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King 5 is already walking back the snow and now only calling for a dusting at best most places.

 

They claimed to be showing the UW high resolution model but it showed literally nothing for the lowlands... Which even the WRF this morning showed some snow for areas near Olympia. Not sure what's going on there.

 

They should have just stuck to their original guns. UW high res is out to lunch imo. 

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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They should have just stuck to their original guns. UW high res is out to lunch imo. 

 

I always side with the ECMWF over the WRF when they are different.  

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Now no precip falling. Just above freezing.

Springfield, Oregon regular season 2023-24 Stats:

  • Coldest high: 25F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Coldest low: 20F (Jan 14, 2024)
  • Days with below freezing temps: 24 (Most recent: Mar 8, 2024)
  • Days with sub-40F highs: 4 (Most recent: Jan 16, 2024)
  • Total snowfall: 0.0"
  • Total ice: 2.25”
  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021 (1.9")
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 15, 2024 (27F)
  • Last White Christmas: 1990
  • Significant wind events (gusts 45+): 0

Personal Stats:

  • Last accumulating snowfall on roads: Dec 27, 2021
  • Last sub-freezing high: Jan 16, 2024 (32F)
  • Last White Christmas: 2008
  • Total snowfall since joining TheWeatherForums: 42.0"
  • Sub-freezing highs since joining TheWeatherForums: 4

 

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PDX officially reporting -SN as of 9:53am.

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Cold Season 2023/24:

Total snowfall: 26"

Highest daily snowfall: 5"

Deepest snow depth: 12"

Coldest daily high: -20ºF

Coldest daily low: -42ºF

Number of subzero days: 5

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https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KMTBOZEM152#history

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Total snow through tomorrow afternoon...

 

ecmwf_tsnow_washington_7.png

 

Let's just go with the EURO and call it good - ignore the news stations.  :D

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Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Let's just go with the EURO and call it good - ignore the news stations.  :D

 

I never pay attention to the news of the NWS forecast.  They are just looking at the same models that we are seeing... its not like they have some magical hidden data.    I don't care how they interpret the models.    I can do that on my own.  

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I never pay attention to the news of the NWS forecast.  They are just looking at the same models that we are seeing... its not like they have some magical hidden data.    I don't care how they interpret the models.    I can do that on my own.  

 

Yeah I've been doing that for quite some time. Made some good calls where the forecast busted high or low on precip., even temperatures.

 

Hoping the convergence zone can kick in, in the morning.

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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The initial wave of moisture may hit the Puget Sound Region at the warmest part of the day.

 

Joy to the World.

 

Evaporational cooling will be working with us. Not too worried about temperatures. Certainly not worried about ground temps. 

Mercer Island, 350 ft

2021-2022: 11.6", 02/21

2020-2021: 15.6"

2019-2020: ~10"

2018-2019 winter snowfall total: 29.5"

2017-2018: 9.0", 2016-2017: 14.0"

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Unfortunate the long range models look so mediocre right now. 

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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As always hour 384 holds promise...

 

gfs_mslp_pcpn_frzn_nwus_52.png

Snowfall                                  Precip

2022-23: 95.0"                      2022-23: 17.39"

2021-22: 52.6"                    2021-22: 91.46" 

2020-21: 12.0"                    2020-21: 71.59"

2019-20: 23.5"                   2019-20: 58.54"

2018-19: 63.5"                   2018-19: 66.33"

2017-18: 30.3"                   2017-18: 59.83"

2016-17: 49.2"                   2016-17: 97.58"

2015-16: 11.75"                 2015-16: 68.67"

2014-15: 3.5"
2013-14: 11.75"                  2013-14: 62.30
2012-13: 16.75"                 2012-13: 78.45  

2011-12: 98.5"                   2011-12: 92.67"

It's always sunny at Winters Hill! 
Fighting the good fight against weather evil.

 

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So...you are changing some of the details/timing of your forecast. Jesse's read was not incorrect.

Depends how you frame it. I just offered a clarification.

 

Nothing to debate here. :)

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