SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The one thing the average non weather nut in the Willamette valley will remember 5 years from now about weather in 2014 is the snow storm. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Snoqualmie Falls sure is raging right now. Looks seriously impressive. http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/2015/01/05/skyking-flies-over-snoqualmie-falls/21309377/ Good lord. Someone needs to ride a barrel over that thing. Tim, you're close. 1 Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 That winter/spring would have been tremendous up here. Late February through late April had tons of snow.Same here, we drove up in late March that year with a bunch of muddin rigs near where I live now but a little higher in elevation, there was about 2 inches at 1000' and near 40" of fresh snow at 1800' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yeah, but I am more speaking about here. The coast is a little bit more prepared for high rainfall totals and I am almost sure that 8" falling in Skagit Valley would lead to even worse flooding. 2" on the coast would have little effect as that happens at least a couple times of year. Of course then you have the Smethport, PA deluge of July 18, 1942 with 30.70" in 4.5 hours which is truly unimaginable. I've read accounts of that. Truly incredible event. Apparently the rain was coming down in sheets like you would see in a waterfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Now what do we do? Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Now what do we do? We live. And wait. Spring is coming! Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Now what do we do?Wait until Febuary! 1 Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Ranger Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 We live. And wait. Spring is coming! The next couple days look quite spring-like. Dry, too. Just pretend it's late March. Also. Go Hawks. Quote A forum for the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Hmmmm.... this is the location where the world's record rainfall event was measured. http://s23.postimg.org/8f9k4z2gb/image.jpg Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx_statman Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Looking at April 2011, that was also the coldest April on record up here as well. Only April 2008 is even close, a monthly mean of 39.9 in April 2011. Spring 2011 was ridiculous. A real throwback to the old days, when we stayed consistently chilly for months. Its a rare thing today. I dug up an old post I made on Western in June 2011: Warmest day of the year through May 31st, combined PDX/Downtown data back to 1874: 59.5 - 2011 (74/45 on May 20)60.5 - 189961.0 - 197762.0 - 199162.0 - 196262.0 - 195062.5 - 191763.5 - 189364.0 - 196064.0 - 187764.5 - 201064.5 - 1965 First time in 137 years of continous observation that Portland failed to have a 60 degree average day through May 31st! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLI snowman Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Try last February where I had 2" of snow and 1.5" of 33F rain while one mile north there was 12" of snow. That one hurt. You could literally look up the road (no elevation change) and see the snowfall rapidly increase. Of course I was lucky to get anything because another mile south there was nothing. Reversal of February 23, 2011. Like a mirror image. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I looked up the stats for Sandpoint, Kalispell, and Missoula. I'd definitely take Sandpoint. All of them would be fine. Besides the lack of snow and cold in this climate the gloominess has really gotten to me the last few years. I guess it's just so many years of it finally catching up with me. All of the cities you have listed there have cold / snowy winters, lots of clear and cold days with snow on the ground, much better weather in the spring, and just enough summer thunderstorms to make it interesting. I have really come to realize this climate isn't nearly as "pleasant" as many people try to pretend it is. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I doubt the normal person would notice much of a difference. Besides, 1955 was a cold year, and 2014 was warm. Not even worth commenting on. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The models are incredibly boring right now. Another wasted January. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverIslandSouth Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The mega ridging that was showing up for next week is looking pretty watered down on the 0Z ECMWF/GFS; anything that pops up seems destined to be pretty short lived. There were some comments about the models locking on to ridging but being prone to bust in Arctic outbreaks. The thing is most people will notice a busted Arctic outbreak forecast, but there have been numerous LR winter forecasts showing a mega ridge right over us with 580dm heights only to end up with a mini-ridge or zonal flow and 560dm heights. A 20dm difference in heights can be the difference between a snowy blast, and a couple chilly days followed by drizzle and dying frontal systems in a trough. If the same sentiment were given to next week's ridging there would be cause for panic right now. http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2015010600/ecmwf_z500_mslp_namer_11.png 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow_wizard Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 On average, not by much. It was still a mild, maritime climate. The differences