January 2024 Weather in the PNW (Part II)

[Blizzard777]

56 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Running out of time!  Definitely north though.   

If memory serves me correctly I’ve seen these storm run into the cold airmass like this and slip south or fall apart at the last minute. When I look at the Satellite in motion it makes sense but what do I know .  Will be curious if the energy from this storm can plow through.  

 

[SimplySmoothWX]

Rain showers in Corvallis right now, even though nothings showing up on radar

[TacomaWx]

1 minute ago, MR.SNOWMIZER said:

To give you an idea how brutal 1990 was, there was 2 feet long ice hanging off power lines down there. 

Definitely going to head down to the waterfront today or tomorrow to check it out. Either way I’ve never seen something quite as potent as this airmass in my lifetime. 

[Gradient Keeper]

7 minutes ago, Olive1010 said:

Where's the arctic front now

From the north into PDX north of Division Street and just now pushing into Corbett from the east.

[Frontal Snowsquall]

Temps as of 11am. Should drop off pretty quickly soon.

 

[thickhog]

Need some advice. Have a bball tourney in Seaside this weekend. Organizers aren’t cancelling. Everyone is heading out there this afternoon. 1) Should conditions over the pass be ok? 2) Is there gonna be enough ZR at the coast to make travel around town impossible during the day tomorrow?

[T-Town]

Temp still dropping here. Down to 20.7. Pretty crazy.  

[BLI snowman]

1 minute ago, Phishy Wx said:

Ninos seem to be blockier and more 'potential' for arctic chill than NIna's?

Ninas have a higher floor and maybe a higher ceiling on a seasonal level, although 1968-69 kind of tramples that argument a little.

Otherwise, Ninos can still be very effective at producing regional subseasonal cold/snow patterns in the PNW. Just this century alone we've seen it in January 2007, December 2009, February 2019, and January 2024 (!). The notion that we have to be warm/splitty in a Nino is pretty lazy.

 

[Cascadia_Wx]

18 minutes ago, FroYoBro said:

Surprised to see Troutdale airport 5 degrees warmer than pdx right now.

The northern push of arctic air is beating the push through the Gorge at the moment. Im up in Salmon Creek right now and there’s a stiff north wind. The temp has fallen from 34 to 30 in the last half hour.

[Blizzard777]

6 minutes ago, Kayla said:

-22F at noon was not something I thought I was going to see with this airmass 2 days ago.

We kind of laughed at the numbers that were being spit out a couple weeks ago!! Lol and ouch 

[Prairiedog]

36 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

One of our residents was sitting completely still on the feeder this morning... the water was frozen but it sat there waiting.   I assume they are conserving energy.  

They feed about every 15 min.  This time of year in these conditions, without food, there will be a higher mortality rate.  It will be a rough go for them.

[TT-SEA]

Haven't cleared driveway because I figured it would melt like all other little snow events this week.  Not happening for some reason... might have to reconsider.       

Temp has not budged all day.   Sitting at 19. 

[Doinko]

Flurrying lightly

[TT-SEA]

1 minute ago, Blizzard777 said:

We kind of laughed at the numbers that were being spit out a couple weeks ago!! Lol and ouch 

For the record... I didn't say anything about 850mb temp potential.  I leave that to the experts!

[Prairiedog]

26 minutes ago, the_convergence_zone said:

Unfortunately the hummer turf wars are pretty brutal. The one that owns my feeder is ferociously defending it against several others. I'm sure that some of them won't make it. Their numbers were noticeably lower after the Dec 2021 cold snap. 

I put feeders on opposite sides of the house to slow the turf wars down. 

[Timmy]

1 minute ago, Prairiedog said:

I put feeders on opposite sides of the house to slow the turf wars down. 

Leave your garage open, they like to go in those

[MikeInEverett]

Love being able to see the snow covered roofs in Lake Stevens from here:

[iFred]

2 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

For the record... I didn't say anything about 850mb temp potential.  I leave that to the experts!

Too bad Sean Nyberg wont come back to talk about the 850mb temp potential.

[Gradient Keeper]

4 minutes ago, Cascadia_Wx said:

The northern push of arctic air is beating the push through the Gorge at the moment. Im up in Salmon Creek right now and there’s a stiff north wind. The temp has fallen from 34 to 30 in the last half hour.

Yeah, the northern push had more momentum than I expected. It's just now nearing Troutdale from the east.

[Meatyorologist]

5 minutes ago, BLI snowman said:

Ninas have a higher floor and maybe a higher ceiling on a seasonal level, although 1968-69 kind of tramples that argument a little.

Otherwise, Ninos can still be very effective at producing regional subseasonal cold/snow patterns in the PNW. Just this century alone we've seen it in January 2007, December 2009, February 2019, and January 2024 (!). The notion that we have to be warm/splitty in a Nino is pretty lazy.

 

I think getting 2014-15 and 2015-16 back to back did a number on the Niño reputation. Both were highly prototypical for the PNW.

[iFred]

@MillCreekMike and @MossMan - I have some shirts from the meet up if you two (and anyone else in the SnoCo area) want to do a coffee meetup later today.

[Norwood]

7 minutes ago, thickhog said:

Need some advice. Have a bball tourney in Seaside this weekend. Organizers aren’t cancelling. Everyone is heading out there this afternoon. 1) Should conditions over the pass be ok? 2) Is there gonna be enough ZR at the coast to make travel around town impossible during the day tomorrow?

Take your Tauntaun

[The Blob]

[Meatyorologist]

KSEA down to 19F right now! Holy crap!

[the_convergence_zone]

4 minutes ago, Prairiedog said:

I put feeders on opposite sides of the house to slow the turf wars down. 

