advantage of the situation.   Its living off the grid run amok.  

[Phil]

4 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Yeah.   Great view and beach but will never stay here again.   And not to get political but Hawaii needs to get its act together post COVID.    Literally every beach for 25 miles past Honolulu is now elaborate homeless encampments.   Massive structures out of pallets and tarps.   Beaches are basically not accessible unless you are in protected resort areas.   It's a shame.   Piles of garbage everywhere.   Totally unsafe and destroying natural beauty.   It's Seattle and Portland times 1,000.

Should’ve hit up Isle of Palms instead.

[TT-SEA]

4 minutes ago, Phil said:

Should’ve hit up Isle of Palms instead.

Not warm enough there yet!    We will be there in April again though.   April seems to be one of the best months to visit there.

[Phil]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Not warm enough there yet!    We will be there in April again though.   April seems to be one of the best months to visit there.

April-June is probably ideal for your kind of trip. Not humid yet, but lots of warm, sunny days.

[Meatyorologist]

Crazy. Clear upward trend but an all time Jan low smacked right in the middle of it. Some stations in central Montana broke their old records by 10F. That state has been on fire (for lack of a better term) this century.

[snow_wizard]

Another night that could have been cold ruined by cloud cover.

Nothing worse than being in a cold trough and not being able to get below normal temps...except on the highs.

[TT-SEA]

26 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Another night that could have been cold ruined by cloud cover.

Nothing worse than being in a cold trough and not being able to get below normal temps...except on the highs.

There are so many things worse than that.   

[ShawniganLake]

40 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

Another night that could have been cold ruined by cloud cover.

Nothing worse than being in a cold trough and not being able to get below normal temps...except on the highs.

 

[Tyler Mode]

Managed to drop to 31 around midnight, so scored two freezing temps. 

[RentonHill]

7 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Wrong island.   And Maui was really bad last year as well when we were there...same thing on beaches and in parks and that was before the fires.   I bet most of these people came from the mainland during the pandemic to take advantage of the situation.   Its living off the grid run amok.  

Weird, we were in Maui last summer before the fires and didn’t see anything like you are describing. And we went to a bunch of public beaches with lots of little kids in tow! 

[TT-SEA]

46 minutes ago, RentonHill said:

Weird, we were in Maui last summer before the fires and didn’t see anything like you are describing. And we went to a bunch of public beaches with lots of little kids in tow! 

It wasn't nearly as bad as what we have seen in Oahu... but the drive between the aquarium and the resort areas north of Lahaina was about 20 miles of camps set up between the highway and the beach at this time last year.   From Lahaina northward it wasn't an issue though.   I read that west Oahu is the worst area in the state for this situation so my perception is probably skewed right now.   We have driven all the way around the Big Island multiple times and public beaches are parks were pristine all the way around except for a few spots right in Kona.   But this side of Oahu is not good in terms of public land along the water.  And it's such a naturally beautiful area.   The geography and shoreline on this side of the island are truly incredible. 

[TT-SEA]

5 hours ago, ShawniganLake said:

 

It has definitely felt like it since about the second week of December.  

[Phishy Wx]

8 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Yep.   So no rules or laws on the beaches or in parks... everyone else must follow the rules though.   Saw a guy literally sh*tting on the walkway between the beach and the highway tonight.    Assume that is not a problem.   Go ahead and try it yourself.   25 miles of makeshift shelters.  And the massive piles of garbage and waste between the tent/fort structures... assume that is fine as well.    I should just throw our garbage over the balcony.  The reality is they let this go during the pandemic and can't reel it back in now.    Now its too easy.   Just go build a massive pallet fort right in the middle of a public beach and park.   Are there building code rules in place for their protection and safety like the people across the highway in actual homes have to follow?    This is not a good way for a society operate... it just isn't and I don't care what side of the political aisle you are on.    Its downright sad.

so where is he supposed to go to the bathroom?  businesses often keep their doors to bathrooms locked in big cities.  why don't you contribute some of your $$$ to help the homeless, go volunteer at a soup kitchen or shelter.  they're not the problem, our 'system' is the problem.  If you're not helping find solutions you're just part of the capitalistic problem

[TacomaWx]

3 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

so where is he supposed to go to the bathroom?  businesses often keep their doors to bathrooms locked in big cities.  why don't you contribute some of your $$$ to help the homeless, go volunteer at a soup kitchen or shelter.  they're not the problem, our 'system' is the problem.  If you're not helping find solutions you're just part of the capitalistic problem

This has nothing to do with the weather in the PNW. 

[Phishy Wx]

3 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

This has nothing to do with the weather in the PNW. 

I didn't bring up the topic, just defending the undefended.  I'm done

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Take it to the POLITE politics thread guys.

[Phishy Wx]

8 hours ago, TT-SEA said:

Not warm enough there yet!    We will be there in April again though.   April seems to be one of the best months to visit there.

how many vacations do you take a year?  have you ever looked in the mirror and gained any sense of self-awareness?

[Cascadia_Wx]

10 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

so where is he supposed to go to the bathroom?  businesses often keep their doors to bathrooms locked in big cities.  why don't you contribute some of your $$$ to help the homeless, go volunteer at a soup kitchen or shelter.  they're not the problem, our 'system' is the problem.  If you're not helping find solutions you're just part of the capitalistic problem

He’s fine. At least he didn’t poke fun at cliche vacation spots like that f*cking monster, Jesse.

Everyone take a shot!