October 2023 Weather in the PNW

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

19 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I can't either. I don't know how people do it. My mortgage is about what a studio apartment rents for a month in Silverton ($1400 including insurance and property tax), and I know our prices are significantly lower than the Puget Sound region. 

I purchased my place in 2004 for 164K, 2.5 acres and very private. My Mortage is 1200 per month and it would sell for 800k on the market now. Just NUTS!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

With the price of everything else I don't even know how I would make it if I had a rent/mortgage around $3K a month. 

[Phishy Wx]

1 minute ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

With the price of everything else I don't even know how I would make it if I had a rent/mortgage around $3K a month. 

I can tell you no kids and dual income is the only way that works.  Any other situation and we'd probably be back east in some red state backwater.

[the_convergence_zone]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

I can tell you no kids and dual income is the only way that works.  Any other situation and we'd probably be back east in some red state backwater.

Our mortgage is around $4K and with current housing prices/rates it would be closer to $6,500. 

Dual income, one kid. Never seriously considered a second kid, otherwise I would be paying nearly $5K/month in daycare costs! 

I know someone who bought a house in Seattle as a grad student back in 2010ish. His income was around 25K/year at that time as a researcher for the university. He lives in Tacoma now and rents it out. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

2 minutes ago, Phishy Wx said:

I can tell you no kids and dual income is the only way that works.  Any other situation and we'd probably be back east in some red state backwater.

That's what I would imagine. With as many kids as I have, there is just no way. I recognize how fortunate I was to buy at the right time AND manage to hang on to the home through my divorce 8 years ago. 

[Cold Snap]

Had a low of 32 this morning. First freeze of the cold season.

[MR.SNOWMIZER]

10 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

With the price of everything else I don't even know how I would make it if I had a rent/mortgage around $3K a month. 

I have friends with 3500 -4000k a month mortgage. No way i could swing that and still have a new truck.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, the_convergence_zone said:

Our mortgage is around $4K and with current housing prices/rates it would be closer to $6,500. 

Dual income, one kid. Never seriously considered a second kid, otherwise I would be paying nearly $5K/month in daycare costs! 

I know someone who bought a house in Seattle as a grad student back in 2010ish. His income was around 25K/year at that time as a researcher for the university. He lives in Tacoma now and rents it out. 

We are fortunate in that my in laws will provide child care pretty much whenever at no cost. They are pretty chill too, so its no trouble. My wife kind of works, but doesn't really have any interest in work or a career. The only reason she really works is to get out of the house and because her employer offers great health insurance which covers all of us. Which saves quite a bit of money. 

[Cold Snap]

Looks like it should get down into the 20s these next three nights IMBY.

[Chewbacca Defense]

42 minutes ago, GHweatherChris said:

Christ, our rent is $1500 and does not include water/garbage which is spendy and its on a tiny property.

There was a FB feed up here in one of the Bellingham community pages last week where someone moving to the area was trying to get a sense of the rental market.  I was shocked to see someone not too far from me paying about $3,500 per month for a 2,200 sq ft house.  I don't think that included any utilities.  Granted, its in a "nice" neighborhood, but it doesn't have a mountain, bay or lake view.  A lot of home rentals were in the $2,500 to $2,800 range, and a studio apartment goes for at least $1,500-$1,800 in town.....just crazy! 

We pay $1,800 for our mortgage, insurance and property taxes for a 2,800 sq ft house.  Granted, we got in when the market was very low (2013) and we refinanced to a 2.24% interest rate in 2022, but still....

The other half of the "crazy" equation, we bought this house for $330k in 2013, and it was valued at $880k at one point last year.  It has settled to a more "pedestrian" $680k this year.

[Rubus Leucodermis]

1 hour ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

I can't either. I don't know how people do it. My mortgage is about what a studio apartment rents for a month in Silverton ($1400 including insurance and property tax), and I know our prices are significantly lower than the Puget Sound region. 

A studio in Silverton, OR rents for $1400/mo? That’s insane!

Almost as bad as what one rents for in Vancouver these days (CAD $2450 = USD $1775).

[the_convergence_zone]

It's crazy how prices in the smaller cities/towns have caught up to the big cities. 

There's a lot to like about Bellingham but not for those prices!!!

 

 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

3 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

It's crazy how prices in the smaller cities/towns have caught up to the big cities. 

There's a lot to like about Bellingham but not for those prices!!!

I am truly shocked that studios there now rent for almost as much as they do here, once one applies currency conversions.

I would pay CAD $1000/mo more in rent for my current place if I hadn’t first signed a lease during the pandemic and since benefited from rent control (and Vancouver wasn’t exactly a low-cost city in 2021). I hear what rentals go for these days and I can’t believe it.

[TT-SEA]

Another beautiful day in Seattle.   And the Sound is very calm this afternoon. 

[Iceresistance]

#NoRidgeNovember?

