November 2023 Weather in the PNW

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Timmy said:

Could be a couple years before the 540 line makes it south of Seattle still.

RUFF

[ShawniganLake]

Not much snow in Whistler yet

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, ShawniganLake said:

Not much snow in Whistler yet

Devastating. 

Edited November 21, 2023 by SilverFallsAndrew

[Phishy Wx]

Bleak

[Deweydog]

30 years ago RIGHT NOW things were about to turn quite chilly!

[Christensen87]

RIP to that windstorm the models had been showing to strike us today. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Deweydog said:

30 years ago RIGHT NOW things were about to turn quite chilly!

Underrated event.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Any word on the EURO?

[Phishy Wx]

Just now, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Any word on the EURO?

its at the club

[TigerWoodsLibido]

3 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Any word on the EURO?

Looks like shitt sadly.

[TT-SEA]

12Z EPS basically unchanged.  

[TT-SEA]

Lovely day out here.

[RentonHill]

Much lower again. Baby steps 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

CFS is a disaster. 

[Frontal Snowsquall]

4 hours ago, ShawniganLake said:

It seems it occasionally can lead to snow down south when the inversion gets deep enough near the gorge

 

4 hours ago, MossMan said:

Think we had some fake cold snow in Moses Lake as well that lead to some light snow when my mom still lived there. Not much of a chance here at my place however. 

 

4 hours ago, Phishy Wx said:

we get flurries and/or light snow over here out of fog/inversions on occasion

I’ve experienced light snow/flurries too with fog inversions in the winter. It’s pretty cool to see and you can get some accumulations.

[Front Ranger]

3 hours ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

Maybe true for where most of the country’s population is located. It’s a western phenomenon, as it is largely driven by terrain. 

Yes, and much of the West is mountainous. It's western lowlands thing.

That's a minority of the country, no matter how you look at it.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

Some rain arrives this evening but Thanksgiving weekend is looking gorgeous. The east winds are gonna be blowing. Should get below freezing too again.  

[Front Ranger]

42 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Underrated event.

I remember frozen puddles in the sand of the OR coast.

[ShawniganLake]

12 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

CFS is a disaster. 

It’s always darkest before the dawn

[Front Ranger]

22 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

12Z EPS basically unchanged.  

Quite the craptastic pattern everywhere to start December. Thankfully, time for that to improve. 

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, ShawniganLake said:

It’s always darkest before the dawn

It would be much worse if the CFS was showing something good.   The CFS being a "disaster" is actually great news for cold weather fans.  

[Phishy Wx]

would be a good time to take a vacay or do that nagging home improvement project our wives keep nagging us about

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Dang, SLE hit 68 in December 1993... Yikes. And still ended the month with a -0.3 departure. 

[Front Ranger]

4 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

It would be much worse if the CFS was showing something good.   The CFS being a "disaster" is actually great news for cold weather fans.  

Thank you Dr. Phil.

[Cascadia_Wx]

15 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Yes, and much of the West is mountainous. It's western lowlands thing.

That's a minority of the country, no matter how you look at it.

Definitely not just confined to the western lowlands. There are many intermontane and high mountain basins/valleys across all of western North America that experience the varied affects of terrain driven inversions.

[Front Ranger]

Just now, Cascadia_Wx said:

Definitely not just confined to the western lowlands. There are many intermontane and high mountain basins/valleys across all of western North America that experience the varied affects of terrain driven inversions.

Really seems like you're intent on nitpicking here.

My original statement was that it's not a common phenomenon most places. That's true. Not sure what you're aiming to prove here?

[Cascadia_Wx]

Just now, Front Ranger said:

Really seems like you're intent on nitpicking here.

My original statement was that it's not a common phenomenon most places. That's true. Not sure what you're aiming to prove here?

I’m not arguing about anything. I was just adding some context to your original statement.

Then you’ve got marine inversions which are their own animal. But thanks to oceanic currents/SSTs and, also coastal terrain to a degree, those are most commonly found on the west coast of North America as well. Outside of perhaps New England and points north. 

[MossMan]

1 hour ago, Deweydog said:

30 years ago RIGHT NOW things were about to turn quite chilly!

My IPhone picture archives do not go back that far.

[Dan the Weatherman]

1 hour ago, ShawniganLake said:

Not much snow in Whistler yet

Do they have snowmaking equipment to make snow in case of late starts like this?

[Front Ranger]

4 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

I’m not arguing about anything. I was just adding some context to your original statement.

Then you’ve got marine inversions which are their own animal. But thanks to oceanic currents/SSTs and, also coastal terrain to a degree, those are most commonly found on the west coast of North America as well. Outside of perhaps New England and points north. 

Ok. I'm aware where it happens. Like I said in my original point, the majority of the country (population wise or geographically) doesn't experience that. 

Thus the idea of "fake cold" seems foreign to most. Very few cities east of SLC see fake cold inversions except on rare occasions. 

 

[TT-SEA]

7 minutes ago, Dan the Weatherman said:

Do they have snowmaking equipment to make snow in case of late starts like this?

We have skied there... they do have some snow machines for the lower portion of the slopes but not for most of the ski area.    

[Cascadia_Wx]

4 minutes ago, Front Ranger said:

Ok. I'm aware where it happens. Like I said in my original point, the majority of the country (population wise or geographically) doesn't experience that. 

Thus the idea of "fake cold" seems foreign to most. Very few cities east of SLC see fake cold inversions except on rare occasions. 

 

Sure. I just find it all really interesting. Not everything needs to be a debate.

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, TT-SEA said:

We have skied there... they do have some snow machines for the lower portion of the slopes but not for most of the ski area.    

If I recall they really STRUGGLED in the run up to the 2010 WINTER GAMES. Something about an El Nino or something. 

[Sunriver Snow Zone]

Sure this extended dry pattern will suck, we all love exciting weather and this is the opposite of that, but atleast there's some benefits. Great weather for thanksgiving travelers, great weather for putting up Christmas decorations, great weather for getting a Christmas tree, and great hiking weather, and there will be widespread sun, atleast in the afternoons.

 

Many of us are just waiting for the weather to get exciting again, but for now we should enjoy this current weather pattern, if we had a few months of non-stop precip and clouds, I'm sure most of us would do a anything just to get a couple days of our upcoming weather. Maybe that's just me though.....

[Deweydog]

45 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

Dang, SLE hit 68 in December 1993... Yikes. And still ended the month with a -0.3 departure. 

Big FAKE COLD event at the end of the month.

[ShawniganLake]

7 minutes ago, SilverFallsAndrew said:

If I recall they really STRUGGLED in the run up to the 2010 WINTER GAMES. Something about an El Nino or something. 

Whistler probably ended up okay in 2010.  It was the freestyle events on the north shore of Vancouver that were in trouble.  I think they brought in snow from other places to make it work.  

[ShawniganLake]

20 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

We have skied there... they do have some snow machines for the lower portion of the slopes but not for most of the ski area.    

I think they also sometimes push snow down from the higher elevations if needed.  The base of whistler is pretty low elevation compared to a lot of ski resorts.  

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Just now, Deweydog said:

Big FAKE COLD event at the end of the month.

I'd say 2nd only to 2013 locally. Silverton had 5 sub-freezing highs with the fake cold EVENT. 

[SilverFallsAndrew]

Here is a crazy fake cold stat... It also demonstrates how pathetic SLE's climate really is. 

The 13 consecutive sub-40 highs at SLE during January 2013 is tied with December 2008 and January 1942 for the 4th longest streak in their 1892-present period of record. 

[Omegaraptor]

46 at CVO, 61 at EUG. Pretty impressive difference for such a small distance.