Since I'm in Seattle, there are probably 20 hummingbird feeders just on my block, but I'm guessing most of them are frozen today. 

[Meatyorologist]

1 minute ago, iFred said:

@MillCreekMike and @MossMan - I have some shirts from the meet up if you two (and anyone else in the SnoCo area) want to do a coffee meetup later today.

If I didn't have other plans today I would love to meet Randy and Mike too!

[TigerWoodsLibido]

12 minutes ago, SimplySmoothWX said:

Rain showers in Corvallis right now, even though nothings showing up on radar

Yeah...radar down here is nonexistent. Unfortunately the northern portion of "The Empty West" is pretty much a forgotten part of the country in terms of weather.

[jcmcgaffey]

8 minutes ago, TT-SEA said:

Haven't cleared driveway because I figured it would melt like all other little snow events this week.  Not happening for some reason... might have to reconsider.       

Temp has not budged all day.   Sitting at 19. 

Ya didn’t hit our lowest temp so far until around 10-10:30 when we hit 14 now it bumped up 15 which is crazy for 11:30. 

[MossMan]

1 hour ago, Winterdog said:

No snow except for what’s on Jordan Ridge,  had a low of 12, currently 14.

I beat you this morning at 10.8! 

[SnarkyGoblin]

I've never been cold in my DT Seattle office at work.  I will typically turn DOWN the heat here as I run hot.

Not today...hands are pretty COLD, even being inside.

[Prairiedog]

I'm 15 miles south of Troutdale and in a completely different world climate-wise during these events.  Been at 37f all morning.  Dropped 3 degrees about 5am but it's been constant since.  I'm more protected from the east winds too so I'll be the last to see things change in this part of the valley.  I'm 10 miles SE from 205/Division St and also in a drastically different world from there.    Incredible how a few miles changes things.  Mostly it's topography. 

[Perturbed Member]

...AREAS OF BLACK ICE COULD IMPACT THE FRIDAY EVENING COMMUTE DUE
TO A FLASH FREEZE...

At 11 AM PST Friday, temperatures were rapidly dropping across
southwest Washington and far northwest Oregon, including the
Portland/Vancouver metro, Columbia River Gorge, north Oregon
coast, and north Oregon Coast Range. In fact, many locations
within the aforementioned areas were already below freezing at 11
AM Friday. An arctic cold front dropping from the north, combined
with cold easterly winds developing in the Columbia River Gorge,
will result in rapidly cooling temperatures through Friday
afternoon and evening. By approximately 3 PM PST Friday,
temperatures should be in the 20s. Given the wet road conditions
leading up to the flash freeze, areas of black ice are a concern.
As such, slippery road conditions could impact the Friday evening
commute, prior to the arrival of a winter storm set to impact
southwest Washington and northwest Oregon Friday night through
Saturday night. Sidewalks and other surface may also become icy.

[FroYoBro]

All the way up to 39 degrees here.

[TigerWoodsLibido]

3 minutes ago, Prairiedog said:

I'm 15 miles south of Troutdale and in a completely different world climate-wise during these events.  Been at 37f all morning.  Dropped 3 degrees about 5am but it's been constant since.  I'm more protected from the east winds too so I'll be the last to see things change in this part of the valley.  I'm 10 miles SE from 205/Division St and also in a drastically different world from there.    Incredible how a few miles changes things.  Mostly it's topography. 

Hold my beer...

[Doinko]

2 minutes ago, Perturbed Member said:

...AREAS OF BLACK ICE COULD IMPACT THE FRIDAY EVENING COMMUTE DUE
TO A FLASH FREEZE...

At 11 AM PST Friday, temperatures were rapidly dropping across
southwest Washington and far northwest Oregon, including the
Portland/Vancouver metro, Columbia River Gorge, north Oregon
coast, and north Oregon Coast Range. In fact, many locations
within the aforementioned areas were already below freezing at 11
AM Friday. An arctic cold front dropping from the north, combined
with cold easterly winds developing in the Columbia River Gorge,
will result in rapidly cooling temperatures through Friday
afternoon and evening. By approximately 3 PM PST Friday,
temperatures should be in the 20s. Given the wet road conditions
leading up to the flash freeze, areas of black ice are a concern.
As such, slippery road conditions could impact the Friday evening
commute, prior to the arrival of a winter storm set to impact
southwest Washington and northwest Oregon Friday night through
Saturday night. Sidewalks and other surface may also become icy.

Down to 33 with the front from the north with some light flurries. This is really impressive. Hoping for some snow this evening in the air at least

[Kayla]

14 minutes ago, Blizzard777 said:

We kind of laughed at the numbers that were being spit out a couple weeks ago!! Lol and ouch 

The funny thing is none of the numbers were ever all that extreme for here. It was just for a while there in the beginning that the models thought the PACNW was Montana.

[FroYoBro]

There is the cold E wind at Troutdale. Temp and dew point dropping there now. Really cool to see the arctic air hit us from two different directions at almost exactly the same time. 

[Timmy]

weird day.  My grass is trying to freeze up at mid day.  Random snowflakes falling.  Road crews are dumping gravel on bare roads…. Ive never understood that, why would you ever put gravel on a dry road? It just gets kicked off the side

[The Blob]

34 and snow.

[SimplySmoothWX]

9 minutes ago, TigerWoodsLibido said:

Yeah...radar down here is nonexistent. Unfortunately the northern portion of "The Empty West" is pretty much a forgotten part of the country in terms of weather.

ah, totally forgot about the radar hole here. I'm used to being in the Portland metro where what you see is what you get