[Rubus Leucodermis]

6 minutes ago, Iceresistance said:

#NoRidgeNovember?

#NoSnowNovember is much more likely than that.

[Gradient Keeper]

5 hours ago, Port Angeles Foothiller said:

Olympics look great.

Wow. Just wow! If that's your view.... I can barely think of the right words to use.

18z GFS in 35 minutes

[Gradient Keeper]

3 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Starting to look like a HARD ENSO crash next summer. I know Phil says we will probably go 8 years before we see another Nina, but it might be closer to 8 months. 

The biggest collapse of a strong Nino in history. MBG Money Back Guarantee!

00z ECMWF in 10 hours 44 minutes

[Gradient Keeper]

12z GFS Re-cap. 10 Day GIFs: 500mb Height Anomaly, 850mb Temperatures, 1000-500mb Thickness/Precip

[the_convergence_zone]

5 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

The biggest collapse of a strong Nino in history. MBG Money Back Guarantee!

00z ECMWF in 10 hours 44 minutes

One of the smartest guys I worked with in grad school did his dissertation on ENSO/climate change (in addition to like 10 other topics he worked on). His research suggested that -ENSO might become more common than +ENSO as the planet warms. I can't remember what the mechanism was...

Officially I think it's still an open research question, but I'm sure this crowd would hope that his research is correct. 

[Gradient Keeper]

12z GFS 10 Day Rainfall, Snowfall totals

[Gradient Keeper]

12z ECMWF Re-cap. 10 Day GIFs: 500mb Height Anomaly, 850mb Temperatures, 1000-500mb Thickness/Precip

[Gradient Keeper]

12z ECMWF 10 Day Rainfall, Snowfall totals

[the_convergence_zone]

12 minutes ago, Gradient Keeper said:

12z ECMWF Re-cap. 10 Day GIFs: 500mb Height Anomaly, 850mb Temperatures, 1000-500mb Thickness/Precip

Wow, that's a classic fall Pacific storm train setup at the end of that. All aboard! 

[Requiem]

1 hour ago, Iceresistance said:

#NoRidgeNovember?

Last time u said this we had a crazy ridgy November so I implore you not to speak such a jinx to fruition

[Frontal Snowsquall]

On 10/25/2023 at 3:58 PM, HuskyMaestro said:

Astoria, Seaside, and Cannon Beach are true gems to go to. Last went there maybe 3 years ago with the fam and I fully intend on coming back, this time by myself. 

 

On 10/25/2023 at 4:21 PM, Tyler Mode said:

Funny, I've driven to the coast and back, Rainier and back in a day.  Just have to get out.  After my stroke, just a reminder that you never know.

Meanwhile, pouring rain here at home and down to 43, my low for the day.  0.91" yesterday and up to 0.63" for today.

I love going out to the Oregon Coast for day trips, either Tillamook Bay, Cannon Beach or Seaside. About half of them are just spontaneous trips where I just need to get away. If the Puget Sound was a little closer I’d definitely go up there more often. It’s so beautiful with all the different unique Waterways you guys have up there. It almost feels like your near the ocean which I love.

[MWG]

Low of 41F and currently 54F. Freezing warning for tomorrow and expecting 33F. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Speaking of round trip in a day. I watched a Dateline once where a lady drove from Florida to New Jersey and back to kill her mother in law. 

[TT-SEA]

24 and snowing in Bismarck ND and might not go above freezing until late next week.   Winter is not wasting any time.

[MossMan]

49/33 on the day. 
Currently 42. 

[Rubus Leucodermis]

Wall-to-wall sunshine with a high of 51.6°F today.

[Phishy Wx]

3 hours ago, Gradient Keeper said:

12z ECMWF 10 Day Rainfall, Snowfall totals

well that's a missed opportunity.  an 1" of precip and little to no snow.  guess it's going to be mid to late November before we have our first measurable snow this year.  I kinda figured it would be late.  average first here is like 11/13 or so

[Phishy Wx]

we've had off and on snow showers all day and temps in the mid to upper 30s.  no accumulations obviously

[Phishy Wx]

48 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Speaking of round trip in a day. I watched a Dateline once where a lady drove from Florida to New Jersey and back to kill her mother in law. 

all in an honest days work

 

I kid, I kid

[Phishy Wx]

2 hours ago, Requiem said:

Last time u said this we had a crazy ridgy November so I implore you not to speak such a jinx to fruition

that out of region poster does this on purpose to screw us.  I blocked whoever it is

[Deweydog]

Boootiful evening!

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Oh looks like it could get wet. 

[Timmy Supercell]

8 hours ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Starting to look like a HARD ENSO crash next summer. I know Phil says we will probably go 8 years before we see another Nina, but it might be closer to 8 months. 

It's like neutrals don't happen anymore

[MossMan]

36. 

[Kolk1604]

39 Here