seem big to you as a PNW weather nut, but from a climate perspective, they were rather small. And comparing 2014 to 1955? How about 2008 to 1958? I simply don't agree. Things happened back then that you just don't see now like widespread frost in July 1949, the much cooler summers that marked the last cold phase, and of course the much colder Januaries. Quote Death To Warm Anomalies! Winter 2023-24 stats Total Snowfall = 1.0" Day with 1" or more snow depth = 1 Total Hail = 0.0 Total Ice = 0.2 Coldest Low = 13 Lows 32 or below = 45 Highs 32 or below = 3 Lows 20 or below = 3 Highs 40 or below = 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Good news is the upcoming +EPO regimen won't last as long as the last one..another tropical forcing retrograde on the way. Late January SSW/PV implosion? That's all we need to get the dominoes crashing.. Quote Live Weather Cam: https://www.youtube.com/live/KxlIo8-KVpc?si=xKLCFYWbZieAfyh6 PWS Wunderground https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KMDBETHE62 PWS CWOP/NOAA: https://www.weather.gov/wrh/timeseries?site=F3819&hours=72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mann Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Wonder. .. what the more expanded version of this above would look like. .. Less truncated, generally. With some amount of more specific reference where considering timeframe. Along with even perhaps as to just what "dominoes", are being looked at more specific. (Perhaps. ?) One can only imagine. — Maybe the related "broad-game" might work as a general study aide more introductory. (I'm thinking.) "All" things considered, of course being the prognostication's obvious scope. Lending some clue as to its context. One day. Quote --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The models are incredibly boring right now. Another wasted January. Yeah, but you knew this January would be dull for a while now. We just need things to come together for early Feb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Looks like it will be a rather quick turnaround from warm rain event back to inversion down here. 38 with low clouds and fog this morning. Could see lows near freezing the next few days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Appears the worst is over for the Washington Cascades. The damage has been done, but at least the snowpack is still here at the lower elevations. I'm sure Oregon is much worse. The temp at 6,800 feet on Crystal mountain is currently 48 degrees. Pretty lame for the first week of January... Thankfully 850mb temps will be dropping this week. Two terrible ski seasons in a row. Hopeful that the rest of January going into Februray will be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Zzzzzz Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverFallsAndrew Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Appears the worst is over for the Washington Cascades. The damage has been done, but at least the snowpack is still here at the lower elevations. I'm sure Oregon is much worse. The temp at 6,800 feet on Crystal mountain is currently 48 degrees. Pretty lame for the first week of January... Thankfully 850mb temps will be dropping this week. Two terrible ski seasons in a row. Hopeful that the rest of January going into Februray will be better.There wasn't much rain down here so it probably didn't hurt our pathetic snow pack to much. Quote Snowfall Precip 2022-23: 95.0" 2022-23: 17.39" 2021-22: 52.6" 2021-22: 91.46" 2020-21: 12.0" 2020-21: 71.59" 2019-20: 23.5" 2019-20: 58.54" 2018-19: 63.5" 2018-19: 66.33" 2017-18: 30.3" 2017-18: 59.83" 2016-17: 49.2" 2016-17: 97.58" 2015-16: 11.75" 2015-16: 68.67" 2014-15: 3.5" 2013-14: 11.75" 2013-14: 62.30 2012-13: 16.75" 2012-13: 78.45 2011-12: 98.5" 2011-12: 92.67" It's always sunny at Winters Hill! Fighting the good fight against weather evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowman5678 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Driving home from Redmond to Carnation tonight and Tolt Hill Rd was closed, Fall City - Carnation Rd was closed, HWY up to Snoqualmie/Snoqualmie Falls was closed, valley Rd was closed. Carnation is almost cut off if not for higher road through Duvall. Finally went on a higher road through the valley and, although it was dark so I couldn't see how deep, there was standing water in places I've never seen before. Flooding homes I've never seen flooded before. I guess the morning will tell if its really as bad as it looked. Yeah I know, worst flooding i've seen since 2011. Sadly I haven't been able to take any pics during the daytime. Pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Prairiedog Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The next couple days look quite spring-like. Dry, too. Just pretend it's late March. Also. Go Hawks.Pitchers and catchers report to camp in 6 weeks! Go M's Helps ease the pain of coming out of a winter with no snow (or probably no snow) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weather101 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 We can dream about snow! Just like I can dream about a cowboys and Seahawks rematch! Quote 2013/2014 Winter season Coldest Low: 14 F December 7thColdest High: 27.3 F December 7thColdest Wind chill: 5 F December 7thLowest Dew Point: -2.2 F December 6thDays below freezing: 5Total Snowfall: 11 inchesMost snowfall in a Day: 8 inchesDays With Snow: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MossMan Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Pitchers and catchers report to camp in 6 weeks! Go M's Helps ease