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PNW December 2022, winter might be coming; but mostly canceled.


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3 minutes ago, T-Town said:

Probably a good night to reflect on the many other wondrous gifts the Lord bestows on us as residents of Tacoma. 

We’re at 68.7 inches of snow since December 2016. 3.4” this week. If nothing happens tonight that would be just fine. Has been a very snowy few years. 

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3 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

We’re at 68.7 inches of snow since December 2016. 3.4” this week. If nothing happens tonight that would be just fine. Has been a very snowy few years. 

It's remarkable how similar that total is to mine considering how far apart we live. I'm at 64" since December 2016.

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Home Wx Station Stats (Since January 2008):

Max Temp: 96.3F (2009)   Min Temp: 2.0F (2008)   Max Wind Gust: 45 mph (2018, 2021)   Wettest Day: 2.34 (11/4/22)   Avg Yearly Precip: 37"   10yr Avg Snow: 8.0"

Snowfall Totals

'08-09: 30" | '09-10: 0.5" | '10-11: 21" | '11-12: 9.5" | '12-13: 0.2" | '13-14: 6.2" | '14-15: 0.0" | '15-16: 0.25"| '16-17: 8.0" | '17-18: 0.9"| '18-19: 11.5" | '19-20: 11" | '20-21: 10.5" | '21-22: 21.75" | '22-23: 10.0" 

2023-24: 7.0" (1/17: 3", 1/18: 1.5", 2/26: 0.5", 3/4: 2.0", Flakes: 1/11, 1/16)

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Light rain here in the valley.  Do not expect any changeover.

Still longing for that arctic blast that rattles the roof and house as it roars through.

Not sure we will see one of those again.

Always seems to be some reason the cold can't push down the sound.

Had some marginal slop snow.  Was this a warning shot?

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5 minutes ago, SouthHillFrosty said:

You will. I already turned to snow north of Federal Way

That is pretty encouraging.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, Hour364Please said:

Light rain here in the valley.  Do not expect any changeover.

Still longing for that arctic blast that rattles the roof and house as it roars through.

Not sure we will see one of those again.

Always seems to be some reason the cold can't push down the sound.

Had some marginal slop snow.  Was this a warning shot?

What about last December?  We had a high in the mid 20s with that one.

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Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

The always stingy ICON shows snow across all of King County tonight on its 00Z run... 

 

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I would love to be wrong about my area.  There might be something slightly different about this situation that will allow snow instead of ZR here.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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1 minute ago, Ice_is_Everywhere said:

So a question: why does dp matter on nights like these? Genuinely curious.

Evaporative cooling as the precip falls through dry air.

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Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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12 minutes ago, TacomaWx said:

We’re at 68.7 inches of snow since December 2016. 3.4” this week. If nothing happens tonight that would be just fine. Has been a very snowy few years. 

I lived in the area for most of 15 years, and Tacoma saw less than 60" over that period.

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Good luck everyone, and have fun tonight!

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Home Weather Station Stats for 2023

High - Satans Bunghole

Lowest High - Not sure

Low - I don't have the data

Sub 40 highs - Not quite

Sub-freezing highs - Try again

Lows below 25 - You're joking

Lows below 20 - No

2023 Snowfall - LOL

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1 minute ago, Ice_is_Everywhere said:

So a question: why does dp matter on nights like these? Genuinely curious.

Evaporative cooling. Same way sweat cools your body, raindrops falling through non-saturated air partially evaporate and cool the surrounding air. The greater the offset between air temperature and dewpoint, the more the temperature will drop as precipitation starts. 

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6 minutes ago, Hour364Please said:

Light rain here in the valley.  Do not expect any changeover.

Still longing for that arctic blast that rattles the roof and house as it roars through.

Not sure we will see one of those again.

Always seems to be some reason the cold can't push down the sound.

Had some marginal slop snow.  Was this a warning shot?

Hi, Jon.

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Temp here is up to 39 now.  Going up!  Dew Point at 32.  I never expected any snow here tonight until the Euro showed some but I'm thinking it's very unlikely. Crazy weather.  I do think Justin is right about my being vulnerable to the SE winds.  I've seen it happen many times.

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5 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

I lived in the area for most of 15 years, and Tacoma saw less than 60" over that period.

There is no doubt the winters in this area bottomed out in the 1999 through 2006 period.  Since then it has gotten way better.

Death To Warm Anomalies!

 

Winter 2023-24 stats

 

Total Snowfall = 1.0"

Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1

Total Hail = 0.0

Total Ice = 0.2

Coldest Low = 13

Lows 32 or below = 50

Highs 32 or below = 3

Lows 20 or below = 3

Highs 40 or below = 9

 

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6 minutes ago, joelgombiner said:

Evaporative cooling. Same way sweat cools your body, raindrops falling through non-saturated air partially evaporate and cool the surrounding air. The greater the offset between air temperature and dewpoint, the more the temperature will drop as precipitation starts. 

Thanks for explaining this.  I wondered too!

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Weather.com is saying 3 inches for me tonight surprisingly. Don’t think I’ll get that much but based on some of the recent model trends it looks like I’ll probably get like an inch and I’d be happy with that.

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2024 Warm Season Stats

Number of 80+ days - 2

Number of 85+ days - 2 (Warmest so far - 86)

Number of 90+ days - 0

Number of 95+ days - 0

Number of 60+ lows - 0

 

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Just went out for the first time since the snow hit - drove out to have dinner with my parents. I was pretty amazed at how we have virtually nothing on the ground here in lower-elevataion Redmond, but a quick drive up to the Bel-Red area, and they've still got solid coverage everywhere but the roads.

No precip yet here...

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Mark Nelsen posted an update on the east wind and snow chances Sunday AM. He isn't too impressed. 

 

"We’ve got about 36 hours of gusty east wind ahead; the usual spots exposed to that cold Gorge wind (east metro and West Hills) will feel the brunt of the gusts. Expect those gusts up to 40 mph at times tomorrow afternoon through early Sunday morning. The wind dies down after that time."

"Late Saturday night and Sunday that weather system will send a band of showers north all the way up into SW Washington. As it passes by we should be cold enough for a rain/snow mix Sunday morning and midday. That’s IF the precipitation actually shows up. Some models are just giving us sprinkles/flurries. We’ll be watching this closely the next 24 hours; but typically these setups have not produced “real” sticking snow in the lowlands, and we won’t be all that cold Sunday morning."

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11 minutes ago, snow_wizard said:

There is no doubt the winters in this area bottomed out in the 1999 through 2006 period.  Since then it has gotten way better.

Yeah. The '90s weren't exactly amazing for Tacoma either, though. I was in the area for most of 1990-2006. I was a very young lad in '90, and that's when my weather obsession started.

Best guess on Tacoma's general accumulations for that period (since we don't have any real records).

1990-91: 4"

1992-3: 4"

1993-4: 1"

1994-95: 5"

1995-96: 6"

1996-97: 12"

1997-98: 3"

1998-99: 2"

2000-01: 3"

2001-02: 6"

2003-04: 10"

2005-06: 5"

 

Grand total: 61" (so slightly more than I estimated above)

Not a single winter anywhere near as snowy as 2008-09 or 2018-19.

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