the pain of coming out of a winter with no snow (or probably no snow)Sounds like they might be contenders this year!And it will snow in February! Maybe even the last week of Jan! Quote Elevation 580’ Location a few miles east of I-5 on the Snohomish Co side of the Snohomish/Skagit border. I love snow/cold AND sun/warmth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiedog Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sounds like they might be contenders this year! And it will snow in February! Maybe even the last week of Jan!Snow and an ALCS in the same year? Holy Cow! Heck, snow and just making the playoffs in the same year would be something and then throw in another SB run by the Hawks. Snow might be the hardest of the three to get this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard mann Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 -More incidental, more general climate focused and where looking at the Far West more as a whole, ...In line with the "best and worst" idea that I'd pointed to earlier this colder season of a "Flat Mix" of the two main Analog years that I'd suggested as being relatable to this one more current, … — 1976-7, more drought / post drought focused. .And 1996-7 more "Nino" focused. .. At this point and where looking more at the "worst" side of this idea, [and] with colder air's current more slowed progress and pace more eastward along with and if otherwise at the same time, movement together with more general expansion steadily more south daily @, .. (it would appear, that.) all of the decent moisture generated through the tropics and subtropics more recently, has "booked" to the north. — Of course having saturated much of Western WA. .And if, while not having been pressed more eastward, to more inland and over parts more south. .And with the more "best" side of this potential's being hopefully set to show itself sooner as opposed to later. http://www.fvalk.com/images/Day image/GOES-10-2100B.jpghttp://www.fvalk.com/images/Day image/GOES-10-1800.jpg Precipitation.WA state/current 1d observed v.150106 12zWA state/ 7d observed v.150106 12z Quote --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Today marks the start of PDX's seven month ascent to 82/59! 2 Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 12z Euro shows a seasonably cool pattern in the mid range. Looks like lengthy period of offshore flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 12z Euro shows a seasonably cool pattern in the mid range. Looks like lengthy period of offshore flow.Seems like we've had more offshore flow than onshore flow so far this Winter. Pretty astounding we haven't had any snow with that. Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bainbridgekid Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 12z GFS gives Seattle a total of 0.05" of rain in the next 10 days. The Euro looks more active day 7-10 so I doubt the extremely dry GFS verifies, but it's still pretty amazing how these dry streaks keep popping up this Winter. 2 Quote Everett Snowfall (510 feet elevation) Snow since February 2019: 91" 2023-24: 6" 2022-23: 17.5" 2021-22: 17.75" 2020-21: 14.5” 2019-20: 10.5" 2018-19: 24.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-SEA Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 12z GFS gives Seattle a total of 0.05" of rain in the next 10 days. The Euro looks more active day 7-10 so I doubt the extremely dry GFS verifies, but it's still pretty amazing how these dry streaks keep popping up this Winter.Last winter was the same... the definition of a tolerable winter to me is dry breaks. Quote **REPORTED CONDITIONS AND ANOMALIES ARE NOT MEANT TO IMPLY ANYTHING ON A REGIONAL LEVEL UNLESS SPECIFICALLY STATED** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deweydog Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Visibility today has been consistent with what you'd expect during +SN. Maybe the 2008 redux and then some call wasn't quite as goofyballs after all? Quote My preferences can beat up your preferences’ dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighlandExperience Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 12z GFS gives Seattle a total of 0.05" of rain in the next 10 days. The Euro looks more active day 7-10 so I doubt the extremely dry GFS verifies, but it's still pretty amazing how these dry streaks keep popping up this Winter. A more active pattern would be nice. Currently sitting near 41 degrees at Camp Muir at 10K in the middle of January. WTF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuffradio Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 A more active pattern would be nice. Currently sitting near 41 degrees at Camp Muir at 10K in the middle of January. WTF.You can't get more active than 4" of rain in less than 48 hours. If we keep the jet stream pointed at California, I would be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 A more active pattern would be nice. Currently sitting near 41 degrees at Camp Muir at 10K in the middle of January. WTF.Snow shoeing anyone? Took a trip up today and it was pleasant. #PNW Winters rock Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvssnow_spokane Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Visibility today has been consistent with what you'd expect during +SN. Maybe the 2008 redux and then some call wasn't quite as goofyballs after all?Agreed. Good analysis! The best of the year. Quote My Weather Station https://tempestwx.com/station/61434 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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